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Santana pitches first no-hitter in Mets' history


NEW YORK (AP) — For more than 50 years, the New York Mets chased that elusive no-hitter. Johan Santana finally finished the job.
Santana pitched the first no-hitter in team history, helped by an umpire's missed call and an outstanding catch in left field in an 8-0 victory over the St. Louis Cardinals on Friday night.
After a string of close calls over the last five decades, Santana went all the way in the Mets' 8,020th game.
``Finally, the first one,'' he said. ``That is the greatest feeling ever.''
He needed a couple of key assists to pull it off.
Carlos Beltran, back at Citi Field for the first time since the Mets traded him last July, hit a line drive over third base in the sixth inning that hit the foul line and should have been called fair. But third base umpire Adrian Johnson ruled it foul and the no-hitter was intact - even though a replay clearly showed a mark where the ball landed on the chalk line.
``I saw the ball hitting outside the line, just foul,'' Johnson told a pool reporter.
The umpire acknowledged that he saw the replay afterward but declined to comment.
``It was in front of his face, and he called it foul. I thought it was a fair ball,'' Beltran said. ``At the end of the day, one hit wasn't going to make a difference in the ballgame. We needed to score more runs and we didn't do that.''
Hometown kid Mike Baxter then made a tremendous catch in left field to rob Yadier Molina of extra bases in the seventh. Baxter crashed into the wall, injured his shoulder and left the game.
Making his 11th start since missing last season following shoulder surgery, Santana (3-2) threw a career-high 134 pitches in his second consecutive shutout. Relying on a sneaky fastball and the baffling changeup that's always been his signature, he struck out eight and walked five with wind gusting up to 30 mph.
``Amazing,'' Santana said after tossing the majors' third no-hitter this year. ``Coming into this season I was just hoping to come back and stay healthy and help this team, and now I am in this situation in the greatest city for baseball.''
Before the game, Mets manager Terry Collins said he planned to limit Santana to 110-115 pitches all season.
``I just couldn't take him out,'' a choked-up Collins said afterward.
Born in 1962, the Mets have been built on pitching when they've fielded their best teams. But neither Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver nor Dwight Gooden could throw a no-hitter for the Mets - though all three are among the seven pitchers who tossed one after leaving the team.
Philip Humber is another one. He pitched a perfect game for the Chicago White Sox at Seattle on April 21, and Jered Weaver of the Los Angeles Angels no-hit Minnesota on May 2.
Following the game, Santana addressed his teammates in the clubhouse. He thanked them and said: ``Yeah, baby! Believe it!''
``I'm really happy for them,'' said Boston manager Bobby Valentine, who managed the Mets from 1996-2002. ``That's been an albatross over the pitching in that franchise forever, since '62. One of the best pitchers they've ever had threw it and that also gives credibility to it.''
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez congratulated Santana in a message on Twitter, calling him a ``golden left-hander'' and ``Giant Johan.''
``What pride! Long live Venezuela!'' Chavez said in the message.
Santana got a warm ovation as he headed out to the mound for the ninth inning, and the two-time Cy Young Award winner quickly retired Matt Holliday and Allen Craig on shallow fly balls as frenzied fans high-fived each other and captured video of it all on their cell phones.
With the crowd of 27,069 on its feet, World Series MVP David Freese went to a 3-2 count before his foul tip was caught by Josh Thole, just activated from the disabled list earlier in the day.
Santana pumped his left fist, slammed it into his glove and shouted as Thole showed the ball to plate umpire Gary Cederstrom and then went running out toward the mound.
``I don't think anybody expected that tonight. Everything came out perfect for him,'' Beltran said. ``It should mean a lot for him after battling last year with the injuries. ... I'm not happy about it, but at the same time he's a good man and I'm happy for him.''
The Mets rushed out of the dugout and mobbed Santana in a raucous dogpile as security guards tackled a fan who ran onto the field near home plate. Moments later, the pitcher raised his right arm and saluted the crowd, which was chanted his name from the eighth inning on. The big scoreboard in center flashed Santana's picture and read ``No-Han.''
``It was a crazy night - my fastball moving all over the place,'' Santana said. ``I don't think I've ever thrown a no-hitter in video games.''
The Cardinals, the top-hitting team in the NL this season, should have had a hit in the sixth.
Beltran, traded by the Mets to San Francisco last July after 6 1/2 rocky seasons in New York, led off with a low liner over third. Television replays showed the ball nicked the foul line just behind the bag on the dirt, taking a small chunk of chalk with it. But Johnson called it foul immediately and Beltran eventually grounded out.
``It was tough because it happened so quick. I wasn't able to see anything,'' Santana said. ``The umpire made his call and that was the end of it.''
But with the next batter at the plate, Cardinals third base coach Jose Oquendo twice got in Johnson's face for heated arguments - the two even appeared to bump each other. Rookie manager Mike Matheny also came out to protest, but nobody was ejected.
``It's not like there's going to be an asterisk by it. That's the way the game goes,'' Matheny said.
Almost exactly two years ago - on June 2, 2010 - Armando Galarraga lost a perfect game when first base umpire Jim Joyce admittedly blew a call that should've resulted in the final out. The miss in Detroit instead gave Cleveland's Jason Donald a single with two outs in the ninth.
Major League Baseball had considered expanding replay for this season to review fair-or-foul calls and trapped balls. The change required the approval of MLB and the unions representing the umpires and the players - when there was no agreement, extra replay was postponed until at least 2013.
Santana cruised from there into the seventh, when Molina hit a one-out drive to deep left. Baxter, who grew up rooting for the Mets only 10 minutes from where Citi Field stands, raced back and made a terrific catch before crashing full force into the fence.
Baxter stayed down on the warning track as Mets trainers, players and coaches rushed out to him. Santana crouched in the infield with a couple of teammates and then made a few warmup tosses to stay loose.
``When I saw him running back onto the warning track and he made that play, it was amazing. An outstanding play and he saved the game,'' said Santana, traded to the Mets by Minnesota before the 2008 season. ``All these guys, I want to thank them for what we accomplished.''
Baxter walked off the field under his own power, with trainer Ray Ramirez holding the outfielder's left arm because Baxter had no feeling in it. The Mets said Baxter has a bruised left shoulder and was having more tests.
``I'm glad I had a chance to be part of it. It's a great night for the Mets,'' Baxter said.
Lucas Duda hit a three-run homer off Adam Wainwright (4-6) and drove in four runs, tying a career high. Daniel Murphy added three RBIs.
The San Diego Padres, who started play in 1969, are now the only team without a no-hitter.
The Mets' seemingly endless pursuit had become something of a famous quest, with at least one website dedicated to counting off their total number of games without a no-hitter each day during the season. Radio announcer Howie Rose often did the same when the opposing team got its first hit.
The list of pitchers who have thrown no-hitters after leaving the Mets includes Ryan and Seaver, both Hall of Famers, plus Gooden, David Cone, Mike Scott, Hideo Nomo and Humber.
Ryan, in fact, pitched a record seven no-hitters. Now the president of the AL champion Texas Rangers, he's still aware of the Mets' no-hit history - or lack thereof.
``To me, it was phenomenal,'' he said through a team spokesman on the 37th anniversary of a no-hitter he threw for the Angels. ``If you look at the history of their organization and the type of pitching they had at times, plus the fact they had pitchers throw no-hitters with other clubs.''
Seaver came within two outs of a perfect game in 1969 and fell one out shy of a no-hitter in 1975, the previous time a Mets pitcher had made it into the ninth without yielding a hit.
NOTES: Santana's previous career high was 125 pitches. ... It was the eighth no-hitter pitched against St. Louis and the first since Fernando Valenzuela for the Los Angeles on June 29, 1990. ... Mets 3B David Wright said in a radio interview on WFAN that he won't talk to the team about a new contract until after the season because he doesn't want his situation to be a distraction for the team. Wright's salary is $15 million this season and New York holds a $16 million option for 2013, which gets voided if he is traded. After that, he can become a free agent. ... Replays showed Cardinals pinch-hitter Shane Robinson was hit on the hand by a pitch in the eighth. He started toward first, but Cederstrom called it a ball.
 
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Blowing Up Baseball`s Most Dangerous Stat: Saves

I posted this article in the wrong bseball forum so if you want to read it follow the link.

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...For-All-thread&p=618422&viewfull=1#post618422

The saves stat is misleading. A closer enters the game with the score 3-0 and his team wins 3-2 and he gets the save? Last year MLB writers were talking about giving Jose Vaverde the MVP or the Cy Young because he was 49 for 49 in saves. I watched several of those saves and I can tell you that he was damn lucky. This article talks about using "shut downs" and "melt downs" as a way to measure a relievers effectiveness. When a releiver enters the game statistics are used after every batter to determine if the reliever had increased or decreased the teams probability of winning the game. No longer could a Jose Vaverde come into a game and walk 2 and hit 2 others and get credited with a save. He would get a melt down because the team won in spite of the way he pitched.

Danial Bard was already doing so to gauge himself before he was made a starter. Give it a read.
 

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Hungry, the save stat is what it is. I doubt they will change the ruling for a save thats been in place for a long long time. Not saying I dont agree with you but the good ole boys network does not like to change rules too ofton. In saying that tho, I hear next year there is a change concerning the fake to third pickoff then to first move being outlawed, so who knows?
 

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The save stat is horrible. I think most of us agree that relievers are second rate pitchers compared to starters. If they were better pitchers they would be starters. I have lived through white knuckle save after white knuckle save with Jose Valverde. When I hear talk of him being a Cy Young or MVP I want to puke. If he could pitch a 1-2-3 9th inning 4 out of 5 games I could see this but he never does. Not this year or last. The problem is the save stat is so misleading. You insert your closer in the 9th when you are up by 3 runs or less. If the closer gives up several hits and walks and his team wins 3-2 he is credited with a save. This is a crock of shit. Why were the 3 outs in the 9th any more important than the 3 outs in the 8th or the 7th? Do those runs count any less?

In my opinion, Benoit was the man last night. Remember when Coke entered the game in the 7th and threw two pitches and gave up two hits. The set up man Benoit came in for Coke and got the side out. That was more critical than Valverde going in and blowing the save in the 9th. After two hits batsmen and a walk Valverde was one strike away with being credited with the save. Instead, on a 3-2 count he threw another pitch that wasn't even close and the game was tied. He blew the save and gets the win?

I would like to see more managers leave the script once in awhile. Relievers are not starters because they are not good enough. One of the problems is that they are inconsistent. If your middle reliever comes in and is lights out you consider leaving him in an extra inning. Leave the script once in awhile.

Remember the 84 Tigers when they played the Padres. Lopez (Sr. Smoke) was unhittable in the 8th and they had to put Willie Hernandez in to close. The Tigers won. Lopez gave the Tigers the best chance of winning. There was no reason to insert Hernandez. Lopez was on fire. This was a big controversy. Willie won the MVP that year and everyone thought he was lucky. Next year his luck ran out. I say the same thing for Valverde.

On the other hand there is no one that will call Verlander lucky.

The closer position is a hyped. The proposed Shut Down/Melt Down Stat would take care of these over hyped over paid journeymen wanna be 5th starters now making millions more then the other second rate pitchers in the bullpen. Read the article
 

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Red Sox ship struggling Daniel Bard to the minors

BOSTON -- The Boston Red Sox have optioned right-handed pitcher Daniel Bard to Triple-A Pawtucket.

Manager Bobby Valentine said Tuesday that the club felt Bard (5-6) needs to work on his mechanics back in the minors before he gets another shot at making the Red Sox rotation.

Bard lasted less than two innings in his start at Toronto on Sunday, when he allowed five runs on six walks and hit two batters. In 55 innings this season, Bard has an ERA of 5.24 with 34 strikeouts and 37 walks.

Valentine says he expects Bard to make a quick turnaround.

Valentine wasn't sure who will replace Bard in the rotation. The manager says Daisuke Matsusaki was scheduled to pitch three innings for Pawtucket on Tuesday and may be close to returning.

The Red Sox also removed outfielder Darnell McDonald from the 15-day disabled list Tuesday.

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=397707
 

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Yankees-Mets

One of my clients offered me an extra ticket he has for Yankees-Mets Friday night at Yankee Stadium. This will be my first Yankees-Mets game. The pitching matchup will be Johan Santana, in the 1st game since hurling a no hitter which was the 1st in Mets history, against Hideki Kuroda. Both teams are playing well and fighting for their respective divisions which are the 2 best divisions in baseball. This should be fun!
 

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I went to Yanks Mets before at the Old Yankee Stad. Great atmosphere and should be a great game,,,,enjoy!
One of my clients offered me an extra ticket he has for Yankees-Mets Friday night at Yankee Stadium. This will be my first Yankees-Mets game. The pitching matchup will be Johan Santana, in the 1st game since hurling a no hitter which was the 1st in Mets history, against Hideki Kuroda. Both teams are playing well and fighting for their respective divisions which are the 2 best divisions in baseball. This should be fun!
 

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What a game you got to attend Beaver! Another no hitter by Santana tonight, as in there was not many pitches the Bombers could not hit! Kuroda? what a performance! GO YANKEES!
 

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Iggy,

The game last night was awesome. I went with a client, a friend of mine, and a friend of the client. All of these are people I hang with socially. We drove to Yankee Stadium and parked at a lot right next to the I-87 on ramp. We smoked cigars in the parking lot and then headed to a diner that was 3 blocks from Yankee Stadium, a place my client had been to many times and apparently he loves the corned beef reuben sandwich there as well as the Steak Sandwich. The diner did a good job with very quick service as they know all their customers are going to the game and they need to get people in and out. We were served and ate and out of there within 45 minutes, this despite waiting 10 minutes for a table and every table in the place being taken. I can't remember the name of the place but if you are facing the front of Yankee Stadium you walk to your right about 2-3 blocks and it is right after a check cashing business.

The game was a complete sellout. Our seats were in section 213 row 4. Amazing seats (I think they are $110 face but I got them free from the client). Strangely there were a number of Mets fans sitting in this section wearing Mets jerseys, and my client took some good natured verbal jabs at them during the game. In our seats we were not too high, not too low, great perspective of the action, the only negative was a slight blind spot on balls hit in the extreme right field corner. Since we ate before the game all I got at the game was a 24 ounce bottle of water which cost me $5.00. Heinekens were going for $9.50. My client and his buddy each ordered a mixed drink from Tommy Bahamas - it was some kind of vodka drink in what looked like a 6 or 8 ounce cup - $13 each. My buddy got a carvel ice cream in one of those plastic mini baseball caps, and for this treat he paid $5.50. Which actually seemed like the best "bargain" of all these food/beverage transactions.

The game itself was great with back-to-back-to-back homers by Cano, Swish and Jones (who also went back to back to back last year), all off Santana and a great pitching performance by Kuroda. Kuroda took a liner off his foot in the 7th and you guys would not believe how high that ball caromed up in the air before A-Rod caught it on the fly off Kuroda's foot, the ball never having touched the ground. As Kuroda walked off the field I could see he was in some serious pain. Teix and A-Rod both went over to him to see if he was OK. Girardi took him out with Kuroda having pitched 7 innings of 1 hit shutout ball. I later heard X Rays were negative and apparently Kuroda will be OK although I imagine sore and swollen for a few days at least.

Although Santana was given two extra days of rest after his 130 pitch no hitter, he was not sharp after the 1st inning and I think he was tired. The 2 homers Cano hit appeared to be on fat changeups down the middle, which Cano was sitting on. Santana was being worked into deep counts and he had to be relieved after the 5th inning with the Mets down 6-0, Santana having been raked with 4 homers.

After the game we went to a strip club in Connecticut and I did not get home until 2 a.m. Anyways it was a great time.
 
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Glad you had a blast, it was one of the best games of the year for a Yanks fan to go see. Thanks for the "trip report" , going down to a game or 2 this summer hopefully.
 

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Red Sox fans set sell-out streak record at 745

Congrats to the Red Sox and Red Sox Fans Everywhere!!!

At long last, Red Sox fans now can lay claim to the record for most consecutive home sell-outs. Sunday's game against the Nationals was the Red Sox' 745th consecutive sell-out at Fenway Park, a record in North American major pro sports.

SELLOUT STREAK: The Red Sox now officially own the longest regular-season sellout streak in major professional sports history. The 37,467 in attendance Sunday at Fenway Park extended the streak to 745 consecutive games, surpassing the previous record of 744, which was held by the Portland Trailblazers of the NBA from 1977 to 1995. Boston's streak began on May 15, 2003.

 

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Congratulations to the New York Yankees for their four game winning streak which places them in first place for the first time this year and is a major accomplishment considering the major injuries that this team has, way to go Jeter and the boys.:thumb:
 

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Congratulations to the New York Yankees for their four game winning streak which places them in first place for the first time this year and is a major accomplishment considering the major injuries that this team has, way to go Jeter and the boys.:thumb:

The Yankees have been without 3 of their 4 best relief pitchers and their starting left fielder most of the year. The reason why the team has not skipped a beat are the moves Cashman made in the offseason: signing Raul Ibanez who has given the Yankees more than I expected quite frankly; resigning Andruw Jones who has been giving the Yankees what he gave them last year, and is a big reason why the Yankees are an AL best 12-7 against lefties.

Last, but not least the bullpen has been filled out and fortified with cheap no names who have gotten the job done. Two years ago it was Alfredo Aceves, last year it was Cory Wade, this year you can add the names Cody Eppley and Clay Rapada to that mix of blue collar relievers who perform well above and beyond their contracts. I am pleasantly surprised at how serviceable Eppley and Rapada have been, backing Cashman's theory that you can manufacture a back end of the bullpen cheaply. Eppley is nasty on righties and Rapada on lefties, but last night, after Rapada relieved Eppley to face lefty PH Eric Hinske, Gonzalez countered by by pinch hitting righty Matt Diaz. Rapada then struck out the righthanded Diaz on 3 pitches. In effect, Girardi made Gonzalez use up his best lefthanded pinch hitter, and then made him look like an asshole for sending up the righthanded Diaz whom lefthanded Clay Rapada struck out on 3 pitches. Diaz was so humiliated and frustrated, he was then ejected by the home plate umpire after yelling "Wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!" from the dugout. However it looked to me like Rapada ate Diaz's sorry ass up with good pitches painting the outside corner. Diaz was angry with himself for not getting the job done, how often do you see a righthanded PH fanned on 3 pitches by a lefty specialist?
 

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Exactamundo Beav, is there a better GM at mixing and matching a team than Cashman?, unlike the clueless managers over in Boston. Prime example, the Gonzalaz deal with the Padres just might turn out to be the biggest fleecing of the century, it sure is starting to look that way.
 

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Hopefully the Tigers have turned the corner. They beat the Cincinnati Reds Sunday in come from behind fashion to win back-to-back games and the series. The Tigers were trailing 6-3 entering the 8th inning. All but the die-hard Tigers fans had given up and gone to bed. I was watching out of habit...after all we have AAA, AA and now a high A ball player on the roster due to injuries. Red's Manager inserted Chapmen the 101 MPH left handed closer in the 8th with no out and men on first. Terry Francona hailed Chapmen as the best closer in baseball. He had a 0.3 ERA and no loses. The first thing Chapmen did was to hit Matt Young, a recent AAA call up that has struck out 9-11 at bats he has had. Next, the ailing and until recently slumping Brenden Boesch was inserted as a pinch hitter. He hit a 100+MPH fast ball between the 1st and 2nd basemen to load the bass. Next, Austin Jackson, with just his 2nd game back from the disabled list, hit chalk line line drive down the 3rd baseline to tie the game up at 6-6. A wild pitch allowed the tigers to go ahead 7-6 (a runner from High A scored).

What happened next was truely remarkable. Tigers set-up man Benoit got the Reds out 1-2-3-4 in the 8th and Valverde shut them down 1-2-3 in the 9th. That is his 4th in a row 1-2-3 9th inning. Those of you that saw him pitch against the Yankees will know what I am talking about.

Tigers fans are hoping and praying that this is the game to get them going. This was the best win of the year for sure.
 

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Ya know, ever since Cashman has basically been given control or should i say, more control than ever since King George stopped running the day to day operations several years ago, he has clearly shown he is a brilliant baseball man and has earned his paycheck. Say what you want about him having the resources, but truth of the matter is, Joe, you are correct with your analysis of Brain, I mean Brian, Cashman. You can have big money guys on any team but if the "mix and match" cheap contract guys are not maximised to their potential, then the team is not completely sound. It also shows he has built a great minor league system and allows guys down there to continue to develope by adding guys like Rapada and Eppley for cheap. And, if they falter, and cant take the pressure of the Bronx for a whole season, he will go out and find another.

Hungry, as far as the Tigers, they have been a big disappointment so far this season but it wont last all season, thats for sure. They are too good of a team and play in a weak division, they will be a playoff team come October.
Exactamundo Beav, is there a better GM at mixing and matching a team than Cashman?
 

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Congrats to Arod on tying Lou Gehrig as the all time grand slam leaders tonight. Soriano is money again and proving Hank and Hal's decision to bring him on board 2 years ago as a wise one. With that said, David Robertson is due back very soon and will likely be slotted in the set up role again as long as Soriano keeps getting the job done 9 out of 10 times.
 
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