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Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke trashes his own goalies on TSN

“It’s very hard to watch to what happened and not wonder if we have enough (in goal),” Burke said. “I have no answer for that. There were three goals that went in that have to stay out.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/320110#ixzz1neD0aJwY
 

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Wrong thread once again, ghg...... some peeps just never learn or drink to much (dont blame you for the latter based on the habs season lol) Cheers!
 

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Blue Jackets GM throws franchise player under the bus; tells media Rick Nash had asked to be traded

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Rick Nash, the biggest prize available, wasn't dealt before the NHL's trade deadline on Monday.

But the real shocker -- something almost no one knew until it was revealed by general manager Scott Howson later in the day -- is that it was Nash who had asked the Columbus Blue Jackets to trade him.

Most had believed that the Blue Jackets, stuck with by far the worst record in the league at 18-37-7 for 43 points, were dealing him out of desperation. As it turns out, it was the team captain's idea.

"He obviously wants a change," said Howson, who said he was so surprised when Nash asked to be traded in January that it took time for him to process the request.

Nash and his agent, Joe Resnick, did not immediately respond to messages requesting comment. Nash has consistently expressed how much he loves living and playing in Columbus.

That's why Monday's news was such a stunner.

Every team in the NHL spoke to the Blue Jackets about the four-time All-Star, some more seriously than others. Howson made only one small deal on Monday, trading center Samuel Pahlsson to Vancouver for two fourth-round draft picks and minor-league defenseman Taylor Ellington.

Now it's clear that the Blue Jackets will try to deal Nash this summer as soon as rosters open up and teams have time to clear room under the salary cap.

Nash is signed through the 2014-15 season at between $7.5 million and $7.9 million a year. An Olympic gold medalist for his native Canada and a former NHL goal-scoring champion, it was rumored that Los Angeles, the New York Rangers, San Jose and Toronto, among others, were most interested in him.

"He's a member of our team right now. He's our captain. That's not going to change," Howson said. "Obviously, we're going to look at all of our options as we move forward. We'll see what happens once we get around the draft in the summer."

Howson didn't say what he was asking for Nash, but admitted the price was high.

The Rangers bowed out of the Nash sweepstakes Sunday night because Howson's asking price was too high, a source confirmed to ESPNNewYork.com. The Rangers remained in communication with Columbus on Monday, however Howson was unwilling to budge from his demands, the source said.

"We were pretty certain we were going to get what we wanted or we weren't going to trade him," said Blue Jackets senior adviser Craig Patrick. "We just stuck to that right through the whole time."

Rangers general manager Glen Sather confirmed he had talked with Howson about Nash, but wasn't interested in "dismantling" the Rangers.

"I like our team, and I wasn't going to dismantle pieces out of the organization, although it was written just about every different scenario you can imagine. We're not ready to do anything like that," Sather said a little more than three hours after Monday's 3 p.m. trade deadline ended.

The Blue Jackets have the best odds of getting the No. 1 overall pick in that draft. In addition, they made two other big deals in the last week. On Wednesday they traded center Antoine Vermette to Phoenix for a 2012 second-round pick, a conditional 2013 pick and injured goalie Curtis McElhinney. A day later, they dealt Jeff Carter -- acquired in a blockbuster trade from Philadelphia last summer and never a good fit in Columbus -- to Los Angeles for 25-year-old defenseman Jack Johnson and a conditional first-round pick.

Howson says he wants to "reshape" the organization.

Nothing would have reshaped it more than trading Nash, whose low-profile personality has meshed well in a city with a loyal but slowly dwindling fan base. He has said that he enjoys not being the rock star that he would be in his hometown of Toronto or in some of the hockey hotbeds that were interested in his services.

Nash's name had rattled around the league's front offices for several weeks. His agent had given a list of teams that Nash would be interested in to Howson and publicly indicated that his client wasn't averse to leaving Columbus -- if it would help the Blue Jackets.

"We're hopeful a deal can get done prior to the trade deadline that is fair and equitable for the Blue Jackets," Resnick told Canadian sports network TSN. "However, if a deal is not reached, then the list of acceptable teams will not change at a later date."

After the Blue Jackets lost at Pittsburgh 4-2 on Sunday, Nash, who had a short-handed goal, was pragmatic about all the talk.

"It has been a great time living in Columbus," he said after the game. "I'm a Blue Jacket today and I'm doing everything I can to move forward with this team. Like I've said before, the fans deserve a winning game, they deserve a winning team, and they're the ones who have been most patient."

But that was before Howson revealed that it was Nash's idea to be traded. Asked why he did, Howson said, "I just think it was the right thing to do, it's the truthful thing to do."

Nash declined to speak to reporters after Monday's practice.

Columbus hosts the Detroit Red Wings on Tuesday night.

The No. 1 overall choice in the 2002 draft, Nash shared the Maurice "Rocket" Richard Trophy in 2003-04 after scoring a career-high 41 goals. He has had at least 17 goals in each of his nine seasons, including tallying 21 times this season with 22 assists. In his 654-game NHL career, he has 280 goals and 251 assists. Stuck on bad teams every season except 2008-9 when the Blue Jackets made their lone playoff appearance, he has never been surrounded by much talent.

He also has been a superstar on the international stage, twice representing his native Canada in the Olympics, and winning a gold medal in 2010. Nash was also the MVP while helping Canada bring home gold at the World Championships in 2007.

Columbus hosts the NHL All-Star Game in 2013. Nash has been the franchise's only player of that quality in recent years.

Howson was asked if trading Nash might impact the local team for that game.

"We'll just have to have other All-Stars," he said.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/7...jackets-gm-says-rick-nash-asked-trade-january
 

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Rick Nash explains why he asked for trade

Columbus Blue Jackets captain Rick Nash says he asked for a trade to both help the team and his career.

He's unsure of what the reaction might be from fans who feel he is abandoning them after the four-time all-star and Olympic gold medalist told management he prefers to play for another team. He has been the face of the Blue Jackets for nine seasons.

The Blue Jackets host the Detroit Red Wings on Tuesday night. Nash spoke to his teammates before their morning skate.

Interim coach Todd Richards says there have been no discussions about taking the team captaincy away from Nash.

The team, unable to trade Nash before Monday's deadline, will try to deal Nash this summer.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...e-to-help-columbus-his-career/article2352514/
 

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This is no joke......1 for last 9.

The Toronto Maple Leafs have become an exercise in excuses

Bruce Arthur Feb 28, 2012 – 8:22 PM ET

TORONTO — “The guy that turns this team around and wins a championship here, they’re going to name schools after him. That’s how it works.” — Brian Burke, Nov. 29, 2008.

“It’s our goal, we intend to get there, and we think this team is good enough to make the playoffs.” — Burke, Sept. 11, 2009.

“As I said to you guys a year ago, I wasn’t interested, and I’m still not, in a five-year rebuild like some of these teams have done. Maybe because of my age, maybe just because I know it doesn’t have to be five years, because it wasn’t in Anaheim. And I’m not interested in a five-year rebuild here.” — Burke, April 14, 2010.

“Despite our recent stumble, we believe in this group and we believe this group is capable of making the playoffs.” — Burke, Feb. 27, 2011.

It doesn’t matter that Brian Burke didn’t make a big move at the NHL trade deadline, because almost nobody made a big move at the NHL trade deadline. If you want to criticize the general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs, then the NHL’s Cold War deadline is not the place to start. Or to finish, either.

But there is plenty to criticize, to be sure. As this season has skidded onto yet another ledge, next to yet another early April abyss, this organization has become an exercise in excuses, in misdirection, and in incoherence. It’s not over, of course — there is still time for this group to pull up the nose of the plane and make the playoffs.

If they do not, however, the script has already been written. Ron Wilson has hammered his goaltending over and over again, right up until the point that Burke couldn’t find a replacement worth buying at the trade deadline, at which point confidence was magically restored. At that point, Wilson took to the podium before Tuesday’s showdown with Florida and with a note of triumphalism in his voice said, “All these rumours the last couple weeks have shown that they were nothing but rumours, so all of our team is going to get a weight off their shoulders, I think, and start moving forward.”

Um, the rumours? Burke was the one who said on TSN Radio last week that he was looking for a goaltender, which came after Jonas Gustavsson allowed Toronto’s worst goal of the year, which to that point was one hell of a contest. And Wilson was the one strapping explosives to Gustavsson and Reimer day after day. You want a confidence shaker, it’s not Darren Dreger and Bob McKenzie.

As for the moving forward part, the Leafs then went out and spotted their opponent a 2-0 lead for the fifth consecutive game, this time in the first two minutes and 21 seconds. Good thing the trade deadline had passed, though, or it surely would have been even worse — at least, if you ask Burke and Wilson, both of whom pointed to the pressure exerted on the players at this time of year.

“I think the trade deadline is hard on players, but I think it’s murder on players in Toronto,” Burke said Monday. “And we just had a serious debate whether next year we’re going to do this 10 days earlier so the players can relax.”

The pressure of the trade deadline? Really? This is Toronto, for God’s sake. Burke knew the moment he took this job what he had to build, and what kind of players were required to build it, and four years later this is a viable excuse?

Burke has worked in one of Canada’s frozen boiler rooms before, and he railed against the entitlement of blue-and-white disease from the moment he got here. He has always tried to eradicate excuses for losing, to the point that he traded for Martin Gerber at the end of the 2008-09 season. It meant drafting seventh instead of, say, top-five, and may still be the most inexplicable move Burke has ever made.

And now, with a team in crisis and a tumbleweed-filled trade deadline, it’s the trade deadline’s fault. Blaming the media is a tired and frankly ridiculous tactic by this organization. It’s a sideshow. In the month of February, with the dreaded pressures of the trade deadline coming to bear across the country, how did teams react? Leaving aside the Canucks, who are in a separate category from the rest of Canada, and before Tuesday night’s games, the Calgary Flames and Winnipeg Jets maintained their playoff bubble status by earning 15 points apiece; Ottawa recorded 14 points; Edmonton garnered 13; even Montreal, where the flames have consumed the whole misbegotten wreck, had 11.

Toronto, before Tuesday, had managed nine.

It’s not just this year, though. Every year Burke has aimed for the playoffs, and it hasn’t happened yet. If it wasn’t a five-year rebuild before, it may be now. There are two teams that have not reached the post-season since the lockout. One is Toronto. The other is Florida, who were the beneficiaries of that early 2-0 lead on the Leafs on Tuesday night.

“That’s on our résumé,” first-year Panthers coach Kevin Dineen said. “We’ve been looked at as a team that hasn’t been, say, what Nashville has done. You know, year after year they find a way to get it done, and we haven’t been there.

“But that’s part of the fun of being in the job, is to go out there and set the pace and have a chance of being … what I like to say is we want to be relevant when things come around in April, when you’re getting down to the nitty gritty, you’re right in the thick of things.”

That’s what Toronto wants, too. At the morning skate, Wilson said that with the trade deadline gone, “This should be pressure that you enjoy. You know you’re going to be here, and you’re trying to make the playoffs. This is positive pressure. Trade deadline pressure is negative pressure.”

The next 19 games are not just a referendum on the goaltending, on the defencemen, on the forwards, on the coach. They’re yet another referendum on Burke, who lords over this entire misbegotten project. Toronto is pressure. And it’s always on.


Got to agree. This is Burke's make it or break it year. He needs the playoffs to justify his stewardship over this team. Otherwise, all he has achieved is a mournful legacy of futility.

God help them,

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I'm stlll thinking Bob Hartley will be brought in by Molson to coach the Habs next season.

He's got a rep for being hardnosed and he's frano-Canadian which apparently means he's a better coach according to the politicians... ok, i'll leave politics out of it but seriously, he'd be a welcome coach.
 

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Every young team goes thru growing pains, except the Rangers and Preds it seems lol (then again, they have the 2 best goalies in the entire NHL) ...... 18 games left to right the ship. A win tomorrow night at the Bell Centre and the young leafs are just 3 points out of the final spot with 17 to go. Maybe Carlyle is just what the Dr. Ordered....we shall see. GLG!

geez, anyone else see this epic faceplant by the Leafs coming???
 

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Your not one of the habs supporters wishing for Patrick Roy? Rumour has it Saint Patrick is holding out to see if Quebec City might get a team so he can stick it to the habs lol.....
I'm stlll thinking Bob Hartley will be brought in by Molson to coach the Habs next season.

He's got a rep for being hardnosed and he's frano-Canadian which apparently means he's a better coach according to the politicians... ok, i'll leave politics out of it but seriously, he'd be a welcome coach.
 

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Gotta love those colors, eh habs fans? hahahaahah

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Grabovski now has four goals and nine assists in 11 games as a Leaf at the Bell Centre.

"He's one of those guys that will never back down and he definitely didn't do that today and [the team] got a couple points off of it." Added Carlyle, "He's like the energizer bunny, he just keeps going."…

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Enjoy LAST PLACE hABS fANS!,So VERY well deserved!!! :thumb:
 
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Yakupov is another Russian who will bolt to the KHL if not coddled to. If he is coddled to he could be a great player although needs to put on some size, at least another 20lbs to his 170lb frame to be able to endure a 82 game NHL season. He is likely going to the Blue Jackets however.

Cherry waited a few weeks to talk about Burke, wonder why? He is free to say whatever he wants just like we all are, so what. Burke firing Wilson was one of the hardest things for him to do, personally, because of his long time friendship with Ron, but i applaud him for being able to put the good of the team above his personal relationships, that made me respect him more than i already did. Wilson had the dressing room until the last couple games, and Burke realised this and acted swiftly and got a great coach in Carlyle. The hiring of Carlyle could go down as a main reason to the future of the Leafs success.

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I was very happy to see the Leafs win last night, was actually rooting for them. Best thing to do for the Habs is to tank the season and hope they get a good chance at drafting Yakupov in the draft.

After last nights Coach's Corner, Don Cherry is my new hero. Boy did he rip into blowhard Burke,loved every minute of it. :hail:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqvDbQfibiM
 

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Cherry needs to check the facts

The Leafs have more local talent in the system than any other team in the nhl has local talent, 13 players are from Ontario and Burke has drafted 8 Ontarians in his 3 drafts as GM of the Leafs. You dont draft by geography, you draft by talent, case closed!

I have always loved Cherry but he should of thought things through a bit more. Just cause Kadri, Colborne or McKegg are not with the big club does not mean Burke has a bias towards Ontario born players like Cherry wants to think, It simply means Burke and Management do not think those players are ready yet, no more no less. Burke is a fair man, earn your spot and your on the team, and with Carlyle being the type of coach to put the best players that are available for specific tasks on certain lines, it does not mean the more talented "scorer" will get a spot just to play on the third line for example. Kadri is from Ontario and loaded with talent, but he is a top 6 guy and so far they think his D-play combined with his O-play can not bump one of the top six, so he is getting the benefit of Dallas Eakins on the farm and thus will be here soon, likely full time next season, there is one Ontario boy who will be here, as well as some of the others that exist on the farm, likely.

Cherry is still someone i love to watch but he looked like he was ready to have a heart attack over something he should of researched a little more.

The Toronto Maple Leafs don't have Ontario-born players. Superficially, this is true; technically, this is not true. According to Derek Zona of The Copper and Blue, the Leafs have 13 players in their system from Ontario. That's more local players than any other team in the League.

http://www.coppernblue.com/2012/3/4/2844004/local-talent-in-the-nhl
 

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Just in, Tukka Rask of the boston bruins is out with a groin injury for 6 weeks, Marty Turco just signed as backup to Tim Thomas.
 

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Just in, Tukka Rask of the boston bruins is out with a groin injury for 6 weeks, Marty Turco just signed as backup to Tim Thomas.

Ouch! That'll hurt. With Nathan Horton likely out for the season, injuries are starting to hurt the team at the worse time in the season. Any news on that defenceman who got run over by Chris Neil the other day? It looked like he was run over by a bus!
 
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