This hobby definitely has its ups and downs for me. Luckily more ups thankfully. What I have noticed as the years go by is that the tramp stamps have occupied more real estate and have grown in size. LOL. Back in 2004 when I started in this hobby there were definitely tats but they were small and subtle. Which I find very sexy and appealing.
The Scene is very different now, isn't it?
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Yep, the schedule came out late morning or early PM on Monday. I would head out to the parking lot and from my car view the schedule and call John and put my order in. I can remember trying to get Karyna and it was just not going to happen. i questioned if she really exisited. I couldn't even book her on Monday early afternoons. It was like trying to find Bigfoot or the Yeti. I threatened to organize an expedition with a film crew and a local guide like Oliver Klissoff (Cruising with Oliver) and go to Montreal and try to capture Karyana on film for National Geographic or something. I wanted to prove to myself that she actually exisited.
LOL. Every time Eleganza is mentioned everyone has their own amazing memorable stories to tell. That was some agency. John was one of a kind of pimp. Too bad for what happened in the end and the whole establishment just faded away the way it did.
I used to do the same thing! I would decide if I was heading to Montreal or not based on the Monday afternoon schedule update.
Back then I had a Blackberry with a lousy web browser. Not being able to view their website at work (for obvious reasons) I would call my buddy who worked from his home office to update me on the schedule and I would go ahead and pre book my weekend.
I've said it before on this board, we need agencies that make an attempt to recruit new girls (like Eleganza did) instead of them hiring the same old well reviewed "legends". Back in the Ganza days there were amazing new girls all the time. Then the other agencies would recruit them away, but Ganza kept at it. Even the girls that were stolen from Ganza would be great to see.
Now we are seeing agencies making minimal efforts to bring in new talent and the overall SP scene is suffering because of it.
Personally, I think the "scene" right now is as good as it has ever been all things considered. Life is what you make it, boyzzz
What he said.
Personally, I think the "scene" right now is as good as it has ever been all things considered. Life is what you make it, boyzzz
Possibly, but you've only been around 5 years or so. Basically, still a young hobbyist. Had you been around 10-15 years ago, i GUARANTEE that you'd be longing for the good ol' days of hobbying. Those years were golden as compared to now.
I miss the days when i used to discover gems at Montreal Girlfriends, Alissa Mtl, Freedom, Agence Fantasmes, Les Filles de M. Jacques, Maxximum, Obsession Perfection, Sweet Dreams, Heartbreakers, Douces Folies, First Time, Centerforlds, Exxxlusive, Better Half, Exxxtreme, etc. And later, Dangerous Curves, Independent Network, Eleganza, Sweet Dreams, Jardin de Madison, Mtl Gems, Asservissant (still around, but far from what it once was), etc.
How i'd love to turn back the clock and have one last encounter with the likes of Anita, Sarah, Samantha, Emilie, Emanuelle, Emma, Melanie, Marie-Eve, Evelyne, Gabrielle, Madison, Laurie, Camille, Serina, Sophie, Joelle, Crystelle and so many others. And yes, even Karyna, whom i must admit didn't create as great an impression on me as i had hoped at the time. But the business was already starting to change by then and best sps i'd seen since 1999 had either left the business or were on their way out by then.
Truth. WTF is up with all the ink? Don't these girls realize it's permanent and not artwork??
That said, Montreal has always been unique in this way - strips of pink in the hair, red hair, blue hair, ink, piercings in odd places. It's like all the teenage girls in Quebec want to be rebels and spite their parents. And it's generational. It's always been this way, to my memory, the ink has just gotten larger. Eastern Europeans for the most part, Asians and Latinas, at least the ones that come through Miami, tend to be pristinely free of ink. Can't comment on ghetto Asians like the Thai, which I have zero interest in.
On the flip side, more variety for everyone. Some people find Christy Mack to be attractive. I think she's trailer trash, and looks like shit. To each their own. For those of us that prefer no ink, we just have to filter some more.
True and true, but I still kind of like it. I mean, Kate at Mojo? Sheesh! If you don't want to call her, I'll call her.
Also, the Emo/Goth thing was really just starting when I was in high school. I'm not sure how I felt about it then, but it gets my inner dog out these days. Grrrrrr! Ink/no ink, piercings/no piercings. Makes no difference, really -- hot is hot.
I totally agree 1000 %
I think I might have been the last one to see her on that Sunday night
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Smuler
True i was not around in the "golden age" but really what i was implying was no matter what anyone thinks of the "scene" now compared to "then" or "whenever" is that it is as good as you make it. I just has a fantastic time with a lady that is easily in my top encounters all time, just a few weeks ago. I just attended a private party in the home of one of the most generous Merb Members that i have ever met where 17 ladies showed up on a nasty rainy friday night not to mention the other bigger parties that go on every few months. Having dinner with friends in the "scene" from one on ones with buddies to cocktails with some amazing women as well, all from that same "scene". While you are likely right about the overwhelming choices back then and prices for guys from the states, it is all in what you make it as i stated and to "me", today is as good as then, actually IMHO, Better mon ami.
Hello all,
Ratings have very little to do with a person's self-esteem. We are paying to see ladies and I do see how the act of paying allows anyone to think he's better than before. Some people simply disagree widely on the looks of a lady. Differences in specific preferences and elements that are attractive or objectionable to individuals would allow for that variance. The degree of success of the encounter would be another big factor emotionally. Some can be honest no matter what, others alter ratings on everything due to the meeting success or failure. Some are so excited to have been with a very hot lady that they inflate numbers significantly. I have had the same experiences with feelings, one reason I never use numbers.
You've got to read individuals for a while to get a feeling for their rationality before trusting them. You're right, the novice can fall into a trap easily. You've got to do the work to understand what is going on. It's too bad there are so many land mines like people who refuse to include honest criticisms or those who are after a favored status with agencies and Indies. Those mines have always been there. Help yourself by doing your own work.
Marie-Eve was a sexually ravenous hot looking kitten. Not a "10" in beauty but extremely fine and she made sexual fantasies come true. Rebeka, a beauty with class, style and she knew how to make a great presentation just to start with.
It's all been said before over and over because nothing has changed on these things.
Overall, quality seems to be better, presentation seems to be worse. It's like once GFE became the expectation the agencies relaxed on dressing. Jean jean jeans jeans jeans...get rid of them or enter my room in your panties. Ladies used to come dressed to impress. Now it's too often like they went shopping or did chores before going to escort. Otherwise the quality of the experience seems more intimate and less like a cold business exchange.
K.I.M., great looking with a very, VERY fine body. Maybe describing someone I met at 3:00 am is unfair but she chose the time to work and should be ready. She was disappointing in attitude. Katryna, I caught her as an Indy just before retirement. No disappointment at all. Super fine and hot.
After le pingouin (Penguin), John was the biggest jerk ever. When the moment comes that DD and I agree that's saying a damn lot. Rotten attitude, proven liar, scammer. I still had good experiences with him for a few years despite his terrible attitude. He may have had hot ladies but as someone said recently, if you lie or treat us like crap I won't tolerate it.
NO DOUBT....Miss Samantha. :thumb:
l like it, if it's not too much. One thing I don't want to see is this skull and bones or dark Gothic stuff. Mr Willy says he's not into it.
The biggest change is the phenomenal exchange rate that existed a dozen years ago between the U.S. and Canada. Can you imagine getting an extra instant 60% on your money. The temptation to go on a crazy spending spree was irresistible nad times were WONDERFUL.
Cheers,
Merlot
Ratings have very little to do with a person's self-esteem. We are paying to see ladies and I do see how the act of paying allows anyone to think he's better than before. Some people simply disagree widely on the looks of a lady. Differences in specific preferences and elements that are attractive or objectionable to individuals would allow for that variance. The degree of success of the encounter would be another big factor emotionally. Some can be honest no matter what, others alter ratings on everything due to the meeting success or failure. Some are so excited to have been with a very hot lady that they inflate numbers significantly. I have had the same experiences with feelings, one reason I never use numbers.
You've got to read individuals for a while to get a feeling for their rationality before trusting them. You're right, the novice can fall into a trap easily. You've got to do the work to understand what is going on. It's too bad there are so many land mines like people who refuse to include honest criticisms or those who are after a favored status with agencies and Indies. Those mines have always been there. Help yourself by doing your own work.
Marie-Eve was a sexually ravenous hot looking kitten. Not a "10" in beauty but extremely fine and she made sexual fantasies come true. Rebeka, a beauty with class, style and she knew how to make a great presentation just to start with.
It's all been said before over and over because nothing has changed on these things.
Overall, quality seems to be better, presentation seems to be worse. It's like once GFE became the expectation the agencies relaxed on dressing. Jean jean jeans jeans jeans...get rid of them or enter my room in your panties. Ladies used to come dressed to impress. Now it's too often like they went shopping or did chores before going to escort. Otherwise the quality of the experience seems more intimate and less like a cold business exchange.
K.I.M., great looking with a very, VERY fine body. Maybe describing someone I met at 3:00 am is unfair but she chose the time to work and should be ready. She was disappointing in attitude. Katryna, I caught her as an Indy just before retirement. No disappointment at all. Super fine and hot.
After le pingouin (Penguin), John was the biggest jerk ever. When the moment comes that DD and I agree that's saying a damn lot. Rotten attitude, proven liar, scammer. I still had good experiences with him for a few years despite his terrible attitude. He may have had hot ladies but as someone said recently, if you lie or treat us like crap I won't tolerate it.
NO DOUBT....Miss Samantha. :thumb:
l like it, if it's not too much. One thing I don't want to see is this skull and bones or dark Gothic stuff. Mr Willy says he's not into it.
The biggest change is the phenomenal exchange rate that existed a dozen years ago between the U.S. and Canada. Can you imagine getting an extra instant 60% on your money. The temptation to go on a crazy spending spree was irresistible nad times were WONDERFUL.
Cheers,
Merlot
About ten years ago, i was saying the exact same thing. I was surprised everytime an sp i'd meet would ask if we could meet privately (at no extra cost) later and the parties i attended were great. The first parties at HDLM were fantastic and a large group of hobbyists and sps would meet up for a dinner prior to attending those gatherings. Once in a while when i'd be in town, a group of hobbyists would meet up for dinner at Buena Note and we'd then each go our own way and see an sp, only to meet up a couple of hours later at a local stripclub (often it was at Teezers on Crescent st) to talk about our most recent 'conquests' until the wee hours of the morning. Back in those days, the women were so irresistable that i'd see one in the morning, one in late afternoon, and often one later in the evening....then head over to the strippers and when i'd get back at 3 am i'd call another sp. Man, those were great times! :thumb:
What i'm trying to say is that back in those days, i'd often hear veteran hobbyists say that the pre-internet days were better. They'd mention sps and agencies i had never heard of. At times, i was envious of them. But i'd always tell them that 'no way, the hobby scene is much better today than it was back then' and i'd list all of my exploits and the great people i had met through the hobby whom i remained friends (and others who disappeared completely once they 'retired' from the hobby). For me, this was the case. It was hard for me to believe that things could be better back then than they were at the time for me and others who entered the hobby at nearly the same time.
But it's one big merry-go-round and as the old saying goes, history tailgates.
Ten years from now, you'll have a crop of new hobbyists who'll flatly state that things are way better now (ten years or so from now) than they were today and that people like us who brag about how great the hobby currently is or was are all full of shit.
It's no different than discovering a new drug. The first time i did some of them, i thought they were the greatest discovery on the planet! But then i realized that you never regain the same feeling...the same buzz that the initial one gave. Many people spend their lives trying to re-discover that same initial feeling or buzz.
That's how it goes....all the time. Sure, my hobbying likely cost me a quarter of a million dollars over the past 16 years, but i don't regret it one bit. It was a heck of a ride for the first 10 years or so.....until i discovered moderation and realized i was living the life of a multimillionaire....when i was not (at the time). But i was at my happiest during my trips to Mtl, i met some great people, and i lived out nearly every sexual fantasy i ever had. Sure, i realized i had a sex addiction, but i got a lot of pleasure out of it and it's probably why today i feel that i'm cured. They say too much of a good thing isn't necessarily good, but in my case, overdosing on sex over and over both in my private life and as a hobbyist was actually a good thing. What a great life it was, and what a great life it continues to be! Esta la vista, baby! :thumb:
I never saw you happier (or drunker, lol) than when you were singing this for a group of 17 of us at Pats house ....... great times mon ami! encore! encore!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztkUuunI7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztkUuunI7g
First, I echo what Wolfie said, everyone be careful to understand that no one is talking about our wonderful "Z" in Montreal! I have been visiting Montreal a few times a year for many more years than most, and much more frequently than that in recent years. I see only two areas where the quality has declined; and "quality," I will remind everyone, is very subjective. First is with the amount of ink, and second is with dress. The dress part is almost exclusively with agency girls, and excessive ink is subjective, I believe many guys like it or the girls wouldn't do it. If you are consistently getting poor quality ladies then you are not doing your homework. I am not saying there isn't some bad service around, there is and always has been. But Montreal has some of the best, friendliest, and most beautiful women in the world! Most of the SP's I see I would classify as above average, in looks, attitude, and performance, with a few outstanding. I normally only post reviews on the outstanding ladies or the very bad ones, but that opinion is only mine. With most things in life, a client gets what he deserves. Sure, there are some providers that are better than others, but let's face it, there are also clients that are better than others. I am not saying anyone posting to this thread mistreats anyone, but just like we say YMMV, the ladies we see also feel that. That is not a reason for not giving good service, but it can be the difference between a good experience and a great experience.
The biggest reason why some might be disappointed is that with the Internet it is so much easier now to think you know what you are getting. Do your homework and be nice.
The biggest reason why some might be disappointed is that with the Internet it is so much easier now to think you know what you are getting. Do your homework and be nice.
I am quite new in this hobby compare to some of you guys so I don't know for the past. For being well dressed is that often with agency in the incall the girl are already in lingerie or underwear when they open the door. I much prefer if the girl is all dressed up, it's much more fun discovering slowly what's she's wearing underneath and undressing her while kissing just turn me on a lot more than having the girl already in lingerie. In the outcall I think a lot of girl these days dress more casual so people don't think she's an escort when she's entering the hotel.
Is there anything more beautiful than a nice women all dressed up with nice classy dress, high heals, hair done, a little makeup and with sexy lingerie underneath...:hail: but even if she has all that she has to offer a good service if not I'll take the good provider who open the door already in lingerie
I agree that the amount of ink the girls are wearing these days is something that you have to get used to. It is what it is.
I don't really think that girls are dressing that much better or worse than the days of yesteryear. A pig wearing lipstick and a nice dress is still a pig.
Years ago you could roll the dice on a girl with no reviews or even pictures and 8 times out of 10 a really hot girl would be knocking on your hotel room door. Nowadays when you take a chance or go based on what the booker is telling you, it's more like 3 times out of 10. I always felt that it was a privilege to come to Montreal and hobby with some of the best SP's around. Now it seems like any girl with fake boobs and a less than average face can become a "legend".
Hot girls are still working as SP's in Montreal, it's just harder to find them IMHO.
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