This is what an FKK is:

[hungry101]

Montreal is my favorite place to practice our hobby in NA. I consider it my home court. However, there are other places and formats that are outstanding and worth traveling to. One of those formats is the FKK scene. What does FKK stand for? It has something to do with the nudist movement in Germany. I believe that both the women and the men pay to get in ~60 Euros and then the women free lance starting at 50 Euros for what is equivalent to Montreal GFE. Now I will say that I get better service on average in Montreal but....Oh the hell with it. Watch the following video.

This is an FKK: http://fkktours.com/ find the Youtube video and enjoy.

Here is a direct link to the video of Golden Time but by using this route you have to sign in to verify your age:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNLYczQFxkM

 

[hungry101]

IDK Patron. I believe in discretion and the FKK scene couldn't be anymore discrete. They are tucked away in the middle of nowhere and I really had to look carefully to find them. Yes, there are some individuals that put this stuff on Wikapedia. There is little purpose for this but to anger the abolitionists but I wish someone would of loaded me into a time machine when I was 18-21 years old and show me what the future was like and that there is a place called Montreal, Sao Paulo, and the FKK scene.

I really think the problem is the political process, political correctness, and the demagoguery of those running for office everywhere. If I where an evil person and I was not gainfully employed, I would run for office. I really do not have any ideas on how to solve any of the real problems such as opiate addiction for example but I would trump up the trafficking problem and underage prostitution and other problems that do not or barely exist and I would be the candidate...no, the crusader, that would solve them. I would set up highly publicized stings on Back-page and I would shame anyone who challenged the notion that my stings are not benefiting womankind and society. Who know's? Maybe we would even catch an underage prostitute or a trafficked escort (whatever that is). If we did that would be on the front page of every newspaper and on all the talk shows. But I'm not an evil person and I am gainfully employed.

BTW - this formula has already worked very well in the State in which I live so maybe I would need a twist?

Wasn't that GoldenTime video awesome?

 

[Maria Divina]

Patron:

I exactly observed in the past what you are talking, that the most you are exposed, the most you risk to have problems.

I understand the will & inner energy to want to be accepted exactly how we are, that is totally justifiable as human beings.

But I know the principle to live in peace in any kind of neighbourhoods, is to be discrete and making our business without pushing others to swallow by force our own believes & our own way to live.

To have that kind of place openly advertised will make jump of their guns some people, that's for sure.

I understand there are people who are not able to figure out that we could be happy living differently to what is their ideals of life, and they judge from their own point of view. (in fact, we all do, we have to be sincere) but related to our activities in this industry, from our own point of view from the inside, I might guess we are much more tolerant for them that they are, in the outside for us.

"Society" is not ready to accept us like we are, clients & Sp's alike, to be recognized full members of it. We are just pushed away, infantilized and deny even intelligence, free willing and being in good mental health.

*It's very strange at this second, I just had the impression that I wrote something that could have been written back then homosexuality was illegal.

No matter what the abolitionist movement will do, "we" will be always existing. So when we are in a time of repression, like any repression time, things are just going in a more undercover way.

Of course, there is some courageous or reckless people who think they will open the path. I don't know if we could think to win or lose something at the end when we attempt something, the Bedford case was full of good intentions, but leaved us with this new worst law after. And I received it as a warning: "Don't try to be more happy and have an easier life, because we will always just be complicated it more. So, shall up and don't bother us anymore"

I think the most important is to be able to do our activities, no matter the other opinions around are.

Hungry:

I understand why FKK are well hidden. But I don't know if people who expose them are not exposing FKK to eventual repression, by the way. I hope not. Some abolitionist might be "extreme abolitionist" , who knows?
And that has been proven that's even hypocrite sometimes. But hey, to keep an immaculate public image, some may not hesitate. That's the cautious side of me who's talking. Life is made of infinite possibilities. I suggest always prudence and discretion, but that's probably a trait related after experimentation from my part.

Time for coffee now. :tea:

 

[bbcbz]

Thank you hungry101 for sharing this amazing information. I have to try this once in my life

 

[B52]

Went to Artemis in Germany, gorgeous looking ladies, 8.5 and above I would say! But service wise, I would choose Montréal without question! Yeah it's amazing seeing the 50 ladies naked! Add to the scene 100 guys, different age range, you can see who the girl has fucked just before you, and after you... I don't know, wasn't my favorite experience, Wouldnt repeat soon.

 

[hungry101]

B52 - I am not going to disagree with you. I feel that I get better service on average in Montreal. My trick is to avoid the aggressive Romanian girls. But you can get Montreal service there. It just seems like it is a little more hit-n-miss.

I just got back from Brazil and I will say that I have received outstanding treatment in Sao Paulo. In the past in Rio I received good service from the Termas girls. I have even had one come to my room and spend the night with me for free and a girl offered the same in Sampa last trip. This can be good and bad.

Montreal is perfect. Great passion and then they leave. If you want to see them again you can always call the agency and request them. When they show up they are happy to see you but the lines are drawn. I like this. I have had great service in Montreal with the exception of one girl. So Montreal is very good. But man - you can't beat a 50 Euro session with BBBJ, DFK, and DATY.

 

[kmwq]

I was at a couple of FKKs near Frankfurt earlier this year and really enjoyed my time there. All the ladies were very good looking and had great bodies. The ladies walk around in high heel shoes all dolled up with either a small towel around their waist or completely naked. What's not to like? you can sit with a drink and the ladies come to introduce themselves and if you like you can spend some private time for 50€. I spent time with four ladies at each club over two days and although I cannot get off that many times, I'm in my 50s, it was certainly fun trying. Do I think that it's better than the scene we have here in Toronto or Montreal? No. But did I enjoy my time, you bet. Will I go again, absolutely. Don't compare the two and argue which is better, just have fun and enjoy.

 

[hungry101]

I was at a couple of FKKs near Frankfurt earlier this year and really enjoyed my time there. Don't compare the two and argue which is better, just have fun and enjoy.

Where did you go? I really like Oase. I have done two separate trips there and I spent 5 days there. I did spend a day at World too.

You are exactly right. Go there and enjoy. Have fun and enjoy it for what it is. I have had Montreal/Brazil caliber service there. The regulars say they get this all the time even from the Romanians. But so what if it is hit or miss. For the price you pay it is ok to have a few girls that fuck like Fembots.

 

[Garotalover]

You have to develop a thick skin at the FKK clubs. The Romanian girls are super aggressive - and you have to get used to an occasional girl telling you to "go eff yourself" after you tell her "...maybe later..." for the third time. Also lots of aggressive up-selling for anal or extension of time past the 30 minutes, in the middle of the act. But, if you are a sexual voyeur, like me, and enjoy watching nude women prancing around, then you should enjoy yourself.

 

[oobe]

About FKK visibility and the new law, my understanding is that legalization of prostitution in Germany was a well thought out and discussed decision, because many people were convinced that it would globally improve the situation (vs. driving it underground, for the saftey and well-being of theworkers, etc...). They weighted the pros and cons, and decided that it appeared like the best solution.

Now it's been a number of years, they reopened the case using the gathered evidence, evaluated whether the expected pros had materialized, and tried to correct the cons.

Of course moral issues are never very far, but I would tend to respect a political decision making process which tries to base itself on facts, and re-evaluates the decisions comparing the expected results with reality.
Having laws which are silently ignored may be convenient for many, but it also means legal uncertainty, and won't prevent self-righteous zelots from starting a crusade anyway.