Those crazy Americans...

[lovin spoonful]

http://www.local6.com/news/7043931/detail.html

SPOTSYLVANIA, Va. -- Undercover sex is getting the OK from a Virginia sheriff.

Spotsylvania County Sheriff Howard Smith said he stands by the practice of allowing detectives to receive sexual services in the course of their investigations so they can catch suspects in the act.

Court documents show that four times last month, county detectives allowed women at a massage parlor to perform sex acts on them. In one case, a lawman left a $350 tip. Smith acknowledged the practice is not new.

Smith told The Washington Post that only unmarried detectives are allowed to do the under-the-covers work.

He said actual sex acts are needed to help win prostitution convictions.

"If I thought we could get the conviction without that, we wouldn't allow it," Smith told the newspaper. "If you want to make them, this has to be done."

He said most prostitutes are careful not to say anything incriminating, which makes sexual contact necessary

Several police officials and legal observers say the practice has been tried by other agencies across the country, but they knew of none that still permit sexual contact with suspects as part of prostitution investigations. But many police agencies across the country have banned sexual contact between investigators and suspects.

When police used similar tactics in the past in Montgomery County, Md., the charges ended up being dropped.

You have to love how instead of trying to address the root issue they just use it as an excuse to spend taxpaper money on prostitution.

If it really is necessary to have intercourse to get a conviction, at what point is there "enough evidence"? I'm guessing it's after the cops have their orgasms.

 

[joelcairo]

If the cop comes twice, the girl has her sentence doubled. If he comes quickly, she gets a suspended sentence.

 

[daydreamer41]

WHat I read was that the women were from China and knew very little English to begin with. So they would say nothing and just waited for the guy to initiate the action.

 

[EagerBeaver]

American incall ops and outcall ops typically are much more attuned to deflecting successful LE than they are in Canada. It's true as Daydreamer says that there is a steady stream of imported Asian women, many of whom speak almost no English, working at the MPs. The ones that do know English are trained as to what they should or should not say.

Years ago I saw an SP in Boston who asked me to touch her breast the moment she walked through my hotel door, before any business got transacted. It was the first thing she did after saying hello - "Touch me here." The purpose was she knew Boston LE COULD NOT touch her. I was being screened. So LE has gotten wise. Rather than have unsuccessful prosecutions that are a waste of time and money and embarass the State's Attorney's office, they are taking the next step and allowing undercovers to get BJs.

Daydreamer is right though about the language factor in the MPs. In Connecticut the MPs are staffed mainly by Korean girls who are smuggled into this country, and barely can speak any English at all. They work 3-6 months, make big money, then go back to Korea and are replaced by a new group of young debutantes.

 

[lovin spoonful]

So LE has gotten wise. Rather than have unsuccessful prosecutions that are a waste of time and money and embarass the State's Attorney's office, they are taking the next step and allowing undercovers to get BJs.

Wise? As it turns out, this has proven to be far more embarassing than whatever they were doing previously.

and 350+entrance fee for a BJ? That must be one hell of a blowjob.

 

[daydreamer41]

State laws in the US regarding prostitution vary widely from state to state. There are states which have laws where all the law needs to do is prove intent to commit prostitution. This law is tied to loitering. There are other states where actual solicitation must be made. However, I seriously doubt that Virginia requires that the actual act must be performed, just the offering of money for services, or acceptance of money for services.

In this case, since these girls did not communicate at it was difficult for LE to get a conviction and the police chief thought the only way he could get evidence was to send his boys off on a "mission?"

In a normal sting, the cop would ask the girl how much a bj would be, etc. When the girl answered, the cop would arrest her.

Here the "Korean" girl just off the boat, just smiled and would say nothing. It forced the cop to do all of the communicating, presenting of money, etc. and the cop would not know that she understood until she actually did the deed.

If I was a constituent of this town, I would be upset. They shouldn't waste money like that.

Rogue police like in NYC vice many years ago have been known to take services in leiu of bribes. An active Police Chief more recently in a small NJ town was convicted of running a bawdy house and escort service.

But I think that this police chief was thinking way out of the box.

 

[bond_james_bond]

They've stopped ... for now

Spotsylvania County Sheriff Smith has announced that they will suspend the use of this tactic (cops getting happy endings):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/17/AR2006021701982.html

Here's a lovely quote from County Prosecutor Neely:

Thus, we are left with the fundamental moral question of all criminal justice enforcement -- what is worse for our community: Organized prostitution and all of the crime which is proven to arise from it -- or a few police officers engaging in illicit sex acts in order to ultimately drive such crime from their jurisdiction & to better protect their community??

Puh-leaze. I am soooooo sick of this soccer mom paranoia and puritanism we have in the USA.

Here's another zinger from Neely:

How is a prosecutor supposed to prove a case against the massage parlor madam and its owners if the police officer arrests the hooker before the marked money paid to her for sex can move into the madam's hands??

Hey, how about legalizing and/or regulating it? And not wasting valuable police resources on consensual activity between adults?

That way, the madam could register as a legit business, and be subject to inspections for diseases and legal work permits. And the MPAs could go to police without fear of prosecution, if they feel they are being enslaved.