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ThunderLipps

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Poor baby. Trump is such a victim.

That's not the point, does the media post about Harris's past comments, her stance on 15 min cities, defunding the police or the new green deal, pretty sure if it was Trump that said those things it would be plastered all over the medias. If questioned by a reporter ( use that term lightly ) will she be asked of her policies or what her favorite flavor of ice cream is. There is a video of someone asking people who they would vote for, if they replied Harris they would be asked what policies of her did they like, not one could give a policy of Harris as she has none.
 

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That's not the point, does the media post about Harris's past comments, her stance on 15 min cities, defunding the police or the new green deal, pretty sure if it was Trump that said those things it would be plastered all over the medias. If questioned by a reporter ( use that term lightly ) will she be asked of her policies or what her favorite flavor of ice cream is. There is a video of someone asking people who they would vote for, if they replied Harris they would be asked what policies of her did they like, not one could give a policy of Harris as she has none.
You have written that the 'liberal' media is trying to discredit trump. I disagree. I think that trump is discrediting, disgracing, and disqualifying himself by his words and his actions. The legitimate media is just reporting on all of that. The legitimate media is also reporting on what Harris is saying at her campaign events. What Harris says is normal campaign rhetoric. What trump says is outrageous and draws more attention from the press.
 

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You have written that the 'liberal' media is trying to discredit trump. I disagree. I think that trump is discrediting, disgracing, and disqualifying himself by his words and his actions. The legitimate media is just reporting on all of that. The legitimate media is also reporting on what Harris is saying at her campaign events. What Harris says is normal campaign rhetoric. What trump says is outrageous and draws more attention from the press.

Coming from someone who has for 8 years constantly kept track of Trump I guess you are an authority on his dealings. My point is towards people who do not follow politics and just catch the headlines which seem to coddle the Dems and post any BS about Trump. They may vote Dem not knowing the possible shit storm the Dems may cause.
What if Harris reverts back to her old ways and defunds the police, all in favor of 15 min cities, goes all out with the green agenda costing trillions plus who knows what kind of crap she comes up with.
 
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TigerWould

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There's no question Trump's 4 years were much better than Biden's:

inflation:
Trump 7.8% - Biden 19.2%
Avg Gas price:
Trump 2.49 - Biden 3.50
Avg rent
Trump +11.8% - Biden +21.6%
Groceries
Trump +6.5% - Biden +20.9%
Hourly wages:
Trump +6.8% - Biden -2.2%

not to mention the horror of illegal immigration

Verifiable stats

Let's no forget no wars and world wide stability.

I understand he's an asshole and arrogant, etc but he's not your typical ass-kissing politician who can be controlled and that's exactly why they don't want him. They never dare to compare his 4 years to the Dem's 4 years.
 

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Coming from someone who has for 8 years constantly kept track of Trump I guess you are an authority on his dealings. My point is towards people who do not follow politics and just catch the headlines which seem to coddle the Dems and post any BS about Trump. They may vote Dem not knowing the possible shit storm the Dems may cause.
What if Harris reverts back to her old ways and defends the police, all in favor of 15 min cities, goes all out with the green agenda costing trillions plus who knows what kind of crap she comes up with.
I watch American politics very closely, so I guess that makes me more informed than the average voter. And yes that includes knowledge of trump's words and actions. Most voters start to pay attention to the presidential race after Labor Day and voters generally get it right. Historically Democrat administration's are better for the American economy than Republican administrations so I'm not worried about a "shit storm" from a Harris administration. I am worried about the chaos, retribution, corruption, criminality,
right-wing extremism, and authoritarianism that will come with a second trump administration.
 

Jazzman1218

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There's no question Trump's 4 years were much better than Biden's:

inflation:
Trump 7.8% - Biden 19.2%
Avg Gas price:
Trump 2.49 - Biden 3.50
Avg rent
Trump +11.8% - Biden +21.6%
Groceries
Trump +6.5% - Biden +20.9%
Hourly wages:
Trump +6.8% - Biden -2.2%

not to mention the horror of illegal immigration

Verifiable stats

Let's no forget no wars and world wide stability.

I understand he's an asshole and arrogant, etc but he's not your typical ass-kissing politician who can be controlled and that's exactly why they don't want him. They never dare to compare his 4 years to the Dem's 4 years.
You can't blame Biden for the worldwide post covid inflation. That's the economy he inherited from trump. Whereas trump inherited a stable, low inflation economy from Obama. Trump didn't do anything to improve the economy he inherited. In fact with tax cuts for the rich and corporations and tariffs
trump made the economy worse.
 

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I watch American politics very closely, so I guess that makes me more informed than the average voter. And yes that includes knowledge of trump's words and actions. Most voters start to pay attention to the presidential race after Labor Day and voters generally get it right. Historically Democrat administration's are better for the American economy than Republican administrations so I'm not worried about a "shit storm" from a Harris administration. I am worried about the chaos, retribution, corruption, criminality,
right-wing extremism, and authoritarianism that will come with a second trump administration.

The differences between Trump and Biden administrations should take in account many uncontrolable factors inside and outside USA.
Like the COVID pandemic, Putin invasion of Ukraine, inflation isn't a USA only phenomenon.
Most americans seem to believe they're the only humans on earth.
 

Womaniser

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You can't blame Biden for the worldwide post covid inflation. That's the economy he inherited from trump. Whereas trump inherited a stable, low inflation economy from Obama. Trump didn't do anything to improve the economy he inherited. In fact with tax cuts for the rich and corporations and tariffs
trump made the economy worse.

Your explanations are much better than mine !
 
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Jazzman1218

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I can't get over how media-brainwashed some of you guys are. Just wow. It's useless to continue this thread.
I can't get over how right-wingers are always looking for simple solutions to complex problems, and how, rather than trying to understand the reasons for why things are the way they are, just want to blame Democrats. The USA will never succeed with that 'blame' and 'surface knowledge' mentality. Together, with knowledge and resolve, we can solve problems. Apart we resolve nothing. It all starts with majority rule, and hopefully that's what happens with the upcoming election.
 

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Considering the Democrats have been in power for 12 out of the last 16 years it's amazing how much damage the Republicans have done! Oh and let's not forget how Elon Musk exposed the Twitter fiasco and now Zuckerberg with FB. Oh no, we're not supposed to talk about that. Sorry.
 

Jazzman1218

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Considering the Democrats have been in power for 12 out of the last 16 years it's amazing how much damage the Republicans have done! Oh and let's not forget how Elon Musk exposed the Twitter fiasco and now Zuckerberg with FB. Oh no, we're not supposed to talk about that. Sorry.
Let's try to keep this discussion on topic and about the 2024 presidential election. If you want to argue which political party is better for the US economy, I'd be happy to have that debate.
 

TigerWould

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The answer to that question is quite obvious. Hopefully Trump's the next president and believe me, the US and the world will be better off for it. As a Canadian who has a lot invested in the US, I'm praying Kamala doesn't win. I don't give a fuck about personality. It's all business baby.
 

Womaniser

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Considering the Democrats have been in power for 12 out of the last 16 years it's amazing how much damage the Republicans have done! Oh and let's not forget how Elon Musk exposed the Twitter fiasco and now Zuckerberg with FB. Oh no, we're not supposed to talk about that. Sorry.

Perhaps you could some researchs on independant ressorces like the Concil on Foreign Relations on Obama and Trump presidencies.
It's non-partisan.
 
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Jazzman1218

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The answer to that question is quite obvious. Hopefully Trump's the next president and believe me, the US and the world will be better off for it. As a Canadian who has a lot invested in the US, I'm praying Kamala doesn't win. I don't give a fuck about personality. It's all business baby.
Then hopefully Harris and down ballot Democrats are elected to preserve American democracy. Do you understand how bad it is for business to function in a kleptocratic autocracy?
 

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I can't get over how media-brainwashed some of you guys are. Just wow. It's useless to continue this thread.
I agree completely, I’m amaze myself by how disingenuous the left is becoming, their big media are trying hard to interfere in the election in the most vilest ways day after day after day.
Die hard Lefties are so incredibly deep into the rabbit’ hole that in their mono cellular brain it’s morally acceptable to wished Donald Trump didn’t survived the assassination attempt.
Some others delusional lunatics are saying it’s Donald Trump himself that orchestrated the whole assassination to gain sympathy…
The main reason I’m more invested in this American election as a Canadian, the enemy of my enemies is my ally. Trump is at war against the big media and he despises Trudeau that’s enough for me.
I think some of us are gonna have a rude awakening in November.
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Fradi

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Around the corner
You can't blame Biden for the worldwide post covid inflation. That's the economy he inherited from trump. Whereas trump inherited a stable, low inflation economy from Obama. Trump didn't do anything to improve the economy he inherited. In fact with tax cuts for the rich and corporations and tariffs
trump made the economy worse.
So everything Trump did well he inherited from Obama.
Everything Biden fucked up he inherited from Trump.
Of course you got this from all the non biased legitimate media that glorifies the Dems and trashes Trump every chance they get.
If anything you are 100% predictable with every post.
 
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