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I would assume some of these are in countries where sex and nudity is not as taboo. I would see how these could extend from normal entertainment venues. I mean you hear some of the top electronic music clubs like Kitkat or Berghain in Berlin, it's not unusual for people to straight be having sex on the dance floor. And in Finland, apparently it's "unhygienic" to go to a sauna with clothes on and people go to mixed gender saunas. I think one of my friends said that when she was working at an accounting office in Finland, the entire office went to the sauna..together. She refused because she didn't want to see her female boss naked or the rest of the office naked. Also, I'm wondering if some of these are just girls who would accept being propositioned? In NA there are models esp amateur models who do tours shooting with photographers in various cities including boudoir and implied nude shoots, but there's a strict line in not going beyond photography or even touching them to pose them. I was talking to one Brazilian provider who had really great photographs and asked her about them. Apparently from her, a lot of photography models in Brazil are what she called "whores". I bit shocking terminology, but okay I guess.

Well Montreal unlike most strip clubs in the US apparently allow touching, and from one provider who was an ex stripper said that clubs don't control what the girls outside the club and a lot are indys. Also apparently, there are clubs where it's common to have "accidents" (actual term was French that I don't remember) in the private room. And even in MTL, I think I've definitely seen indy ads post city tour escorts, but you would have to book like 24 hours and pay thousands per social hour and escort hour.

I'm suspecting that your neighborhoods and go-go bars that you are talking about are more in Asia like Philippines or Thailand or Latin America rather than Europe. I've only heard of Germany with Pascha being a multistory brothel hotel.
Well, you're right about it in some countries where sex and nudity isn't taboo, but you'd be very surprised about what you can find in muslim countries where that taboo does exist. Indonesia has positively the biggest MPs/Brothels I've ever seen, and right inside mainstream hotels at times. Just as an example, have a look at Classic hotel in Jakarta. Look at regular images and all of the venues you see will be girl venues inside what is quite a nice hotel. If you spread that search to look for "girls" or "nightlife" maybe you'll get some more They spread across 6 floors and have facilities onsite for FS. It's all P4P. The examples you were discussing in your post refer to instances of civilian promiscuousness or tolerance, but all of the stuff I was referring to in my previous post are non-civilian, P4P environments.

Montreal strip clubs do allow touching, officially incidental, and in a cramped private booth paying for company by song. In other places you buy the girl a drink, she plops down into your lap right then and there in the showbar, hangs out with you, sticks her hand down your pants and invites you to go back with her to the full bedrooms that they have in back/upstairs/downstairs for whatever level of fun you and she both agree to. It's just a different animal.

As for size, yes, the biggest stuff is in Asia. Europe doesn't even come close in terms of size. If you were trying to walk across the famous sex section of Pattaya, for example, many people take a Baht bus from one side to the other because it's too far to walk. We're talking continuous predominantly sex oriented business here. The scope is just something that people who haven't seen that kind of thing don't understand. The FKK clubs are relatively minor players and so are the latin american and african venues. The city sizes are staggering too. Going to Jakarta or Manila or bangkok is a somewhat humbling experience in terms of sheer people if you're used to NA cities. And within all of that is pretty much anything.
 

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De toute l'Europe, quel est selon vous le meilleur endroit où vivre une expérience en ce moment ? Envisageriez-vous des destinations difficiles d'accès comme l'Ukraine ou la Russie ? Il me semble qu'un autre voyageur m'a également suggéré São Paulo, au Brésil.

Je me demande si cette phase de discussion est propre à Montréal. Ailleurs, même dans les endroits où l'on parle anglais, on passe directement à l'action. Pas de discussion avant la fin, ou alors pendant une minute. Ici, à Montréal, cette phase peut durer 30 minutes, voire plus.
Effectivement laisser tomber, grâce à une personne qui m avait écrit il ya 2 ans je suis satisfait sexuellement des services fait ailleurs je peux voyager et avoir des services pour 50$ a 150 $ ( les baiser dans toutes les positions possibles ) et elles ne sont pas grosse et sont jeune autour de 20-30 ans ... Je vais essayer Prague mais ce qui m intéresse c' est la France ou l Espagne, j aimerais me faire le maximum d arabe marocaine ou algérienne ( il y en a pas a Montréal ou le service est déplorable ) je pense donc que la population est plus grande en France. Pour ceux qui sont fan du moyen orient ( des suggestions seraient la bienvenue.
 
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I have been out of the country for ~ 7 years and just came back for a visit. It's a total disaster.

Asian agencies were a bit hit-or-miss before. But the prices were ok. Now, the prices are at, or above, market rates, yet the quality is nowhere to be seen.

Indie market on LL is complete trash, basically just all scams, and everyone who's even remotely good-looking has terrible reviews here.

Haven't tested the well-known agencies yet, but the ladies also don't look very appealing, and all reviews are mixed, if you read between the lines.

I've travelled to many countries, and I am not talking "third world"; even in the EU, the girls there are younger, fitter, more fun, and, most importantly, much cheaper. Even in Geneva, one of the most expensive places in Europe, the girls are half the price and actually provide good service, are easy to book, and host in nice places.

What happened? Is it OF driving away girls from this trade? Is it just that the economy in Canada is not so great that girls go for greener pastures? It's really puzzling.
pure and simple: This once beautiful city has gone to shit over the last 7-8 years and so has the scene