First thing you libs do is damn the source. It was in many other newspapers also, Ducon. Global Warming, Climate Change is crap. It is a tool invented by people like Al Gore who hate people and worship trees, animals, etc. Notice that they changed the name from Global Warming to Climate Change. Why? Because the earth is not getting warmer. So they invented a new word. Very 1984ish, as in George Orwell, 1984.
Your environmental footprint- what do you do?
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First thing you libs do is damn the source. It was in many other newspapers also, Ducon. Global Warming, Climate Change is crap. It is a tool invented by people like Al Gore who hate people and worship trees, animals, etc. Notice that they changed the name from Global Warming to Climate Change. Why? Because the earth is not getting warmer. So they invented a new word. Very 1984ish, as in George Orwell, 1984.
Little Things
Almost a year ago I moved to a small rural community. Little things make a difference. Walking 10-15 minutes to do the grocery shopping. Using an old traditional lawn mower instead of a power mower. Shoveling snow instead of a snowblower. Good insolation. Composting,etc.
Almost a year ago I moved to a small rural community. Little things make a difference. Walking 10-15 minutes to do the grocery shopping. Using an old traditional lawn mower instead of a power mower. Shoveling snow instead of a snowblower. Good insolation. Composting,etc.
If i drive my 500hp sports car around, that burns gas like a Mofo, does that mean mother earth is mad at me? Hey, I only bought the car, i did not build it. I keep the heat at around 60 in the winter when not home, but crank it to 80 when i am and its freezing outside! (hey, i "pay" for it when the bill comes) 
I do buy organic produce (when it is on sale) :thumb:
I do buy organic produce (when it is on sale) :thumb:
Why don't you voluntarily give up your job to save the planet? Maybe others will see this and quit their jobs to. Than you can lead them out to the forest to gather nuts and berries and drink herbal tea? Oh and while you’re out gathering berries have a bull dyke with clipped hair and glasses lead the group of berry pickers with protest songs while playing accoustic guitar.
I love the environment but I am more worried about the deficit and the economy. The polar bears (who are thriving btw) are on their own for now.
This is what I'm talking about. Right now I'm slowly cancelling all of my paper magazines in favor of digital formats. Why not just do it all at once? Simple, I love just slowly flipping though an issue finding interesting things to look at. I start to read a paragraph or two, then get interested enough the read the entire article. Didgital format requires some retaining, so I do it slowly and less painfully.
BTW - They grow trees like they grow corn so dont feel bad about buying a magazine. Also, paper can be recycled. this industry does probably a better job than any other of recycling and reusing the fiber to make new paper.
If it werent for the paper mills we wold not have as many trees in NA today. They planted them. they have an incentive to do so.
Here are a few of the things I am trying t do to reduce my hobby foot print:
1. Look for local surces of SP’s. I recently found out that in the big city I grew up in the nudey bars are now offering GFE full service in the back room. With unemployment approaching 10%, men are not willing to blow 200$ on strippers anymore unless they provide GFE full service. The strippers are now willing to provide sex because this is the only skill they have that anyone is willing to pay for. This can cut down on your trips to Montreal or any other hobby destination saving jet fuel and gas.
2. Order two girls at a time or have longer sessions. This will cut down on the unnecessary agency driver’s traffic which wastes fuel and wears out tires. For example, for a long weekend, instead of seeing 6 different girls for one hour each you have three 3-sums or three 2-hour appointments.
3. Take Cialis instead of Viagra. Cialis lasts 24 hours while Viagra last only 1-hour or 2. This can save on packaging and raw materials used to make pharmaceuticals.
4. Take a shower with the SP after the date. I love this about Montreal anyway but why not save water if to can shower with the water normally used for one?
5. Insist that your SP’s where lingerie made of 100% hemp. This is much better than using fossil fuels to make synthetic fibers such as lycra and polyesters and nylons that are traditionally used for lingerie.
6. Condoms…Are you sure that condom is no longer good? Why not try filling it with water in the sink? If it holds water it will still hold jizz. Try to get two session out of these.....no wait. Save all used condoms and take them to th recycling centers where they can be melted down and used to make sex toys for the SPs.
7. STDs - If you hobby long enough you will eventually run into an STD. Why use modern medicine and contribute to big pharma and hospitals which are both energy wasters. Instead first try a homeopathic remedies used by native Americans such as a herbal teas derived from birch bark our a natural sauve made from root and berries and tree sap.
8. Cruise for streetwalkers using public transportation
9. My after session meal now consists of a tofu burger and herbal tea instead of a Jimmy Dean special bacon cheese burger with a diet coke.
It takes a lot of energy to farm trees and convert it to paper. Didgital products can deliver info faster and cheaper. That being said, a great book's experience is partially tactile. So not everything can be condensed into one general definition. The postal system is of great concern as they now live off junk mail. A great deal of snail mail has disappeared and the package delivery business is not there biggest success. Again both liberals and conservatives here are going to fuck up any solution. They don't seem to be able to understand the theory of a quasi-govermental utility.
CSM
You are leading up to on line billing, banking, government remittances etc which are ecologically advantageous - tons of paper = trees saved and have the added virtue of saving time.
Conversely when dealing with governments and their agencies or services I question whether the savings are a net benefit. With various forms of job security, government jobs are not reduced as a result. The bureaucrats at the various levels of government are shuffled from department to department or project to project with the resulting cost of retraining etc which is of no net benefit to the taxpayer - just sustainable and repeated waste.
You are leading up to on line billing, banking, government remittances etc which are ecologically advantageous - tons of paper = trees saved and have the added virtue of saving time.
Conversely when dealing with governments and their agencies or services I question whether the savings are a net benefit. With various forms of job security, government jobs are not reduced as a result. The bureaucrats at the various levels of government are shuffled from department to department or project to project with the resulting cost of retraining etc which is of no net benefit to the taxpayer - just sustainable and repeated waste.
EE,
This is one of the very few times you're absolutely incorrect. What I was referring to was the Florida Version of the Public Service Commission. In Florida various forms of necessary services are held in many forms: Cooperatives, private corporations and municipal corporations. All are subject the oversight of the Florida Public Service Commission: http://www.psc.state.fl.us/ Basically, utilites of all types are overseen and responsible to this entity. Not owned or governed, but overseen so levels of service, price, future planning, disaster preparations and certain operational details. This system IMHO has kept these untilites functioning at a reasonable level of cost vs. service. I've come to believe that all NECCESARY "services" of importance to the public should be handled in this fashion. The US Postal Service could benefit from this approach. Divide into districts run privately on a franchise basis, to be overseen by a blend of appointed and elected commissions. This is quasi what is already occuring with certain partnerships between US Postal, Fedex, UPS and airlines. The real issue is US Postal legacy problems and legacy bueracracy. It's a truly sad state of affairs.
As a Floridian who's witnessed them in action over the decades, I'm quite proud of their overall track record. Now to get the hobby legalized in Florida and appoint me to the oversight commission....:thumb::lol:
Far From Accurate
CSM
If the system you describe was truly efficient and applicable across 50 states then the recent US budget crises would have been less severe.
Focusing on two examples from the Montreal area.
Transportation. The infrastructure in the Montreal area is in dire need of repair.
No need to cite chapter and verse about collapsing roads, traffic delays and the resulting increase in pollution, costs,wastage, etc. On the other hand there are two existing rail lines on the Island of Montreal that have been underused for approx. 40 years with minimal rail traffic - north tracks along Industrial from the old Jean Talon station heading east off island and the south tracks from the Angus Shops area along the waterfront.Adapted to commuter use, traffic and pollution issues would have been eased years ago.
Education. All the school boards are running huge deficits, rife with mismanagement and waste. Since 1999 the biggest Montreal public school board has a policy of not selling unused schools. These are rented for non-educational purposes, basically at cost.
Why? If the building is sold it eventually gets into the private school system. Can't help the competition. Have to protect the unionized teaching and blue collar jobs. Yet these buildings have to be heated while serving purposes outside their prime vocation = more wastage, etc..
BTW I'm pretty sure that Florida has under used railway tracks and is not close to 100% efficieny when it comes to public transit.
CSM
If the system you describe was truly efficient and applicable across 50 states then the recent US budget crises would have been less severe.
Focusing on two examples from the Montreal area.
Transportation. The infrastructure in the Montreal area is in dire need of repair.
No need to cite chapter and verse about collapsing roads, traffic delays and the resulting increase in pollution, costs,wastage, etc. On the other hand there are two existing rail lines on the Island of Montreal that have been underused for approx. 40 years with minimal rail traffic - north tracks along Industrial from the old Jean Talon station heading east off island and the south tracks from the Angus Shops area along the waterfront.Adapted to commuter use, traffic and pollution issues would have been eased years ago.
Education. All the school boards are running huge deficits, rife with mismanagement and waste. Since 1999 the biggest Montreal public school board has a policy of not selling unused schools. These are rented for non-educational purposes, basically at cost.
Why? If the building is sold it eventually gets into the private school system. Can't help the competition. Have to protect the unionized teaching and blue collar jobs. Yet these buildings have to be heated while serving purposes outside their prime vocation = more wastage, etc..
BTW I'm pretty sure that Florida has under used railway tracks and is not close to 100% efficieny when it comes to public transit.
The PSC can't control or mandate whether business or the public use a particular "utility". And let's face it railways in the US have fallen out of favor as the major form of transit. That being said, an examination of most things the PSC governs reveals a generally well managed system. But we're going a little off course here into macro-economics and politics. This thread is more about micro-economics as it relates personally to the environment.
BTW, I totally agree. But the PSC applies only to the State of Florida. While an exact model applied across the US would be unworkable, the model bears serious review. The website, like the commission itself, reveals a stark, business like, no frills operationally efficient organization. Bottom line, it works. The theory is that any service, where the public has a compelling day to day necessary interest, should be subject to this type of government oversight. Now for all of those posters who've long ago labeled my a conservative right winger, you should rethink your perspective. I'm actually advocating government oversight of certain portions of the economy. The free market deregulated position is not universally effective. The fact is that the PSC model would seem to be a better answer to health care.
CSM
Appreciate the distinction between micro and macro economics. My concern, as illustrated by the transportation and education examples in the greater Montreal area is twofold.
The savings that are generated at the micro level by various citizens doing their part are not supported by similar actions at higher levels by bureaucrats and unions who are not willing to to contribute from their rice bowl.
By focusing strictly on the micro level we may in fact be enabling waste at the higher levels. Yes we are being penny wise but our vigilance does not extend to being dollar wise. Letting the dollars slip away while saving pennies has to be addressed at some point.
Appreciate the distinction between micro and macro economics. My concern, as illustrated by the transportation and education examples in the greater Montreal area is twofold.
The savings that are generated at the micro level by various citizens doing their part are not supported by similar actions at higher levels by bureaucrats and unions who are not willing to to contribute from their rice bowl.
By focusing strictly on the micro level we may in fact be enabling waste at the higher levels. Yes we are being penny wise but our vigilance does not extend to being dollar wise. Letting the dollars slip away while saving pennies has to be addressed at some point.
The corruption in US Government makes any Macro thoughts obsolete. In the past year I've experienced outright lawlessness at FNMA, SSA, FBI, IRS & HUD. Best strategy is no longer patriotic, but rather avoidance of the government and failing that "work the system". Yes, "Change, I used to believe in":lol:
Yes, one of my favorites is when a soccermom starts tailgating me with her ear in a cell phone. I just keep slowing down incrementally, laughing my ass off. What??!!!, I'm just adjusting my speed to match that one car length rule....What??!! No really....:lol: In a rear end dual between my ladder framed 4Runner and her mini-van, who do you think does better?
CSM,
Good way to meet Soccer Moms.
I target the bureaucrats and unions. City wants reports on potholes or garbage in lane ways. They get them. Bus drivers using cell phones while driving - used to know the number by heart when living in Montreal. You get the drift.
Good way to meet Soccer Moms.
I target the bureaucrats and unions. City wants reports on potholes or garbage in lane ways. They get them. Bus drivers using cell phones while driving - used to know the number by heart when living in Montreal. You get the drift.
Hey guys ! 'there isn't any global warming ! It's all fake.
Saddam was linked to BLD and it was a good decision to start a war on a lie.'
The Bermuda triangle exist and 2012 will be the end of the world.
Elvis is alive so does Santa and the world was created in 7 days....
Anyway it all comes down to what CS is talking about into.. making personnal changes... and like I said it's good but it wont matter unless the whole world goes in the same direction simply because more than half of the population are living in emerging economies.
It can matter to you but it won't matter much for the whole world.
As the prices on LED's appear to be sliding, I've purchased my very first on Amazon the other day. While I use CFLs for most of my lighting, a few spot lights and a living room fixture were still running the old incandescent lighting. Replaced on spotlight and found it really did the job. The cost is still to high to make any real sense, the upgrade accomplished its goals nicely.
