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    Demographics of pro/anti prostitution?

    I'm wondering if this exists. What age range/ gender/ political view/ religious view/ region support or fight against prostitution.

    One would think that older/ more conservative / westerner is kinda against prostitution. But there is a difference between what a party line says, what a politician says to be politically-correct and what one thinks.

    Any data also about the "don't care" group? This group is usually a majority. This is what Trudeau bet on with weed.

    Anyone knows any empirical data on this?

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    I see no correlation with age anymore... These past few years we seen a rise of right-wing conservatism hence why there are more strict anti-prostitution laws now then say 30 years ago.
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    You should read this long dissertation and see if she quantified her research by Province or region.

    https://ir.lib.uwo.ca/cgi/viewconten...4&context=mslp

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    Interesting read indeed. However she did not conduct any empirical research. She mostly reviewed other's findings to support her argument.

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    I never see stats about demographics of pro/anti prostitution, so my opinion is pure speculation. I don't believe that there is a link with age and puritanism. I often met 20-year-old young people who were more judgemental and moralist than my grandfather.

    Moreover, that brings me to another question....Is society more open about sex work in 2018 ? We evolved a lot about gender, sexual orientation, kink and BDSM, but can we say the same thing about escorts? I don't think so.

    On the contrary, I have the impression that we are living a moral and legal regression. If we look at the past, in the Middle Ages, sex workers ware part of the society, and they had even official guilds. In different periods and various countries as in France of Balzac, the courtesans had good reputation.

    If Montreal got it's place on an international scale, it is partially because of her famous redlight district : strippers, courtesans and jazz cabarets made the city at the 20 ème century. Moreover, it is incredible to see how the newspapers of the time were more liberal about sex work. And now, it's forbidden to post escort ad in the newspaper.

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    You'll be interested in reading [the link below and have a look at the 2011 poll (link in the article) in which responses are given by gender, age and province. I remember seeing one that gave responses by political affiliation. Can't find it for now. I would suggest taking a lot of precaution in interpreting the results. Prostitution is something of no interest for most people and it's something they know nothing about. Also, if you analyse the polls very closely, you'll find out that the responses vary considerably with the wording of the questions.

    http://angusreid.org/canadians-remai...-prostitution/

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLOUD 500 View Post
    I see no correlation with age anymore... These past few years we seen a rise of right-wing conservatism hence why there are more strict anti-prostitution laws now then say 30 years ago.
    Their reasoning is "Hey I am not getting any sex so no one will!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabrielle Laliberté View Post
    Moreover, that brings me to another question....Is society more open about sex work in 2018 ? We evolved a lot about gender, sexual orientation, kink and BDSM, but can we say the same thing about escorts? I don't think so.
    To a certain extent, society is more open. I'm not on Twitter but I see many escorts that openly advertise their Twitter handles and such. In the past, you'd have to be specifically looking for an escort-- which is how I found them. Now you can theoretically meet one because social media planted the idea first. Never thought I'd see that day.

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    Gugu, thanks! Very interesting!

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    https://nypost.com/2018/08/03/pretty...ng-ugly-truths

    I think most women in the U.S., whether conservative or liberal, are dead set against prostitution, especially when they read articles like above.

    "According to the State Department, 60 percent to 75 percent of prostitutes in nine countries it looked at had been raped, 70 percent to 95 percent had been assaulted and 68 percent had post-traumatic stress disorder."

    If they read articles like this, they will be forever against prostitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLOUD 500 View Post
    I see no correlation with age anymore... These past few years we seen a rise of right-wing conservatism hence why there are more strict anti-prostitution laws now then say 30 years ago.
    Its funny in a way. I am very conservative/rightwing in some topics (immigration, traditions) while being completely "left wing/liberals" for others like prostitution, porn and just a plain big FU to religion. Plus i am super anti guns when it comes to US laws.

    Some peoples says i am a walking contradiction... but the facts are, there is nothing completely right or wrong...

    There is good in everything and there is bad in everything... Ying in a Yang and Yang in a Ying, thats how i see it.
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    HM - I'm with you on that. Your views are quite normal. It's funny, I work with alot of very liberal women who say that a woman has the right to do with her body as she wants, except for prostitution because that is just male exploitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloween Mike View Post
    Its funny in a way. I am very conservative/rightwing in some topics (immigration, traditions) while being completely "left wing/liberals" for others like prostitution, porn and just a plain big FU to religion.
    That's pretty common. You want what you want.

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    I wonder about methodology and bias when they conduct such research about abuse. Women who have been raped are likely to say it during their research because its a shame on the rapers. However women who do it willingly and consensually would not be inclined to say it since it's a shame on them.

    And, as someone would say, it may also be fake news....

    It's certainly not representative of the SPs I've met, although I will agree I'm not into street girls...

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    The people on this board, who are in fact prostitutes and johns, know quite a bit about the subject.

    But look what the majority of people hear from educated people, including a damn senator who says the abduction of Mollie Tibbetts might be human trafficking:

    http://carrollspaper.com/Content/Loc...case/1/1/27013

    Other articles note how many ordinary citizens believe this and “re-tweet” about it, before trying to explain that such thinking is nonsense (unlike the Senator).

    https://babe.net/2018/07/30/sex-trafficking-iowa-73865

    If sex trafficking exists in Iowa it is likely the existence of illegal immigrant hispanic women who are living amongst large groups of illegal alien farm workers who would have insufficient wealth to purchase sec from a willing sex worker. It may or may not exist, but it is the one area that really can’t be studied due to the government’s treatment of our many illegal immigrants. We simply don’t know how things work, but we know damn sure they don’t kidnap beautiful brunettes college coeds and have them live in their community, nor do truck drivers do this and have them ride shotgun on long trips. But a lot of people middle America believe this.

    And it is mostly the media causing it. When Natalie Holloway disappeared, Nancy Grace said not enough attention was being placed on the brothels of Aruba and the two surrounding islands and of other islands such as St. Martain and Curaçao, now we know how ridiculous this is. Those places have a waiting list of women to work there from all over South America (for the naive, the looks and services are mediocre compared to Montreal and the source countries such as Colombia where the ladies come from). But instead of understanding that these are free, legal brothels where the women compete to work, move freely about, and even go on check-out dates with customers to to the beaches and hotels, Nancy Grace tries to convince her viewers that the women are tied up and imprisoned, and some customer might discover that the white one ties up on the far left is Natalie Holloway.

    Difficult for ordinary people in the US to formulate realistic opinions about this subject with the untrue and inflammatory rhetoric from the media and from politicians. From a safety standpoint, A U.S. John is better off getting the most independent expensive escort who can afford who works independently and screens. They get largely left alone by law enforcement because they don’t fit into the trafficking nonsense propaganda that rears its head whenever an election, a major sports event, or a human tragedy like the disappearance of a beautiful college girl occurs.

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