View Poll Results: What is the best way to handle the donation?

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  • The SP takes the envelop and doesn't count the money

    11 16.18%
  • The SP counts the money in front of you

    29 42.65%
  • The SP goes to the bathroom to count the money

    3 4.41%
  • I don't really care

    25 36.76%
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Thread: What is the best way to handle the "donation"

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    What is the best way to handle the "donation"

    Karma's thread had me wondering about something...

    According to you, dear hobbyists, what is the best way to handle the money you give us?

    Now, I know some of you prefer to pay at the end of the date but I won't talk about this in my poll (you are of course welcome to mention it in this thread, though) because to me, there is absolutely no doubt that the money should be given at the beginning of the date.

    What I want to know is this : do you prefer when the SP doesn't count your money at all, counts it in front of you or discreetly goes to the bathroom to count it?

    As Karma mentionned, sometimes there is money missing so in my opinion, it's almost necessary for us to count it.

    But as Ben said, if the SP goes to the bathroom to count it, how will you know she didn't try to steal from you if she comes back saying there is money missing?

    To me, the best way to do it is to count the money in front of the client. I would like to know how you feel about this and why some of you are so offended by it.
    Last edited by La Femme; 01-21-2008 at 03:21 PM.

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    In all the years, I've only once been asked to pay up front. I understand that there are some untrustworthy dudes out there, but being asked up front does blow the mood. That said, I unquestioningly did as she asked. It sort of blew the mood, but only temporarily.

    As for where she counts it and if she does so at all, that's her business, not mine. More often than not, my dates have simply taken the stack and put it away uncounted, but I certainly am not offended when they count it.

    To my mind, the best and most respectful way to do it is to turn away slightly and count it somewhat out of view.
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  3. #3

    Excellent Question!

    I have had mostly clients who have been
    honest with me and respectful and good
    most of the time.

    Unfortunately there are the bad apple's

    I had a guy paying me with fake cash, my fault i should had examen
    the cash right the way, this is a learning experience.

    Another guy tried to pay me with fake money but his hands were shaking
    nervously ( his insecure body language forced me to take a deeper look )
    then the money was fake, and i had time to get rid of him without futher problens.

    I had this one jerk guy, ( he was my regular client ). I was dumme enough to serve him
    excellent amarone valpolicella wine and he left without paying me.This last experience taught me never agaim be too nice to some people.

    Some guys 1 out of 100 fell bad about paying those you have to charge upfront then they are all happy in the end and there is less tension.

    I've learned very fast which one's needs to be charge upfront.

    But mostly are honest and if i give them a great service they tip me and
    are super nice to me every visite.

    Fortunately the bad apple's are rare!
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by rumpleforeskiin
    In all the years, I've only once been asked to pay up front. I understand that there are some untrustworthy dudes out there, but being asked up front does blow the mood. That said, I unquestioningly did as she asked. It sort of blew the mood, but only temporarily.

    As for where she counts it and if she does so at all, that's her business, not mine. More often than not, my dates have simply taken the stack and put it away uncounted, but I certainly am not offended when they count it.

    To my mind, the best and most respectful way to do it is to turn away slightly and count it somewhat out of view.
    But what if it was previously agreed that you would pay her upfront? Would it still ruin the mood?

    (Of course, this kind of agreement can only happen with indies since you get the chance to exchange emails with them before the encounter)

  5. #5

    What I do.

    I think that what I do is best. (surprise, surprise)

    I leave the full payment fanned out on a table or desk in plain site. This way the lady can see that I have the money and that it is all there.

    There is no point in having the woman spend the session worried that she might not get paid. If you intend on paying her (and I assume you do), then you should pay her at the beginning.

    I really can't understand why men would object to paying up front or having the money counted in front of them. Since there is no credit check being done on the men who call an escort service and there is also no way for the woman to sue if she doesn't get paid, then it is reasonable enough to pay her in advance. Also, if she doesn't perform, he can always complain to the agency and, with most agencies, they will try to make it up to you.

    The worst thing for a woman to do is to count the money in the washroom. Either count it in front of the man or don't count it at all. It would be like a store clerk calling me at home to say that I didn't pay enough when I left the store. Or me calling a store and saying they didn't give me enough change when I paid. You need to count it immediately and when both people are present.
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by freedom3
    I think that what I do is best. (surprise, surprise)

    I leave the full payment fanned out on a table or desk in plain site. This way the lady can see that I have the money and that it is all there.

    There is no point in having the woman spend the session worried that she might not get paid. If you intend on paying her (and I assume you do), then you should pay her at the beginning.

    I really can't understand why men would object to paying up front or having the money counted in front of them. Since there is no credit check being done on the men who call an escort service and there is also no way for the woman to sue if she doesn't get paid, then it is reasonable enough to pay her in advance. Also, if she doesn't perform, he can always complain to the agency and, with most agencies, they will try to make it up to you.

    The worst thing for a woman to do is to count the money in the washroom. Either count it in front of the man or don't count it at all. It would be like a store clerk calling me at home to say that I didn't pay enough when I left the store. Or me calling a store and saying they didn't give me enough change when I paid. You need to count it immediately and when both people are present.
    I agree with your whole post.

    I couldn't have said it better!

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    Business

    It's a business transaction so trust by verify. Laying out the cash is a good example. Or counting at a slight angle...not in front of client.
    Many of them got burned with fake and not enough$$

    H

  8. #8

    Smile Win - win

    I like to place the money in an open envelope in plain view. If she asks "May I look?" I have no problem with that as long as the envelope is left there until the end of the session. At that point when she picks up the envelope it is the right time to tip if that is warranted. I recall the discussion some time ago about the sp who put the envelope into her purse and suddenly remembered she left something in the car. Well of course! You just pop right down there and get it. Right! Thank goodness it is a very small minority but why not keep everyone's mind at ease.
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  9. #9
    I made the mistake of giving an SP an envelope and then she went into a store and never came back. But I'd known her a long time so I thought WTF. She'll impress her pimp.

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    Make it simple

    I believe I make it simple and less awkward for everyone. The money is in plain view and fanned out when she enters. I only use large denomination bills ($50, $100) Its there and easily counted (visually or otherwise).

    The only interesting fact is if she will take possession of the cash right there and then or at the end of the encounter. You probably can't deduct any significant facts about this since everyone has had different experiences, especially lady companions, but still interesting to see her trust in you or lack thereof.

    NOTE: Only well reviewed agencies or Indies gets my business so risks are limited.
    Last edited by Justforfun; 01-21-2008 at 06:06 PM.
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  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Equanimity
    I agree with the whole post. I would add that I try to have $100 bills so it is easy for them to count at a glance ( I get them because I go mainly HDH and I hate going around with a huge wad of cash).

    If I've seen someone a couple of times I just leave it in a pile on the desk in plain site.
    This little detail is a very nice thought.

  12. #12

    Trust

    A certain amount of trust is required by both parties. Regular Guy and Justforfun have the right idea. Show them the money. Ask the SP to count it (in front of you). As for letting them put it away or keeping it there either is ok. I don't think it kills the mood to take care of the money up front. It's more of a mood killer afterward if there is fake money or a shortage of the exact amount. As for the tip, that definitely depends on the service.
    Last edited by john_eh_mcduff; 01-21-2008 at 07:04 PM.

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by My_dingaling
    Personally, I can stand it when anyone I pay in cash, SP or handyman or whoever, counts the money in front of me.
    It's telling me they don't believe I can count or that they think I may have shorted them... either way, I'm offended.
    So far, I can't recall a single SP who counted in front of me.

    Last fall, I came home and had what I thought was an extra $20 in my pocket so I called the SP to find out if I did make a mistake and she said she was whole.
    Ok, let's follow your logic here...

    When you go to the grocery store, are you offended when the cashier counts the money you owe her??

    Come on! Anyone can make a mistake. Plus, how are we suppose to know we can trust you when we don't even know you? We usually don't have our crystal ball with us!

    P.S. Merci d'avoir accepté mon invitation à participer au thread et ce même si je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi.

  14. #14
    After reading this thread and others in the non-sexy thread, I plan to count the money with the SP after a brief hello & introduction. I cannot understand how this would offend the SP, and I would rather have her comfortable to be able to turn all her attention to me & not on her thinking if I am good for the money. If for some reason I use a new agency, I might leave the envelope with the money in it on the counter & not give it to her. If for any reason the SP has to leave my room during my session, the money stays with me.

    As far as counting the money when she first gets there, it doesn't bother me at all. I think it would be better to do it in front of me, so we both know that either one of us is trying to rip the other one off.

  15. #15
    I don't like to have the money counted at the start, it does kill the mood a bit for me (even if I totally understand the transaction aspects).
    I leave the money in an enveloppe, on a table next to the bed, in such a way that the lady can see there is either a pile of bills or something pointing to large/ sufficient sum ($50 bills).
    I am not offended if the girl counts or looks at the end, though. I even am the one to offer the enveloppe if I feel she may be forgetting once she is dressed. I guess I am very trusting so had not thought about the SP going to the bathroom with the enveloppe uncounted, I will be carefull about that.

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