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    Apple releases iPad...

    Well Apple has released it's newest device. Here's a video of an upcoming advertisement for the new product:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eF0y...layer_embedded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techman View Post
    Well Apple has released it's newest device. Here's a video of an upcoming advertisement for the new product:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eF0y...layer_embedded

    Bwahahahahahahahaha,

    Now THAT's muscle control. Just imagine the possibilities with a woman who can key 120 words a minute and surf the web like this.

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    Other reactions to the iPad are coming in...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnT0zp8Ya4
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    so it's a $500 netbook

    pass, for me

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    The only problem I see with it is that they won't be able to make them fast enough to keep up with the demand. Steve Jobs does it again.

    Anybody calling this "a $500 netbook" probably can't distinguish a Ford Fiesta from a Mercedes. Steve Jobs has never been afraid to charge more for what he sells; when you make a better product, enough people will buy it.

    The only question for me is whether to get the maxIpad or the minIpad.
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    it's a tablet PC

    how successful have those been?

    oh yeah, i forgot, the lemmings who buy overpriced Apple crap because of the hype

    1 GHz processor, no multi-task, no built-in keyboard, and a contract with AT&T and their crappy coverage

    if you like reading some cheap novel, sure go ahead and get one

    sorry, didn't know what an important function that was
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    Techman,

    Thank you for the 2 links : I did have a nice smile with the first (Are they the descendants of Nostradamus or what???..... hahaha... (but just had I always find the pad and other ads for period products so false showing soooo happy women to be in their week... )...

    ....and I was really surprised to see one of my preferred movie used to show all the weakness of the new Apple gadget. ("Der untergang", german movie rated 18 years old about the last moment of Hitler...)

    Have a nice day, thank you for the smile...

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    Unfortunately for Apple, it's not a 500 buck netbook. At least a netbook runs a full operating system, whatever real programs you want to install, multitasks, has USB connectivity, integrated webcam, a real keyboard, etc...

    The iPod has none of these abilities, in fact it's just an iPod Touch for the Jolly Green Giant. It's hardly the 'magical, revolutionary' device that Jobs makes it out to be. Of course that won't stop the brainwashed Mac fans from buying one in droves.

    Now this is a machine that I consider to be revolutionary...the Lenovo Ideapad U1:
    http://www.gizmag.com/lenovo-ideapad...-tablet/13783/

    This is a real computer that runs Windows 7 when the tablet/screen is in place, and the removable tablet section runs a customized version of Linux, and it can multitask and has a built in web cam. When the screen is in it's base unit, the two operating systems will sync their data. This will sell for around 1000 US which is about 50 bucks more than the top of the line iPad with the keyboard dock.

    The iPad is just another way for Jobs to get his user base to spend more money at the Apple Apps store which is the only place you can buy any programs for it. No thanks. I prefer to have freedom of choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bond_james_bond View Post
    it's a tablet PC

    how successful have those been?

    oh yeah, i forgot, the lemmings who buy overpriced Apple crap because of the hype

    1 GHz processor, no multi-task, no built-in keyboard, and a contract with AT&T and their crappy coverage

    if you like reading some cheap novel, sure go ahead and get one

    sorry, didn't know what an important function that was

    Yeah... you sound like the people who laughed at the iphone.

    I beg to differ. Do you how many Kindles Amazon already sold for $399 or $299? ALL a kindle can do is read books and newspapers etc... This thing can do hundreds of thousands of other things. Who cares if you can't run multiple apps, it's probably just a couple future OS upgrades away anyway... Switching from one app to another on the iphone OS is so much faster than windows. From the moment you think of something you want to do, you will already be finished doing it with an iPad before a normal laptop or netbook is even finished booting up.

    When I get one, I'm not going to replace my laptop with it. When I need to crunch numbers or write a 30 page report, I will still use my laptop. When I want to read, play games, watch video, browse the web, and do "fun" stuff, I will use an iPad. When I fly, I'll just slide it into my laptop case and it will be way easier to use on the plane. How can you compare this screen to any netbook? It doesn't compare.

    As a correction to your post, AT&T will be offering "no - contract" 3G access, I believe starting at $15/month. Pay as you go... and I am sure we will have the same thing here in Canada.

    Reminds me of all the people who laughed at digital photography a few years back, like the rocket scientists who used to run a little company called Kodak. Why would anyone want this? The quality is so low... it doesn't do this and it doesn't do that... oops.

    Kodak, which released earnings this week, and has smartened up quite a bit since 2004, currently employs a similar number of people as they did during the 1930s.

    So laugh at the iPad. You're not alone and many people will join you.... But, please be sure to check back in here in 3 years for an update.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Techman View Post
    The iPad is just another way for Jobs to get his user base to spend more money at the Apple Apps store which is the only place you can buy any programs for it. No thanks. I prefer to have freedom of choice.
    I believe Microsoft spent BILLIONS of dollars on legal fees over a decade of antitrust battles in the US and Europe in order to PREVENT you from having freedom of choice (such as the ability to use other browsers other than IE). Of course, they lost, but apparently you're still happy to be part of that user base and spend more money there will Bill and company.

    Ironically, Jobs has delivered freedom of choice to many people in other ways. Remember, not so long ago, you had to buy the whole album even though you didn't like most of the songs, in order to get the one or two songs you wanted? Well, itunes solved that problem and now you get the song for $0.99, not $15.95. Doesn't it suck that most people have to pay a big monthly fee to cable or sattelite companies who "control the airwaves" -- even if you just want to watch football games on Sunday, or those one or two shows you like. That's going to change next.

    I should also point out that anyone can develop software for the ipad (or iphone). So really, it's just a question of adoption... Companies who make software for PCs can adapt it the the apple devices if they want to... Nothing is stopping them.

    I don't really get how the App store is limiting your freedom of choice by only offering one place to buy apps. If the same apps were available to download from Walmart.com for $0.89 vs. $0.99 would that make such a big difference?

    I love that apple is big enough now to be "evil".... irony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techman View Post
    Well Apple has released it's newest device. [/URL]

    Probably a diminutive of ...

    MaxiPad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techman View Post
    Now this is a machine that I consider to be revolutionary...the Lenovo Ideapad U1:
    http://www.gizmag.com/lenovo-ideapad...-tablet/13783/
    this is the evolution of the laptop.docking.station concept. pretty sweet!
    Last edited by johnmbot; 01-29-2010 at 05:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Dover View Post
    I believe Microsoft spent BILLIONS of dollars on legal fees over a decade of antitrust battles in the US and Europe in order to PREVENT you from having freedom of choice (such as the ability to use other browsers other than IE). Of course, they lost, but apparently you're still happy to be part of that user base and spend more money there will Bill and company.

    Ironically, Jobs has delivered freedom of choice to many people in other ways. Remember, not so long ago, you had to buy the whole album even though you didn't like most of the songs, in order to get the one or two songs you wanted? Well, itunes solved that problem and now you get the song for $0.99, not $15.95. Doesn't it suck that most people have to pay a big monthly fee to cable or sattelite companies who "control the airwaves" -- even if you just want to watch football games on Sunday, or those one or two shows you like. That's going to change next.

    I should also point out that anyone can develop software for the ipad (or iphone). So really, it's just a question of adoption... Companies who make software for PCs can adapt it the the apple devices if they want to... Nothing is stopping them.

    I don't really get how the App store is limiting your freedom of choice by only offering one place to buy apps. If the same apps were available to download from Walmart.com for $0.89 vs. $0.99 would that make such a big difference?

    I love that apple is big enough now to be "evil".... irony.

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    First of all, Microsoft has never prevented any software from being installed under Windows by an end user. Not a browser, email client, photo editing program, text editor, or any other type of software that you could possibly name. You should check your facts before making any claims. Personally, the only Microsoft software on my system is Windows 7 and Office 2010. All my other software is from whatever company makes the program that I feel does the best job for my purposes. And guess what? None of them were prevented from installing by Microsoft.

    As for iTunes, it didn't solve any problem. All it did was take advantage of a situation that had already developed on the net of people downloading music for free using the infamous Napster. Until recently, all music downloaded via iTunes could only be played on an iPod due to DRM. That's not exactly freedom. Now you mention video programming...which will only be available to those willing to buy Apple hardware at the usual inflated Apple prices. I do not have either cable or sattelite. I get my HD programming with an OTA antenna which gives me all the programming that interests me... the three major US networks plus Fox, CW, CBC, 7 PBS channels in digital - 2 in HD, as well as the local analog broadcast of CTV. And it's all 100% free. And that isn't about to change.

    Now as for programmers being able to program what they want for the iPad, yes they can. As long as they are willing to sell it through the Apple apps store and give Apple their 30% cut. they can't program for Apple iPod, iPhone or iPad and sell it directly like all other software developers do for both the PC and Mac platforms. Apple prevents them from doing so.

    You want to know what the big deal is? OK...would you buy a car if you could only have it serviced, buy accessories and buy your gasoline, at whatever inflated price they decide to charge, from the company that built your car? Would you buy a television if you could only buy your programming from the same company and only the programming that was approved by that company? Well that's what you get when you buy into the Apple iP** ecosystem.

    For some of your other points...no backlit LED, LCD or even a CRT can compare with a Kindle for reading. Kindle uses something called electronic ink or e-ink for short. It greatly reduces eyestrain and you can read for extended periods of time with no problem, something you cannot do with even the best OLED display on a handheld device.

    For watching video, the iPad is outdated due to the fact that it's display is a 4X3 form factor, not a 16X9 widescreen which is standard for watching wide screen movies. If you plan on playing web based games or watching webpage based video, you're also out of luck because the iP** devices do not support Flash and will not for the foreseeable future due to a disagreement between Adobe and Apple which has also led to a lack of any 64 bit software from Adobe, such as Photoshop, being released for the Mac platform.

    And the lack of multitasking will not be addressed by a simple software upgrade because the custom procesor that Apple has developed for the iPad is not able to multitask.

    The most important omissions are that of a webcam, no onboard USB ports - so you can't directly upload pictures from a digital camera or any other device such as a USB flash drive, connect additional storage capacity or even connect a printer of any kind. And to me one of the worst ommissions is the lack of handwriting recognition, a standard funnction of any tablet device, which would have been a great function for students to use for taking notes or making notations in textbooks.

    It's entirely possible that some or even all of these things will be addressed in a future version of the iPad. But as it stands now, the device is light years away from the "magical and revolutionary" piece of technology that Jobs claims it is. All it is, is a jumbo iPod Touch. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Dover View Post
    Yeah... you sound like the people who laughed at the iphone...
    I mostly agree with you. I am a person who values open platforms and open source software. Also, I consider Apple to be the most evil IT company. So far, so bad . On the other hand, I think that Apple is the only company who is able to come up with some technological gems and market them very well. I bought a few crappy MP3/video players before taking the plunge and buying an iPod. My first week with this device was a wow experience. I use my iPod everyday mainly to listen/watch podcasts, check my emails and surf the web. I mostly use this device at home, well actually in bed where the use of a netbook let it a laptop is very inappropriate.

    I will very likely buy an iPad, though I will wait for a year until more consumer reviews come in and maybe the price will drop a bit by then. The iPad might be just a larger iPod, though it would be ideal to watch video podcasts, Internet TV and browsing.

    I beg to differ. Do you how many Kindles Amazon already sold for $399 or $299? ALL a kindle can do is read books and newspapers etc...
    I have never found the Kindle sexy and always thought that it was overpriced. I guess that Amazon will have to drastically drop their prices (like under 200$) if they really want to stay in this game. Some people already think that the Kindle is dead. Though, I am very old school when it comes to books and still prefer big fat paper editions.

    This thing can do hundreds of thousands of other things. Who cares if you can't run multiple apps, it's probably just a couple future OS upgrades away anyway...
    I agree. multitasking is not so crucial to this kind of devices. Many of our daily commodities run mono task operating systems. My illico terminal runs an OS called PowerTv, it is not a multitask OS and nobody is complaining about it.

    When I get one, I'm not going to replace my laptop with it. When I need to crunch numbers or write a 30 page report, I will still use my laptop. When I want to read, play games, watch video, browse the web, and do "fun" stuff, I will use an iPad. When I fly, I'll just slide it into my laptop case and it will be way easier to use on the plane. How can you compare this screen to any netbook? It doesn't compare.
    Steve Jobs made it clear that the iPad is no netbook. Some tech journalists said that the iPad is a content consumption and not a content production device. Comparing iPads to computers is like comparing apples (no pun intended) and oranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Dover View Post
    Ironically, Jobs has delivered freedom of choice to many people in other ways. Remember, not so long ago, you had to buy the whole album even though you didn't like most of the songs, in order to get the one or two songs you wanted? Well, itunes solved that problem and now you get the song for $0.99, not $15.95.
    True, though sound quality dropped as prices did.

    I should also point out that anyone can develop software for the ipad (or iphone). So really, it's just a question of adoption... Companies who make software for PCs can adapt it the the apple devices if they want to... Nothing is stopping them.
    Not true, last summer I wanted to explore the iPod/iPhone architecture and write some apps for these platforms. I was disappointed to notice that I had to use cocoa which is only available on macs. Other mobile devices platforms, like the Android, opened their SDKs for Windows, Linux and OS X. So, Apple really needs to be more open in order to attract more developers. In the longer run, Android might win the battle because it is open.

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