How Can an Escort Tell your Ethnicity?

[terrybogard88]

1. Do you believe escorts have a "duty" to see clients of all ethnicities, or only the ones they wish to see?

2. Apart from the question of whether escorts should operate any different than civilian women in the real world who see who they want to see, why would you want to get service from an escort who does not want to see anyone of your ethnicity?

These questions have to be answered before the thread can proceed, just from the logic standpoint.

1. No 'Duty'. If we like them SPs, we should also like that they keep their comfort zone and sense of liberty. i believe in karma. what goes up always comes down anyway. consequence of that choice is on them

2.WHY would you want to get service from an escort who does not want to see anyone of your ethnicity? the answer is in the question: BECAUSE what you want is the service from her. period. Not her personnaly, not what she thinks , not her preferences, precisely her service. But for some men (many of us, like me) that would not even work. Because we connect that particular service which is sex, with the person offering it, and we connect sex with mutual acceptance

Yeah it sucks to be excluded because of colour, ethnicity or age but in the end would you really want to be with someone who doesn’t want to be with you.
Better to know up front and the good thing is that there are many gorgeous young women who will accept you so no need to waste your time with the ones that won’t.

i agree. The nature is well done. Plenty of girls out there, plenty of men. What goes up must come down. If she refuses your ethnicity that causes her some sort damage too. I mean.... can someone be happy if he eats only rice everyday ? well if she says she is , id say 'good luck gurl' to her

 

[LeDodo]

immigration paperwork, police checking, customs and all the formalities plus.. plus the long loooong waitings sometime standing up in line. All that are the trade-off, the bad parts of the travelling but hey it s like fishing, gotta sacrify something to access what it has to offer. Once you make that sacrifice, you get something incredible that is completely worth it right ?

some people wont travel just because of all that. like me for example, im sick of all that infinite waiting in airports, the cramped seats of airplanes the annoyance of cancellations and everything, so i dont travel a lot anymore, i take other pleasures. But i should. Im working on it

I was referring to the path to PR which is quite painful in regards to the requested information.
Having lived in Asia I used to travel a lot thanks to the proximity with a wide range of countries and rather affordable airplane tickets. But this blessing turn into a curse like paperwork for PR requests you to list the past 10 years travel history. And if you lived for a certain period of time in a country you also have to provide the corresponding police certificate. And depending on the country it can be a PITA.
I still like to travel, now exploring the south

 

[terrybogard88]

I was referring to the path to PR which is quite painful in regards to the requested information.
Having lived in Asia I used to travel a lot thanks to the proximity with a wide range of countries and rather affordable airplane tickets. But this blessing turn into a curse like paperwork for PR requests you to list the past 10 years travel history. And if you lived for a certain period of time in a country you also have to provide the corresponding police certificate. And depending on the country it can be a PITA.
I still like to travel, now exploring the south

courage bro , every effort comes with its reward. maybe you will celebrate that with your favorite SP and her moans will remind you the glory of the achievement , attaboy

 

[Fradi]

You are making it sound so poetic...why be with someone who doesn't.....She is a floozy dude. I am not asking her to marry me...i am here to bonk her. And forgive the saying" the more forbidden the fruit, the more you want it"...yet when a call girl gets all choosy it kind of make me see some irony...she is selling her body which means cash is the goal, and body is the product. I mean if she valued her body, she would not be a prostitute right??? So why now is she touchy about race and color ?

WTF are you talking about.
Everybody has a choice of who they want to sleep with even prostitutes.
I guess maybe some men would make her sick to her stomach and the money would not compensate.
She is selling her service and reserves the right to do that with who ever she pleases regardless of her reasons. Money does not require her to relinquish her choice of who she accepts or rejects.
If she is a racist that is her choice and there is no need for you to see her.
You want forbidden fruit choose the one that wants to be picked it is as simple as that.

 

[terrybogard88]

You are making it sound so poetic...why be with someone who doesn't.....She is a floozy dude. I am not asking her to marry me...i am here to bonk her. And forgive the saying" the more forbidden the fruit, the more you want it"...yet when a call girl gets all choosy it kind of make me see some irony...she is selling her body which means cash is the goal, and body is the product. I mean if she valued her body, she would not be a prostitute right??? So why now is she touchy about race and color ?

I know, it sucks. but remember the product here is someone s body. A giant bottle of Coca Cola doesnt choose who gets to drink it. But a an SP gets to choose who fucks her and kiss her. It hurts but hey that s the thing with human beings they hurt sometimes... now that i think of that, we wont have that kind of issues with sexy robots powered by AI tho. They dont care black arabic chinese or whatsoever or do they ?. But none of us would like to fuck robots just yet.... i mean , we all agree on that right ?

 

[EagerBeaver]

1. No 'Duty'. If we like them SPs, we should also like that they keep their comfort zone and sense of liberty. i believe in karma. what goes up always comes down anyway. consequence of that choice is on them

2.WHY would you want to get service from an escort who does not want to see anyone of your ethnicity? the answer is in the question: BECAUSE what you want is the service from her. period. Not her personnaly, not what she thinks , not her preferences, precisely her service. But for some men (many of us, like me) that would not even work. Because we connect that particular service which is sex, with the person offering it, and we connect sex with mutual acceptance


i agree. The nature is well done. Plenty of girls out there, plenty of men. What goes up must come down. If she refuses your ethnicity that causes her some sort damage too. I mean.... can someone be happy if he eats only rice everyday ? well if she says she is , id say 'good luck gurl' to her

My questions were directed at the thread starter whose post I quoted. He needs to answer them. I don't think he wants to answer them.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I But none of us would like to fuck robots just yet.... i mean , we all agree on that right ?

You need to watch the sci fi movie The 6th Day in which the Michael Rapaport character does fuck holograms....

 

[Michelle Gunn]

I suppose all women are racists then given that most exhibit extreme racial preferences when it comes to dating and mate selection

preference is preference and exclusion by race is racist. It's not homophobic to not fuck a person of the same sex, it's a preference.

 

[overfiend]

1. Do you believe escorts have a "duty" to see clients of all ethnicities, or only the ones they wish to see?

2. Apart from the question of whether escorts should operate any different than civilian women in the real world who see who they want to see, why would you want to get service from an escort who does not want to see anyone of your ethnicity?

These questions have to be answered before the thread can proceed, just from the logic standpoint.

To answer this question if i believe Escorts have a Duty to see any client...to me it is like being refused service of any kind because of color and race . I mean if you are a Doctor and you do such, would you be still employed. Imagine going to a commerce and the retailer says the same. I think if you decided to become a paid floozy, then not making a fuss about race and color should not be a thing. I do get some people of some races have some negative detractors...but to blanket it all under race and ethnicity is plain wrong.

 

[Samuellou666]

To answer this question if i believe Escorts have a Duty to see any client...to me it is like being refused service of any kind because of color and race . I mean if you are a Doctor and you do such, would you be still employed. Imagine going to a commerce and the retailer says the same. I think if you decided to become a paid floozy, then not making a fuss about race and color should not be a thing. I do get some people of some races have some negative detractors...but to blanket it all under race and ethnicity is plain wrong.

That would only work if the activity was fully regulated then you could sue the agencies or the girls for discrimination I guess, but then I also I believe if those girls are really biased against certain ethnicities they will just claim they are not available or some bullshit reasons.

Discrimination and bias is just part of human nature , it sucks but it’s like war or poverty it will not just disappear overnight.

Also I would find it hard to take pleasure if I knew the SP is having a bad moment with me and just doing her job.
Some don’t care though and just want to bang that SP no matter what, I can understand but in end it is not the best experience to have out there in my opinion.

 

[MassageFreakOut]

From my convos with some SP's:

Black: usually because it's so big it hurts them, and they are a bit tougher

Indians: the ones with a heavy accent and curry smell. They tend to start a negotiation to have the maximum amount of services possible.

You can talk about racism all you want, but when girls see a trend, they have the right to refuse.
I love it when ads of any SP writes exactly what they offer and what to expect

 

[LeDodo]

To answer this question if i believe Escorts have a Duty to see any client...to me it is like being refused service of any kind because of color and race . I mean if you are a Doctor and you do such, would you be still employed. Imagine going to a commerce and the retailer says the same. I think if you decided to become a paid floozy, then not making a fuss about race and color should not be a thing. I do get some people of some races have some negative detractors...but to blanket it all under race and ethnicity is plain wrong.

I don't think taking the example of doctors is relevant as they have a professional code of conduct to follow.

Also there are commerce explicitly having some constraints and requirements for the clientele they serve. Like bars they don't accept minors, amusement parks attractions stating for example pregnant women not allowed, some airlines refuses boarding pregnant women sometimes 1 months close to expecting date, sometimes 3 months, or even refusing drunk people onboard.
Actually any commerce or service providers have the rights to spell their own restrictions.
Sometimes it's to respect the law, sometimes it's to avoid responsibility in case of accidents, sometimes it's just to avoid situations.

 

[Halloween Mike]

The facts from a legal point of view.

She can choose her clients, her working conditions, and her rates.
Yes, she may refuse any client for any personal reason — including ethnic origin, age, gender, weight, etc. — without it being considered illegal discrimination, since the service is based on her personal consent within a private context.

However, if she refuses a client on an ethnic or racial basis while working for an agency, this could be considered illegal discrimination, because the agency offers a public service. Both the federal and provincial Human Rights Charters apply to businesses.

Huh what? The heck you talking about buddy?

Its escorting. An escort can refuse a client for whatever reason, a client can also refuse an escort.

Our bodies our choices. We all respect this in this business.

 

[Yourspicyasiangirl]

Huh what? The heck you talking about buddy?

Its escorting. An escort can refuse a client for whatever reason, a client can also refuse an escort.

Our bodies our choices. We all respect this in this business.

Les.filles peuvent pas vraiment refuser les clients sinon l'argent rentre pas. Oui techniquement elles peuvent, mais la raison ne doit pas etre style le client n'est pas à son goût. Alors.... Est-ce-que il a vraiment un libre-choix.... Quand ta seule facon de vivre cest etre une pute et que ton salaire est cheap..
Tu as comme "cette obligation" de toute les faire pour rentabiliser les choses... et en plus quel prometteur va take une fille qui refuse toujours ces clients...

 

[Fradi]

I’m just reminding everyone of the legal context, for those who are reading you, that’s all — I’m not accusing anyone.

Basically paying for sex is illegal for a client so we can cut the legal aspect completely for the SP it is not applicable.
Her body her choice and that is the way it should be, regardless of the fact that it may suck for anyone to be excluded.

 

[Halloween Mike]

I’m just reminding everyone of the legal context, for those who are reading you, that’s all — I’m not accusing anyone.

There is no legal context lol. Its illegal for us to buy, its legal for them to sell. By law thats it. But if no buyer then there is no seller ...:/. Its not rocket science. Races/colors/weight/age has nothing to do with it.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Les.filles peuvent pas vraiment refuser les clients sinon l'argent rentre pas. Quand ta seule facon de vivre cest etre une pute et que ton salaire est cheap..
Tu as comme "cette obligation" de toute les faire pour rentabiliser les choses... et en plus quel prometteur va take une fille qui refuse toujours ces clients...

Huh what? Alors oui elles peuvent refuser les clients. C'est simplement que la majorité des femmes qui choisissent ce métié savent qu'elle seront pas booker par Robert Pattinson...

Oui il peux y avoir des clients beau bonomes mais la majorité sera des hommes seules qui cherche un peu d'amour. Alors oui devenir escorte en esperant avoir que des clients "hot" c'est irrealiste.

Les escortes comprennent qui sera leur clientels et regarde surtout que le client soit gentil, propre et la respecte. C'est un boulot. Elles vendent du reve.

En lisant ton poste je note autant une condescendance malsaine sur les clients que les femmes qui ce devouent a ce metier et rendent notre vie plus agreable.

C'est clair que ce métier est pas fait pour toi mademoiselle. Mais tu peux etre sugar baby ou masseusse...

 

[Yourspicyasiangirl]

Huh what? Alors oui elles peuvent refuser les clients. C'est simplement que la majorité des femmes qui choisissent ce métié savent qu'elle seront pas booker par Robert Pattinson...

Oui il peux y avoir des clients beau bonomes mais la majorité sera des hommes seules qui cherche un peu d'amour. Alors oui devenir escorte en esperant avoir que des clients "hot" c'est irrealiste.

Les escortes comprennent qui sera leur clientels et regarde surtout que le client soit gentil, propre et la respecte. C'est un boulot. Elles vendent du reve.

En lisant ton poste je note autant une condescendance malsaine sur les clients que les femmes qui ce devouent a ce metier et rendent notre vie plus agreable.

C'est clair que ce métier est pas fait pour toi mademoiselle. Mais tu peux etre sugar baby ou masseusse...

Tes paroles me font pleurer lorsque tu prétends que ce métier n’est pas fait pour moi. Depuis mon enfance, j’ai toujours nourri le rêve de devenir escort et d’apporter du bonheur aux hommes. Jamais je ne me laisserai décourager par des personnes comme toi. Un jour, je réaliserai pleinement mon rêve, et j’espère même remporter le trophée de la meilleure escort de l’année 2025. À moi ces dicks et tous ces hommes !

 

[LeDodo]

Les.filles peuvent pas vraiment refuser les clients sinon l'argent rentre pas. Oui techniquement elles peuvent, mais la raison ne doit pas etre style le client n'est pas à son goût. Alors.... Est-ce-que il a vraiment un libre-choix.... Quand ta seule facon de vivre cest etre une pute et que ton salaire est cheap..

Huh what? Alors oui elles peuvent refuser les clients. C'est simplement que la majorité des femmes qui choisissent ce métié savent qu'elle seront pas booker par Robert Pattinson...

Le point était de dire que dans des cas le refus n'est pas une option d'un point de vue financier et pas nécessairement parce que le client ne convient pas.
Certaines peuvent se permettre d'être plus sélectives d'autres non.

 

[EagerBeaver]

There is no legal context lol. Its illegal for us to buy, its legal for them to sell. By law thats it. But if no buyer then there is no seller ...:/. Its not rocket science. Races/colors/weight/age has nothing to do with it.

I don't understand the legal context either. Hypothetical situation #1: an escort shows up at a client's hotel room. Upon the client opening the door, the escort observes that he is an Indian client, a group she doesn't service. She informs the client, bluntly, "sorry, but I do not service Indian clients." She then walks out, leaving the client holding his boner.

Can he sue for illegal discrimination? Of course not, because he was engaged in an illegal activity. There is no discrimination. Under the law, the transaction is "void ab initio"- void from inception due to illegality. Therefore, no illegal discrimination could occur. At most it was non--actionable prejudice against an ethnicity.

Hypothetical situation #2: an escort shows up at client's hotel room. She has advertised to the client her rate is $300 per hour. The client hands the escort $300. She says to the client, "thank you. I just need to go downstairs and pay the driver." She doesn't come back.

Let's assume the client knows the escort's full name and address. Can he bring a small claims lawsuit against her, for breach of contract?

Answer: No. This lawsuit would be dismissed by any Judge in any court of competent jurisdiction in the USA or Canada. Anyone who has studied law and taken a course in contracts knows that the consideration for a contract cannot be meretricious or for services not allowed under the law. There is no contract and the $300 may not be returned, nor the contract enforced, on a breach of contract theory.

Can the client pursue a misdemeanor theft charge with the police?

On these same facts in the USA, under no circumstances as you would be admitting to a misdemeanor in order to pursue a misdemeanor charge which, in all likelihood, would not be charged. More likely is that the client would be charged if he foolishly pursued this with the police.

On these same facts in Montreal, I suspect the same analysis would apply.

So bringing up laws and legal rights is all bullshit because none of it is enforceable in Court. If it's not enforceable in Court it's not only bullshit, but bullshit in its purest and most unadulterated form. It's Super Bullshit.

By the way, I have an actual law degree and I have passed the bar in 3 US jurisdictions. You would be surprised that questions like the ones I posted above make their way onto law school exams (contracts and criminal law) and in some form on bar exams as well. Law school professors try to trick you into allowing yourself to think like a civilian instead of a lawyer. That's what separates the lawyers from the civilians in the tested group.