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We are allowed to choose but it seems like this is the only instance where ppl agree that we're allowed to choose lol
Very good point I had never even considered. Some (not all, duh) of the same guys constantly bringing up the fact that "racial discrimination is their right, it's their bodies after all" will write reviews complaining about not getting xyz acronyms, as if that wasn't also a matter of her body her choice. Perhaps your breath smells bad or perhaps she's just not into you. Does refusing to offer services you normally offer, based on attraction, constitute good business? No, probably not. But it's pretty much the same idea (racism aside) as refusing to provide service because you don't like a skintone lol and yet these guys treat both instances very differently
 

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The sad truth is that even if some white men are dangerous clients, we can’t ban them otherwise we’d make no money. Banning any other race is just easy so that’s why you see that often on ads

Banning minorities has always been easy…


Have a pleasant evening everyone. This thread is giving me a headache :(
 
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We are allowed to choose but it seems like this is the only instance where ppl agree that we're allowed to choose lol
No, you are always allowed to choose regardless of your reasons. It is not a store or public service, it is your body, your rules and your choice can’t get any simpler than that.
Anybody that doesn’t like it too bad they can move on and find someone else to their liking.
Yes in most cases it may be racist and sucks for the person being rejected.
 

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How are you so sure that most girls don't want to see men of a certain race? Have you seen every single ad?

Don't need to. Just ask the guys here that are of that group and see what they have to say.
Everyone has the right to engage in prejudice... and I guarantee you 100% of the people here do one way or another.
 

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And did you get the chance to ask why, assuming you saw one who did not have such a ban and may have friends who do (?)
It would be irrelevant question. They feel the way they feel. As Neverbored stated, they are just grossed out and he is not wrong.
 

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Don't need to. Just ask the guys here that are of that group and see what they have to say.
Everyone has the right to engage in prejudice... and I guarantee you 100% of the people here do one way or another.
Depends on how people interpret things, prejudice or simply just choosing to spend on someone you prefer.
For instance, I don’t book girls from agencies MP and I stay away from Strip Joints.

I also rarely if ever see. blondes, spinners or BBW, not because I have anything personal against them it is simply because there is more than adequate amount of gorgeous brunettes, red heads, with long hair and killer curves that I am much more attracted to.
Some may say that is being prejudiced but I consider it simply a choice. It is my money so why wouldn’t I spend it on someone that I am more attracted to.

When it comes to skin colour it doesn’t really matter they are all gorgeous in my eyes my ATF happens to be an exotic mix and I couldn’t think of anyone more gorgeous.
 
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The sad truth is that even if some white men are dangerous clients, we can’t ban them otherwise we’d make no money. Banning any other race is just easy so that’s why you see that often on ads

Banning minorities has always been easy…


Have a pleasant evening everyone. This thread is giving me a headache :(
This is 100% fact.
 

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If escorting is the world's oldest profession, then surely "agency vs indy" is the world's oldest debate. And yet, somehow, arguments about race seem older still. It's discouraging to indulge in a "hobby" with so many bad actors and so little respect for human decency. I really can't stand piety, my own especially, but I sure wish that this escorting board was more centered on pleasure than on resentment. Of course, the angst out here is only a small reflection of the hatred and anger that rules the internet and, too often, the world.
 
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Very good point I had never even considered. Some (not all, duh) of the same guys constantly bringing up the fact that "racial discrimination is their right, it's their bodies after all" will write reviews complaining about not getting xyz acronyms, as if that wasn't also a matter of her body her choice. Perhaps your breath smells bad or perhaps she's just not into you. Does refusing to offer services you normally offer, based on attraction, constitute good business? No, probably not. But it's pretty much the same idea (racism aside) as refusing to provide service because you don't like a skintone lol and yet these guys treat both instances very differently
Yes that's exactly it.
No, you are always allowed to choose regardless of your reasons. It is not a store or public service, it is your body, your rules and your choice can’t get any simpler than that.
Anybody that doesn’t like it too bad they can move on and find someone else to their liking.
Yes in most cases it may be racist and sucks for the person being rejected.
I also believe we should be able to decide what we want to do and who we want to see and ultimately a black or Indian man has no advantage in seeing a racist escort who's forced to see them against their will. I understand the nuance.

My point is that it's only "her body her choice" in this case. There are countless threads in which clients complain about other choices and voice that they refuse to book someone who doesn't offer xyz.

There's the reality of the market. Refusing black and brown men won't really hurt your business as a white woman because they are not the clients who seek you the most. However, not offering certain acronyms will eliminate most of the clients.

Escorts make choices based on what the clientele is seeking within certain boundaries. I know I'd get money clients if I offered greek or roleplay or accepted getting degraded and dominated but I choose not to do these things. However, if I don't offer certain services I will barely get clients.
 
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If escorting is the world's oldest profession, then surely "agency vs indy" is the world's oldest debate. And yet, somehow, arguments about race seem older still. It's discouraging to indulge in a "hobby" with so many bad actors and so little respect for human decency. I really can't stand piety, my own especially, but I sure wish that this escorting board was more centered on pleasure than on resentment. Of course, the angst out here is only a small reflection of the hatred and anger that rules the internet and, too often, the world.
This thread was created and revived to create drama. None of us were talking about race until this guy brought it up randomly lol it has nothing to do with the initial conversation
 

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Yes that's exactly it.

I believe we should also be able to decide what we want to do and who we want to see. My point is that it's only "her body her choice" in this case. There are countless threads in which clients complain about other choices and voice that they refuse to book someone who doesn't offer xyz.

There's the reality of the market. Refusing black and brown men won't really hurt your business as a white woman because they are not the clients who seek you the most. However, not offering certain acronyms will eliminate most of the clients.
What you are saying is sadly true.
To me your reasoning for seeing or not seeing someone is your choice alone regardless of your reasons and that holds true for a client also.

As an example I won’t see a lady who refuses to kiss ( it is absolutely her right to not do this if she doesn’t want to) simply because it is important to me and there are more than enough gorgeous women who will.
I don’t get upset over it and I don’t complain about it I respect her choice and move on.

I understand that being rejected for the colour of your skin is more personal and may hurt much more but sadly that is life and we need to make our choices accordingly and move on.
 

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You're assuming a correlation where there isn't one. That's why I said uneducated guess. Clients (not all of them individually, but in general lol) have been worse post-pandemic due to a multitude of reasons, most of which have nothing to do with those specific demographics...
As we say, a picture is worth a thousand words:
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I understand that being rejected for the colour of your skin is more personal and may hurt much more but sadly that is life and we need to make our choices accordingly and move on.

Imagine being rejected out of paying an escort because of the color of your skin, your culture or physical handicap.... just seems like that would sting just a little bit more.
 

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What you are saying is sadly true.
To me your reasoning for seeing or not seeing someone is your choice alone regardless of your reasons and that holds true for a client also.

As an example I won’t see a lady who refuses to kiss ( it is absolutely her right to not do this if she doesn’t want to) simply because it is important to me and there are more than enough gorgeous women who will.
I don’t get upset over it and I don’t complain about it I respect her choice and move on.

I understand that being rejected for the colour of your skin is more personal and may hurt much more but sadly that is life and we need to make our choices accordingly and move on.
A lady who refuses to kiss risks not getting many clients and not going very far in this industry at the moment. A lady who refuses to see black men will still get plenty of clients, because most clients in general are white. That's also why we're saying most bad behaviour we've experienced comes from white and non black clients. There are good and bad men of all races.
 

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When is this thread going to get locked? Are you not tired of always repeating the same things?

Every single thread ends up the same way
I want to change OP and ask if ladies in agencies give better BJ than Indies ... !
 

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I want to change OP and ask if ladies in agencies give better BJ than Indies ... !
I feel like a lot of people have seen more agency girls than indies, have never seen an indy at all, or haven't seen one in a long time, so it's not really objective
 

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Me? An owner of an internet messaging board? You cannot be serious.

I control a Mega Super Elite Global Empire. I regret to inform you that your repeated incorrect and invalid opinions about Mega Super Elite clients like me may result in the revocation of your Posting License here. This August Forum demands a higher quality of Mega Super Elite clients and Posters like me; non-Elite Riff Raff like you can make your way over to Leolist, or scrawl on bathroom walls--wherever it is prose such as yours is usually found.

We Mega Super Elite are not impressed by your mentions of Global Destinations and Luxury/Near Luxury Brands you heard about from a Rap Song.

And yes, multiple day bookings are signs of Extreme Poverty; anything less than multiple Elite Girls for multiple months with options to extend (at the sole discretion of us Mega Super Elite) is risible.
You are very stupid ! The owner passed away ! You are continuing to spreed your lies here . You own nothing here !
T’es tellement con … merde !
There are other review board like Ter review.
I regret to inform you that you are nobody ! You have no movie . Just a random person with big ego and full of lies .
I am done with so much lies . You can’t provide money and presents because you don’t have money . How could you give something that you don’t have ?
I am sick of such fake like you !
 

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Imagine being rejected out of paying an escort because of the color of your skin, your culture or physical handicap.... just seems like that would sting just a little bit more.
Yep I agree. It's shitty and it says a lot about this escort's personality, although it is her choice as others have pointed out.
 

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I feel like a lot of people have seen more agency girls than indies, have never seen an indy at all, or haven't seen one in a long time, so it's not really objective
Then clients who see a SP more than once should have more votes ;-)
 

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You are very stupid ! The owner passed away ! You are continuing to spreed your lies here . You own nothing here !
T’es tellement con … merde !
There are other review board like Ter review.
I regret to inform you that you are nobody ! You have no movie . Just a random person with big ego and full of lies .
I am done with so much lies . You can’t provide money and presents because you don’t have money . How could you give something that you don’t have ?
I am sick of such fake like you !

... read the entire thread... he wasn't being serious...
I think we're gonna have to start adding /s. Its alost impossible to convey sarcasm in text from...