SPs without reviews

[Fradi]

Undoubtedly that could be true about some people, and that is also true about men who only post bad reviews or have a really bitter and angry attitude. in which case they are not looking for validation and approval from the women, but from the other men here. This is a very popular social phenomenon online.. this is why ''manosphere'' type websites are so popular nowadays, but also even among classmates and in groups of friends. Some men will act that way to secure their place in the social hierarchy among other men and try to prove their masculinity using the wrong method, meaning by insulting ppl they view as weaker.

You haven't met every man who you qualify as a ''white knight'' in person. From personal experience with this type of man (very awkward and never had real relationships), they are more afraid of confrontation than anything else and few of them actually want to expose themselves to being insulted by other guys, they are followers. I've seen some of my own clients get called ''white knights'' here, and few of them are socially awkward, all of them have had relationships, all of them are well adjusted men over 40, not weak little babies. It's your personal assumption that they are acting this way because they want validation and approval.

It's also your perspective that someone will idolize everyone no matter what they say, it's just not based in reality. It just happens that some people agree with some people, and not with others. It's not because people agree with a SP that they are weak minded and only seeking her approval.. Nobody here is a famous person. If we were influencers or celebrities, I would understand where you're coming from a lot better because parasociality would be involved.

I think some of what you are saying is true. Unfortunately people are influenced by others and many seek validation and approval on these sights.

Actually you are influencers whether you like the term or not.
What is an influencer anyway just someone who has a larger following. Where is the cut off to be called an influencer.
Actually we are all influencers, every like or angry emoji is proof of that.

It is sad because the only people that truly count in your life are your family and your close friends, others are just strangers who you may or may not agree with and have no affect on you or your life.
As you get older you pay little attention to those things and you get to a stage where you don’t give a fuck what anybody thinks and you just tell it the way you feel and think.
It is not because you intentionally want to hurt someone or their feelings it is that you have come to a point where you realize that someone is going to disagree with you no matter what and worrying about it doesn’t do any good.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I think some of what you are saying is true. Unfortunately people are influenced by others and many seek validation and approval on these sights.

Actually you are influencers whether you like the term or not.
What is an influencer anyway just someone who has a larger following. Where is the cut off to be called an influencer.
Actually we are all influencers, every like or angry emoji is proof of that.

It is sad because the only people that truly count in your life are your family and your close friends, others are just strangers who you may or may not agree with and have no affect on you or your life.
As you get older you pay little attention to those things and you get to a stage where you don’t give a fuck what anybody thinks and you just tell it the way you feel and think.
It is not because you intentionally want to hurt someone or their feelings it is that you have come to a point where you realize that someone is going to disagree with you no matter what and worrying about it doesn’t do any good.

It's true that part of our job is to have a large following so in a way yes we're kind of like influencers but if our clients come here and agree with what we're saying or disagree with a bad review these are people we have met in person, sometimes several times. Not people who admire us from afar... There's also a difference between most Montreal SP and an influencer who is known by the general population and an actual celebrity.

As a response to your last paragraph, everyone can have their opinions but in order to have a respectful conversation you have to be careful what words you're using. That's called being civilized and respectful. It's also important to listen to what the person you disagree with is saying carefully in order to avoid misunderstanding what they were actually saying. Online we also don't hear the other person's voice tone, which leads to a lot of interpretation so it's important to check in and make sure you understood what's being said clearly.

 

[Fradi]

It's true that part of our job is to have a large following so in a way yes we're kind of like influencers but if our clients come here and agree with what we're saying or disagree with a bad review these are people we have met in person, sometimes several times. Not people who admire us from afar... There's also a difference between most Montreal SP and an influencer who is known by the general population and an actual celebrity.

As a response to your last paragraph, everyone can have their opinions but in order to have a respectful conversation you have to be careful what words you're using. That's called being civilized and respectful. It's also important to listen to what the person you disagree with is saying carefully in order to avoid misunderstanding what they were actually saying. Online we also don't hear the other person's voice tone, which leads to a lot of interpretation so it's important to check in and make sure you understood what's being said

Usually very few of the defense core are clients that come to an SP defence and more that are bobble head validation seeking groupies otherwise they would actually say I know her I have seen her several times and that is not the way it is.

If I think someone is unfair to a lady I am seeing that is exactly the way I will respond and have responded several times.
I am not ashamed to say I have seen that lady and I think she is amazing.

As far as respectful conversations that is kind of laughable because both sides are always going to claim that the other is being disrespectful or rude or an out right lier, so that is usually a non starter and playing the victim is far too easy.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Usually very few of the defense core are clients that come to an SP defence and more that are bobble head validation seeking groupies otherwise they would actually say I know her I have seen her several times and that is not the way it is.

If I think someone is unfair to a lady I am seeing that is exactly the way I will respond and have responded several times.
I am not ashamed to say I have seen that lady and I think she is amazing.

As far as respectful conversations that is kind of laughable because both sides are always going to claim that the other is being disrespectful or rude or an out right lier, so that is usually a non starter and playing the victim is far too easy.

It's not relevant to say you know a person and have seen her several times when the discussion doesn't have anything to do with her reviews...

As for respectful conversations, I think it's obvious when someone is clearly being disrespectful. Pointing out any form of abuse or disrespect isn't the same thing as ''playing the victim''. During a discussion I make sure I am reading a comment I am responding to entirely and I use my reading comprehension skills. Not everyone does this here. Some ''read too fast'', and assume what another person thinks.

Anyways, I'm going to leave this conversation because it's getting off-topic.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Not everyone does this here. Some ''read too fast'', and assume what another person thinks.

Anyways, I'm going to leave this conversation because it's getting off-topic.

While true at times, sometimes it can also be the person badly expressing themselves (im pointing at me in this case). Some of us don't have the same "social skills" as others and sometimes i can mean something and it just come out wrong. I try to be more careful of this nowadays but something i still have slip up.

Anyway. As always i apreciate your toughts Luna.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

While true at times, sometimes it can also be the person badly expressing themselves (im pointing at me in this case). Some of us don't have the same "social skills" as others and sometimes i can mean something and it just come out wrong. I try to be more careful of this nowadays but something i still have slip up.

Anyway. As always i apreciate your toughts Luna.

I agree that we can make mistakes when expressing ourselves, particularly online, that's why it's important to converse in a respectful manner and make sure everyone understands each other before starting to call somebody names and project negative intentions onto them I think a lot of people make assumptions and I can tell there are a lot of rumors running around.. sometimes it's good to clear things up