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Lexus3

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The issue is that people think escorts are women who you should travel with and spend vacation time with

That's a big mistake. I'm sure guys do it, but there will always be guys who do simp things when it comes to women

The correct thing to do is to never travel with an escort because it's a waste of money

Mongering is a highly transactional activity. Which means that the only thing you should be doing as a monger, is extracting as much value as possible for your dollars spent

Obviously when you do this, you don't become a jerk, or asshole. But you understand fully that the main reason you're here is to maximize the value that you get, in a respectful way

This means booking enough time to ensure that you get a satisfying amount of sexual activities. Booking extended meets or 3 day get-aways means there will be a lot of dead time where you're hardly having sex or being intimate, that's not good

When people talk about going on vacations and trips with escorts, they're describing something that you would do with a girlfriend or romantic partner

If that's what you want, that's great. A lot of people want that with a woman, completely understandable.

However, the solution to get that isn't to hire an escort. The solution is to actually get a girlfriend and take HER out. Spend your money on her, have the non sexual and connection moments with her, do activities with her.

Don't confuse yourself by thinking you have a relationship with a prostitute, you don't

You're just wasting your time and money
It is not about relationships or money if I can afford it and choose to spend my money this way. It is, for me, simply paid pleasant companionship.
Feel free to do whatever you want with your money or feel anyway you want about whoever you want, but please don't choose for me
 

Stroker7

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Don't do it. Your not "dating" this girl. Vacations are expensive already without the girl. If things go wrong..it puts you both in a precarious position especially if your in another country. Way more things can go wrong than right
 
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Fradi

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Don't do it. Your not "dating" this girl. Vacations are expensive already without the girl. If things go wrong..it puts you both in a precarious position especially if your in another country. Way more things can go wrong than right
It really depends on the lady and your relationship with her.
I think with my ATF it would be an amazing vacation I have known her for years and taking her on a vacation would be kind of a thank you for the many fabulous times I have spent with her. We have talked about it a few times but could never arrange our schedules but we are working on it.
I don’t really care that much about the cost, money is ment to be spent on things you enjoy and make you happy.

Being in another country is not really an issue if you know the place well and you get insurance and if you speak the language it is even easier.
Most of Europe you can easily get by with just English also.
 

EastWind

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Not going to say this is a good or bad idea but remember this. The SP has no loyalty, allegiance, and definitely no true desire/feelings for you. This is all a matter of convenience. Now if there is something better that comes along that benefits her she may betray you and you may lose your donation. There were instances where the SP met someone and ditched the dude during the trip. Another example the guy and the SP went to a gambling city like Vegas. SP loses her money gambling and then demanded the guy to further pay up.
 

merbuser1221

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It really depends on the lady and your relationship with her.
I think with my ATF it would be an amazing vacation I have known her for years and taking her on a vacation would be kind of a thank you for the many fabulous times I have spent with her. We have talked about it a few times but could never arrange our schedules but we are working on it.
I don’t really care that much about the cost, money is ment to be spent on things you enjoy and make you happy.

Being in another country is not really an issue if you know the place well and you get insurance and if you speak the language it is even easier.
Most of Europe you can easily get by with just English also.
Even if money doesn't matter and a monger has tens of millions of dollars, it's still not a good idea because it's a waste of time

It's better to engage in that dynamic with a girl met through the normal dating means, no escorts/ sugarbabies etc
 
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EastWind

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The issue is that people think escorts are women who you should travel with and spend vacation time with

That's a big mistake. I'm sure guys do it, but there will always be guys who do simp things when it comes to women

The correct thing to do is to never travel with an escort because it's a waste of money

Mongering is a highly transactional activity. Which means that the only thing you should be doing as a monger, is extracting as much value as possible for your dollars spent

Obviously when you do this, you don't become a jerk, or asshole. But you understand fully that the main reason you're here is to maximize the value that you get, in a respectful way

This means booking enough time to ensure that you get a satisfying amount of sexual activities. Booking extended meets or 3 day get-aways means there will be a lot of dead time where you're hardly having sex or being intimate, that's not good

When people talk about going on vacations and trips with escorts, they're describing something that you would do with a girlfriend or romantic partner

If that's what you want, that's great. A lot of people want that with a woman, completely understandable.

However, the solution to get that isn't to hire an escort. The solution is to actually get a girlfriend and take HER out. Spend your money on her, have the non sexual and connection moments with her, do activities with her.

Don't confuse yourself by thinking you have a relationship with a prostitute, you don't

You're just wasting your time and money
This is known as the Big Head on top is doing the thinking and not the little one lol.
 

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I didn’t see it that way.
He is just explaining the different options and breaking it down as to what makes sense financially and what options there are.
Taking an SP and paying an extra $20,000 for her time ( which would probably be her going rate ) on top of it is not something I would do even if I can afford it.
For me it has to be that she actually wants to be there and that we enjoy each others company not because I am paying her a large amount of money that is a recipe for disaster. When you have to make a long list of dos and don'ts and rules for uninterrupted sleep and private time etc… it just doesn’t make sense anymore.
I think if you know each other well just being kind and respectful will be enough without it becoming a contract negotiation type of adventure which would not make any sense to me that is why it is so important to know and like the person for who she is not just the sex.

It really all depends on your relationship with the SP you want to take and what your expectations are.
I would say if you are looking at it purely financially it is far cheaper to hire local SP in the country you are visiting.
Flights and Hotel or air BNB can run into $7000-$8000 anywhere in Europe for a week for 2 people and that doesn’t include food, entertainment or a bit of souvenir shopping. You can see many SP for that amount in Eastern Europe or Spain.

I would love to take my ATF on a vacation she is an amazing young lady, she is a friend she is fun to be with, if I was anywhere close to her age she would be in a lot of trouble lol.
That is much more likely to happend or a 4 pack of cuban girls for 10 days for half the price of your trip to eastern Europe that would be closer to what I could pay....
 

LeDodo

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Even if money doesn't matter and a monger has tens of millions of dollars, it's still not a good idea because it's a waste of time

It's better to engage in that dynamic with a girl met through the normal dating means, no escorts/ sugarbabies etc
Well lot of rich people would disagree with you ...

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Blackitlightning

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We all won't agree on this point because we all have different things that we value and are willing to spend money on, no matter how rich or poor we are. I have never bought a super expensive phone or watch but I absolutely have bought expensive laptops, expensive sneakers and a high end car.

Taking an SP on a vacation for days is something I would never do. I dont see the value for the time I get. For a girlfriend/wife, 100% as there is an emotional investment. But I have done a DMTY as the value for time would have been far better based on my calculation as I wasnt being charged for her "downtime"
 

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That is much more likely to happend or a 4 pack of cuban girls for 10 days for half the price of your trip to eastern Europe that would be closer to what I could pay....
I wouldn’t go to Cuba out of principle. I will never support a communist regime on my own dime, not to mention the living conditions and the lack of decent food.
I did have to go to Russia and China several times but It was business and I had no choice. There were so many opportunities to see escorts there but I was married and I don’t cheat.

Btw hobbying in Eastern Europe is better than here I would say the women are much better looking than the current available Indies here and it is far less expensive.

Me taking my ATF on a European vacation has little to do with cost it is much more about appreciating someone who has been a lifeline and a friend to me for many years after I lost my wife to cancer.
The way she has treated me over the years you really cannot repay with money.
 

urquell

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There's so many ways in which this thread is going off the rails. I keep reading "couldn't, shouldn't, don't think, think, girlfriend" whatever and all it tells me is that most of the people replying on this thread have never done it before. It's also clear that many of the replies come from people used to transacting by the hour based on the replies.

The first thing is that the ladies you travel with are people, not sex machines. You are not going to be in the sack with them all day every day. It is not a sex by the hour proposition and that thought process needs to exit your minds. The ladies are your travel companions, not your sex monkeys. That's why it's important to choose people that you know a little bit at least, so you know whether your personalities and your interests align. Think of it as an FWB travel companion. The ladies I travel with go to the beach with me, go on boat trips, visit places of historical and archaeological interest, go to museums and markets and clubs, sit in the jacuzzi with a drink or whatever because it's stuff we both enjoy, as well as having interesting chats over meals. There's no pressure on having sex 6 times a day because we only do it when we feel like it. I travel alone all the time, but sometimes it's nice to have someone else around to share stuff with (yes, including sex). It's just a different kind of experience. I could get just sex pretty much anywhere and sometimes that's what I do too. It's two entirely different kinds of experiences and they need to be separated. This is also why there's little value in just bringing a stranger with you.

As for cash anyone can decide how to spend what's theirs however they like but this whole business of "don't decide for me" is just silly. This is an internet forum. Here you can get shared experience, information, opinions and guidance but nobody here knows who you are, not even your name, much less your character and preferences, and no one here has any power over anybody, or to decide anything for anyone. How is anyone going to tell you what to do? You take the information here and do with it (or do nothing with it) as you will. It is just to help people make informed decisions. You are the boss of you and will decide what works for you. The Spa Zephyr thread is conclusive proof of this! lol

You're not likely to find a GF or wife out of these excursions, that's true (although not unheard of) but unless you're a complete and utter asshole there's absolutely no reason not to exit the experience with a good and ongoing friendship (and perhaps future trips as well)

The money discussion is too long to have now as there's too much that goes into it and too many variables and this post is long enough already so I'll leave that for another time.
 

LeDodo

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There's so many ways in which this thread is going off the rails. I keep reading "couldn't, shouldn't, don't think, think, girlfriend" whatever and all it tells me is that most of the people replying on this thread have never done it before. It's also clear that many of the replies come from people used to transacting by the hour based on the replies.

The first thing is that the ladies you travel with are people, not sex machines. You are not going to be in the sack with them all day every day. It is not a sex by the hour proposition and that thought process needs to exit your minds. The ladies are your travel companions, not your sex monkeys. That's why it's important to choose people that you know a little bit at least, so you know whether your personalities and your interests align. Think of it as an FWB travel companion. The ladies I travel with go to the beach with me, go on boat trips, visit places of historical and archaeological interest, go to museums and markets and clubs, sit in the jacuzzi with a drink or whatever because it's stuff we both enjoy, as well as having interesting chats over meals. There's no pressure on having sex 6 times a day because we only do it when we feel like it. I travel alone all the time, but sometimes it's nice to have someone else around to share stuff with (yes, including sex). It's just a different kind of experience. I could get just sex pretty much anywhere and sometimes that's what I do too. It's two entirely different kinds of experiences and they need to be separated. This is also why there's little value in just bringing a stranger with you.

As for cash anyone can decide how to spend what's theirs however they like but this whole business of "don't decide for me" is just silly. This is an internet forum. Here you can get shared experience, information, opinions and guidance but nobody here knows who you are, not even your name, much less your character and preferences, and no one here has any power over anybody, or to decide anything for anyone. How is anyone going to tell you what to do? You take the information here and do with it (or do nothing with it) as you will. It is just to help people make informed decisions. You are the boss of you and will decide what works for you. The Spa Zephyr thread is conclusive proof of this! lol

You're not likely to find a GF or wife out of these excursions, that's true (although not unheard of) but unless you're a complete and utter asshole there's absolutely no reason not to exit the experience with a good and ongoing friendship (and perhaps future trips as well)

The money discussion is too long to have now as there's too much that goes into it and too many variables and this post is long enough already so I'll leave that for another time.
Thanks for this sensible reply!

And OP is asking for:
"How did it go?
Any tips?"
 

merbuser1221

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This reminds me of that game of thrones episode where Tyrion the short Lannister guy fell in love with a whore

And I think his brother was trying to bring him back to his senses lol
 

Ivan

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Yes I did tree times in NYC and ounce in Miami .
It was 25 years ago with a girl named Anik from a small agency the booker name was Robert.
I had an awesome time with that girl open to front and back doors sex . Incredible sexy chick open to anything. Good old times.