Why don’t yall confront/fight prostitutes who have pimps?

Nachoy · Dec 13, 2024

LC18 said:
While we’re talking about pimps. I remember that when I was working for a woman that made me believe she was my friend but stole all of my money and left me stranded in Windsor….clients would sometimes tip me.

Maybe they felt like I looked pimped? Anyways that’s how it ended badly for me. A client texted the number to say he had a great time and that he was happy to have given me extra.

Obviously I wasn’t the one handling the phone so that woman saw it and got mad. We were supposed to do 50/50 on the money and I hid it from her because in my eyes, tips don’t count. I was wrong, she threatened me and got violent before taking the 50% I was supposed to keep.

She kicked me out of the hotel room with my belongings.

Windsor is a long way from home.

TLDR: If you suspect someone is pimped. Tip them if you want but don’t mention it by text. As a matter of fact don’t mention anything other than “I had a good time” if that’s true. You never know what could happen to the girl because of your text message

I think the internet has open this profession directly to the client so there are less pimp-SPs hustlers out there
I meet a former SP who was an escort in the 80s before the internet when pimps were more rampant
Classic story. Runaway at 18. Befriended by a pimp. Gets sweet talked and “taken care” and treated as a favorite and lives with other girls in his place while learning the profession
She tells me of several incidents that happened that made her finally realize pimp was taking advantage of her
Another girl at the home brought back Chinese food take out and forgot soya sauce and pimp got mad at her beat her up black and blue cause he told specifically he wanted soya sauce with the order
Another girl decided to leave his stable without his permission and months later he sees her one day walking along the street. Grabs her off the street and pulls her into his car threatens her with knife for walking out in her. She feels like she going to die. He lets her go after telling her she was his property and he threatens he’ll kill if he sees her again
Now a days with internet. There is IG. onlyfans. Merb . So many ways to reach out to your client directly and be independent without needing a scummy pimp.
When I talk to current generation of SPs seems like they get taken advantage by MP owners and agencies not pimps.

Julia Sky · Dec 13, 2024

Nachoy said:
When I talk to current generation of SPs seems like they get taken advantage by MP owners and agencies not pimps.

I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this.... Those are also pimps. A pimp isn't necessarily physically violent or even coercive. A pimp is a pimp is a pimp.

Fradi · Dec 13, 2024

Nachoy said:
Now a days with internet. There is IG. onlyfans. Merb . So many ways to reach out to your client directly and be independent without needing a scummy pimp.
When I talk to current generation of SPs seems like they get taken advantage by MP owners and agencies not pimps.

Now days pimps don’t drive a pink Cadillac convertibles and wear a super fly hat or beat up the girls that work for them.
They use the internet, and smart phones and own MP places and agencies.

Nachoy · Dec 13, 2024

Julia Sky said:
I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this.... Those are also pimps. A pimp isn't necessarily physically violent or even coercive. A pimp is a pimp is a pimp.

What makes MP owners and agencies pimps?
Don’t they have to book, screen and setup room for you and expect to get paid for their services
They don’t coercive or physical harm you and are free to leave and you consider them pimps. Why?
New generation re defining pimps

Julia Sky · Dec 13, 2024

Nachoy said:
What makes MP owners and agencies pimps?
Don’t they have to book, screen and setup room for you and expect to get paid for their services
They don’t coercive or physical harm you and are free to leave and you consider them pimps. Why?
New generation re defining pimps

Or maybe it's the new generation of clients trying to redefine "pimp". It's funny because assistants exist as well as people who rent incalls by the day or by the hour and none of them ask for as much money as pimps do.

Pimp doesn't equal violent or coercive. It's just someone who arranges clients for escorts and takes a large cut.

Jordangoat23 · Dec 13, 2024

Julia Sky said:
I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this.... Those are also pimps. A pimp isn't necessarily physically violent or even coercive. A pimp is a pimp is a pimp.

They are good pimps tho. I believe that’s the reason many prostitutes chose to work with them.

Fradi · Dec 13, 2024

Nachoy said:
What makes MP owners and agencies pimps?
Don’t they have to book, screen and setup room for you and expect to get paid for their services
They don’t coercive or physical harm you and are free to leave and you consider them pimps. Why?
New generation re defining pimps

Anybody making money off prostitutes is a pimp.
These are just not violent pimps, but pimps never the less. Yes it can be argued that they provide services like advertising, transportation, protection, incall facility etc.. depends how you want to consider this.
Personally I still consider them pimps and that is why I only book independents, I even stay away from the ones that hire a booker to coordinate their activities. I don’t like middle men of any kind and prefer to deal directly with the lady I am seeing.

Julia Sky · Dec 13, 2024

They might be good people. The same way a cop might be a good person but imo there are no "good cops" because of the system in which this job operates. There are good people owning agencies but they're not good pimps as theres no such thing imo. Although I know what you mean.

Jordangoat23 · Dec 13, 2024

Julia Sky said:
They might be good people. The same way a cop might be a good person but imo there are no "good cops" because of the system in which this job operates. There are good people owning agencies but they're not good pimps as theres no such thing imo. Although I know what you mean.

Agree to disagree

Fradi · Dec 13, 2024

Julia Sky said:
There are good people owning agencies but they're not good pimps as theres no such thing imo. Although I know what you mean.

I would disagree with you on them being good people lol.
As you said a pimp is a pimp is a pimp.

Lunaseraphim · Dec 13, 2024

Julia Sky said:
I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this.... Those are also pimps. A pimp isn't necessarily physically violent or even coercive. A pimp is a pimp is a pimp.

finally someone said it.
and these employers absolutely can be coercive and inappropriate. i've heard of some pretty bad stories let's just put it this way.

Jordangoat23 · Dec 13, 2024

Fradi said:
I would disagree with you on them being good people lol.
As you said a pimp is a pimp is a pimp.

Why are they not able to be good people? Elaborate your point.

Lunaseraphim · Dec 13, 2024

Jordangoat23 said:
They are good pimps tho. I believe that’s the reason many prostitutes chose to work with them.

they're not necessarily good. i've heard of people being tricked into doing FS by MP owners, workers being pressured to do GFE, employers sexually harassing and assaulting employees, etc. i've heard all kinds of stories. people choose to work for agencies and MPs for a variety of reasons, for example not having a place to work, the impression that it's safer, having colleagues around, etc. but often employers don't treat everyone the same way. this is also why a lot of SP's change MPs and agencies often, some places are just not healthy work spaces

Julia Sky · Dec 13, 2024

Lunaseraphim said:
they're not necessarily good. i've heard of people being tricked into doing FS by MP owners, workers being pressured to do GFE, employers sexually harassing and assaulting employees, etc. i've heard all kinds of stories. people choose to work for agencies and MPs for a variety of reasons, for example not having a place to work, the impression that it's safer, having colleagues around, etc. but often employers don't treat everyone the same way. this is also why a lot of SP's change MPs and agencies often, some places are just not healthy work spaces

Yeah. Ive heard stories about the very same agencies that some guys on this board and other boards rave about. From their workers and those who left the agency. Escorts choose to work for them for xyz reasons, not necessarily because they're so nice and such good people.

Fradi · Dec 13, 2024

Jordangoat23 said:
Why are they not able to be good people? Elaborate your point.

I don’t consider people making money off of the back of a prostitute as a good person. I consider them to be pimps
No I do not consider it as a business for them like any other and that they are entitled to it because of the services they provide.
If you do, that is your decision we are all different and have different values that we live by.

Jordangoat23 · Dec 13, 2024

Fradi said:
I don’t consider people making money off of the back of a prostitute as a good person. I consider them to be pimps
No I do not consider it as a business for them like any other and that they are entitled to it because of the services they provide.
If you do, that is your decision we are all different and have different values that we live by.

Okay so basically you want people to work in a sweatshop if I’m understanding your point correctly? You want a team that wakes up every morning (5days/week)
Provide prostitutes with an
- Incall condo location
- Multiple clean towels
- A booker that filter out the tricks (time wasters or serious inquiries)
- A driver for outcalls
- A maid to clean the appartements at the end of the work days (after midnight)

And these people should not dare ask for a salary? The prostitutes make 250$+/trick every workday but don’t have to contribute to shit that they benefit from the agency. Did I get this thing right Fradi?

Jordangoat23 · Dec 13, 2024

Julia Sky said:
Yeah. Ive heard stories about the very same agencies that some guys on this board and other boards rave about. From their workers and those who left the agency. Escorts choose to work for them for xyz reasons, not necessarily because they're so nice and such good people.

Going indy might be a better options for them in that case.

Jordangoat23 · Dec 13, 2024

Lunaseraphim said:
they're not necessarily good. i've heard of people being tricked into doing FS by MP owners, workers being pressured to do GFE, employers sexually harassing and assaulting employees, etc. i've heard all kinds of stories. people choose to work for agencies and MPs for a variety of reasons, for example not having a place to work, the impression that it's safer, having colleagues around, etc. but often employers don't treat everyone the same way. this is also why a lot of SP's change MPs and agencies often, some places are just not healthy work spaces

Can’t they report them to authorities in that scenario? Sexual harrassement, coercion, etc.

xooxxo · Dec 13, 2024

Fradi said:
I don’t consider people making money off of the back of a prostitute as a good person. I consider them to be pimps

Last time I checked, MERB makes money from indy advertising, so by that definition they are pimps too. And yet you are still here.

Julia Sky · Dec 13, 2024

xooxxo said:
Last time I checked, MERB makes money from indy advertising, so by that definition they are pimps too. And yet you are still here.

Merb sells an advertising package, which is a service, they're hosting our ads... And they don't take a cut from our appointments. This is a bad comparison. I'd have to give more money to a pimp in a day than I give merb in a month...

Merb doesn't arrange our appointments nor do they demand a cut..

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