Why don’t yall confront/fight prostitutes who have pimps?
- Thread starter Jordangoat23
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Feeling is definitely not mutual, but I finally understand what type of troll I’ve been dealing with smh.
Merb is no different than Twitter or any other advertising platform with the exception that with reviews it contributes to the safety of Johns and for them to have a descent experience.
They do not take a cut of the Sex Workers income. Neither did the Journal De Montreal in the past when Merb didn’t exist.
I have no problem with people using agencies or MP we are all different and live by different values.
For me they are pimps and I won’t use them simple as that.
Troll ? how many handles of yours need to be banned lol and yet you keep coming back.
You are not fooling anyone.
We're basically agreeing. Advertisers, photographers, colleagues, etc shouldn't be seen as pimps. These people were convicted because of a conservative policy that doesn't actually care about sex workers safety. A lot of employers of sex workers don't care that much and a lot of them are clients or ex clients who want to benefit from their own business in multiple ways.
I don't know Mia and I'm sure she's lovely. Obviously if an establishment like this is owned by a former or current escort it's more likely to be "better".. but there are still industry standards that are created by men, such as a certain price range, expected services etc how will the business survive if it doesn't copy that model? That's what I'm wondering
A pimp is a pimp is a pimp. being male or female doesn’t change that.
She may just be a kinder and more thoughtful pimp.
According to what I've seen on this forum clients expect to pay a certain rate when they visit a mp or an agency or at least an average. In order to make profit the establishments have to take a part of the sp's pay. If one place starts charging higher because it's more ethical who will visit that place? You know very well what expected services are. I know agency workers are pressured to offer gfe or have to offer it. I've never worked for one but that's what I've heard. Mp rates are relatively similar too and certain places also pressure sps to offer gfe. I feel like you're just making me waste my time
i don't know enough about the mechanics of agencies to judge if they are pimps or not, i remember the Unicorn healers agencies a while ago that was owned and managed by Melody if i'm not mistaken (it's a been a while), i only heard good thing about her from the ladies you used to work with her and yet she was managing an agency.
Is anyone managing an agency is a considered a pimp in your eyes? (open question)
Is anyone managing an agency is a considered a pimp in your eyes? (open question)
That's a little bit what I was hinting at. But I'm sure some employers are better than others. I don't really know what to think because I don't know this person and I don't know the motives behind owning an agency.
Someone could want to start an agency or own a mp to offer a safer place for sps to work at and have genuinely good intentions.. but it's still for profit so idk if you could say these intentions are "pure"
We read you the first 2 times dude, we know you don’t think Mia Xo is a good person, knock it off!
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You mean like we heard you that you would enter into a fight with a scammer or a pimp umpteen times lol.
Never been to a mp so I don’t know what to expect except for LaMontréalaise who advertise that “full service” is on the menu. I don’t know what is a so called “ethical” rate for agencies but I know that prostitution is still regulated by demand and supply so if girls think their salaries is not enough like I said before the solution might be to going indy or finding an actual career.
No one is forcing these women to stay in those horrible working environment tbh, they can walk out after the first shift (many prostitutes appear only once on popular website like Xo or Euphoria and dissapear forever)*.
If that’s how you feel we can end the discussion, no hard feelings.
I know what you mean. There's a difference between a person who is forcing you to work as a SP and not allowing you to quit, and someone who is just an exploitative employer. All I'm saying is that there are nuances of grey in these situations.. and it's not because you can just quit that it means the way your employer is treating you is right. And I agree with you that going indy is a good solution, it's just that I know a lot of people work for agencies or MPs precisely because they can't work as indy's. (too young and inexperienced, no space to work, the indy work load being too much, etc) And yea we can end the discussion here, great idea.
Well let me arrive like "un cheveux sur la soupe" 
To answer the original thread question, i am personally extremely careful and i wouldn't see myself going to an incall that is not from either a reputed agency or a reputed indy (someone who been advertising for a while, has a huge social presence, indy friends etc). Often i see ads on LL that seem "good" but i don't think i would ever pull the trigger because i don't want to risk anything. Im not drawn by "the thrill of the hunt" like some peoples. I meet only a few times a year and i have a "list" of SPs i wanna see already longer than the number of meetings i can do. That said IF hypotetically it was gonna happen, unless the guy is with friends or pull out a gun, i would totally confront him. Im big, i know how to fight, im not afraid of a 1 on 1 fight, even if the guy has a pocket knife.
Now for the other subject this seem to have diluted in... I don't see agencies as "pimps". I see them the same way as i see talent agencies for pornstars. They don't have to join them, they can self book with companies or only do OF, but they join them because of the benefits it can bring (they book work for them, they have connections with companies etc) Same way an actor or a musician has a manager. All these peoples get a cut because they handle a part of the "work". It seem when its prostitution some peoples see this as a negative that SPs would give a cut to the agency. Why? They pay the advertisement, they offer an incall/driver, they handle all the bookings, the SPs basically only have to give the days she want to work and show up... thats it. Some SPs actually enjoy them. There is plenty of them wich have been in agencies for years and they could make so much more as indies, but they most likely like to keep it "simple". Wich is fine by me. The agency work for them, not the other way around. And they free to leave anytime they want. Thats not the definition of "pimping" for me.
To answer the original thread question, i am personally extremely careful and i wouldn't see myself going to an incall that is not from either a reputed agency or a reputed indy (someone who been advertising for a while, has a huge social presence, indy friends etc). Often i see ads on LL that seem "good" but i don't think i would ever pull the trigger because i don't want to risk anything. Im not drawn by "the thrill of the hunt" like some peoples. I meet only a few times a year and i have a "list" of SPs i wanna see already longer than the number of meetings i can do. That said IF hypotetically it was gonna happen, unless the guy is with friends or pull out a gun, i would totally confront him. Im big, i know how to fight, im not afraid of a 1 on 1 fight, even if the guy has a pocket knife.
Now for the other subject this seem to have diluted in... I don't see agencies as "pimps". I see them the same way as i see talent agencies for pornstars. They don't have to join them, they can self book with companies or only do OF, but they join them because of the benefits it can bring (they book work for them, they have connections with companies etc) Same way an actor or a musician has a manager. All these peoples get a cut because they handle a part of the "work". It seem when its prostitution some peoples see this as a negative that SPs would give a cut to the agency. Why? They pay the advertisement, they offer an incall/driver, they handle all the bookings, the SPs basically only have to give the days she want to work and show up... thats it. Some SPs actually enjoy them. There is plenty of them wich have been in agencies for years and they could make so much more as indies, but they most likely like to keep it "simple". Wich is fine by me. The agency work for them, not the other way around. And they free to leave anytime they want. Thats not the definition of "pimping" for me.
