you're probably right, it just seem futile there are a load of people i don't agree with and vice versa and we're probably won't change each other's mind in here. What's tiring is that it seems there's no topic that doesn't derail in agressive comments and/or personal attacks. Anyway as i mentioned in a pm, maybe i'm in zen mode today and it seems more obvious than it was the days before..... just a random thought as the title saidI think some topics are generally more volatile and there are some long lasting “feuds” between very active members that adds oil to the fire.