Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

boboi · Mar 17, 2026

I am not gonna shame people for using agencies, the value proposition is very strong:
1- Most Indys are 30+ very rare to find Indy in her 20
2- pound for pound, Indys charge around double
3- Agencies have multiple choices and if the girl cancels they will make it right, which is a big deal for busy people.
4- they do have an overhead and 80$ an hour cut for agencies seems reasonable (rent, marketing, unhappy customers, transportation)

LC18 · Mar 17, 2026

boboi said:
Agencies have multiple choices and if the girl cancels they will make it right

Yes, cause women are basically merchandise. One isn't available? We'll replace her, the client is king

Alicemay · Mar 17, 2026

boboi said:
I am not gonna shame people for using agencies, the value proposition is very strong:
1- Most Indys are 30+ very rare to find Indy in her 20
2- pound for pound, Indys charge around double
3- Agencies have multiple choices and if the girl cancels they will make it right, which is a big deal for busy people.
4- they do have an overhead and 80$ an hour cut for agencies seems reasonable (rent, marketing, unhappy customers, transportation)

That doesnt include transportation, if you have a chauffeur you have to pay him to even it’s rhe agency chauffeur.

Alicemay · Mar 17, 2026

Alicemay said:
That doesnt include transportation, if you have a chauffeur you have to pay him to even it’s rhe agency chauffeur.

My day in agency it’s was 50% at least

LC18 · Mar 17, 2026

boboi said:
they do have an overhead and 80$ an hour cut for agencies seems reasonable (rent, marketing, unhappy customers, transportation)

You know very well they could charge less than that with how many women were on their rooster

boboi · Mar 17, 2026

LC18 said:
Yes, cause women are basically merchandise. One isn't available? We'll replace her, the client is king

I think this logic applies to many industries, I know that it's easy to make it personal in the hobby, but the same reason people go to a studio for massage therapy vs 1 person operation, or hire a cleaning agency, or hire a big business for construction work vs a dude on marketplace.
I am just trying to explain the flip side, personally I don't use agencies.

Smokemeal2 · Mar 17, 2026

Giselle Montreal said:
But I didn't know there were penalties and fees for being late or not going to an appointment. It may lead to coercion.

I can confirm this was the second version of XO. Not the first one.

The famous Jennifer (back to 2015, 2016 era if I remember well) was ALWAYS late but didn't pay any fees haha

Smokemeal2 · Mar 17, 2026

LC18 said:
You know very well they could charge less than that with how many women were on their rooster

They could, but they need to make money too. A lot of it. And they need protection.

For the years I have seen girls at the agency, I could generally categorize them into 2 groups.

The hot moneymaker. This one was a student and was great at being an escort, but not to be fooled, they were there for 1 to 2 years max and racked up 300k or more.

The hot troublemaker. This one was a party animal, like. They were great escorts, but you could feel it was not leading up to anything good. Too much booze, smokes, drugs...

LC18 · Mar 17, 2026

"Why didn't they say something sooner?"

You've read the article and you're still here justifying the agency's actions, that's probably why no one spoke about their work conditions

hob12 · Mar 17, 2026

The agency vs indy debate is a bit pointless. Bottom line its about price and convenience for the clients. With an agency you only have to nurture one relationship vs one with each indy who often ask things like references or pictures of IDs. Its a more complicated environment. Prices are also way out there in many cases.

Georgy07 · Mar 17, 2026

hob12 said:
The agency vs indy debate is a bit pointless. Bottom line its about price and convenience for the clients. With an agency you only have to nurture one relationship vs one with each indy who often ask things like references or pictures of IDs. Its a more complicated environment. Prices are also way out there in many cases.

To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

Julia Sky · Mar 17, 2026

hob12 said:
The agency vs indy debate is a bit pointless. Bottom line its about price and convenience for the clients. With an agency you only have to nurture one relationship vs one with each indy who often ask things like references or pictures of IDs. Its a more complicated environment. Prices are also way out there in many cases.

There are Independents with lower prices. There are also people with morals who, regardless of the industry, don't mind spending more or putting more effort to get something ethical. There are also expensive indies, yes, just as there are also people who don't mind turning a blind eye to the possibility of abusive work conditions if it means they get a less expensive, more convenient booking experience.

The lack of screening and the lack of fucks given are some of the main reasons why people experience traumatic bullshit at agencies. Or in this industry in general. I used to be someone who didn't screen. It was not a pretty time for me as an escort.

CLOUD 500 · Mar 17, 2026

This could be the beginning of the end of agencies. XO was one. But police could go after others if they receive complaints. This means that the hobby will become very similar to the US. The agencies are the biggest reason that prices remained very competitive. Agencies are also very convenient, no government ID or deposit needed.

LC18 · Mar 17, 2026

Georgy07 said:
To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

Probably because of the men always asking for younger and younger girls. Always complaining that women are expired as soon as they turn 22

TheJames101 · Mar 17, 2026

Georgy07 said:
To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

Do they all? Hopefully not, but one can't know. I just truly hope I never encountered one in the few times I used xo (only 6 or 7 times total). It saddens me to hear how some there were treated. Awful that minors were involved - just morally unforgivable.

hob12 · Mar 17, 2026

Georgy07 said:
To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

Obviously and XO paid dearly for that and other fuck ups.Though I noticed that in the article that this happened in 2017 while the investigation started in 2024. Makes you wonder if that particular allegation has any legs. If yes then why did the cops waited 7 years?

LC18 · Mar 17, 2026

hob12 said:
Obviously and XO paid dearly for that and other fuck ups.Though I noticed that in the article that this happened in 2017 while the investigation started in 2024. Makes you wonder if that particular allegation has any legs. If yes then why did the cops waited 7 years?

Le systeme de justice, de police et la bureaucratie

nothinghere · Mar 17, 2026

What a freaking story omg undercover prostitutes undercover clients and undercover dad!!?? Agency suspects driving around in a unregistered vehicle how ingenious!!?? And the police managed to search the vehicle on what grounds I wonder? I think that new bill C46 was active where police can search anyone for any reason. They pushed it to the limits in that condo complex it brings Flashbacks to early 2000's I was seeing so many girls from Asservissante that a neighbour threaten to report me to DPG Quebec and police yea residential areas are now really sketch to invite escorts the neighbours always seem to know and now with this article residents will have an extra eye everywhere.

Georgy07 · Mar 17, 2026

hob12 said:
Obviously and XO paid dearly for that and other fuck ups.Though I noticed that in the article that this happened in 2017 while the investigation started in 2024. Makes you wonder if that particular allegation has any legs. If yes then why did the cops waited 7 years?

Yeah well, 18 is really young too. If i had an agency (Which will never happen) i would make it 25 +

Gazoo64 · Mar 17, 2026

Scary stuff!

Probably a good time to take a break from this hobby, or at the very least not see agency SPs.

Lately I’ve been seeing mostly Indies anyway.

Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

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