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For visitors to Whistler during the 2010 Winter Olympics, the blue-eyed huskies that took tourists on sleds into the wilderness were icons of Canada.
For those who work with those dogs, the animals are much more than a livelihood, they are close companions.
When news broke Monday of the mass slaughter of at least 70 dogs last April, dog sledders across Canada reacted with sheer horror – and disgust.
“Any dog sledder who culls dogs at the end of a season should be culled himself, as far as we’re concerned,” said Paul McCormick, head dog sledding guide for Wilderness Adventures, a Toronto-based company that runs dog-sledding trips through Canada’s Algonquin Park.
“You don’t go out and cull dogs,” he said. “We’re part of the largest dog sled operation in the world with 40 dogs and we never cull dogs. We retire them, they’re adopted ... there are a lot of alternatives.”
An employee of Outdoor Adventures Whistler says he killed at least 70 dogs over two days. The huskies, weighing about 40 to 50 pounds, were used for dog sled tours during the 2010 Winter Olympics, but were uneconomic to keep after the Games were over and the tourists went home.
In response to concerns over the killings, Tourism Whistler on Monday suspended reservations for dog sledding at Outdoor Adventures Whistler, which is owned by Joey Houssian, son of the founder of Intrawest Corp., Joe Houssian. Full refunds will be provided for those who booked a dog sledding tour with the company and want their money back.
Spokesman Graham Aldcroft told reporters the company had expected a proper, legal and humane manner would be used to euthanize the dogs. Company officials heard last Friday that as many as 100 dogs were put down on April 21 and April 23 in a brutal manner.
The Outdoor Adventures kennel is between the communities of Whistler and Pemberton, surrounded by snow-covered trees and at the end of a rarely travelled road. The kennel was at one point home to the dozens of dogs who were culled. Kennel staff wouldn’t comment on the situation Monday, although they were visibly shaken.
About 150 dogs still call the kennel home. When they’re not on the dog sled tour, the racing huskies bide their time play-fighting, barking at unfamiliar faces and chewing their doghouses. Some of the dogs at the kennel have long since retired. The kennel has been unable to find homes for them because of their age, so they remain at the facility, frolicking with the other animals.
A report filed by WorkSafeBC on a claim for compensation for post-traumatic distress disorder sets out the details of the killings in graphic detail.
WorkSafeBC said an employee with Outdoor Adventures Whistler received compensation after he was required to shoot the dogs, but it declined to identify the manager who was responsible for the killing.
The report says the employee, who lived at the same location as the dogs, handled hundreds of dogs. Occasionally he euthanized animals, using a gun, with the support of a veterinarian.
In April, 2010, his job was to cull the herd of about 300 by about 100 dogs. A veterinarian was contacted but refused to euthanize healthy animals. Attempts were made to adopt out the dogs, but with only limited success.
The report states the employee had killed more than a dozen dogs when he came to Suzie, the mother of his family’s pet dog, Bumble. The blast from his gun wounded her horribly, and her screams of pain made him drop the leash. Eventually he had to use a gun with a scope to finish her off at a distance. Other dogs attacked him when he went to retrieve the body.
The employee told WorkSafeBC he performed what he described as “execution-style” killings, where he wrestled the dogs to the ground and stood on them with one foot to shoot them.
Incidents on April 23 were worse, the report says. About 20 minutes after he shot a dog named Nora, he noticed that she was crawling around a mass grave he had dug for the animals.
After hearing about the mass slaughter, the BC SPCA, who have authority in B.C. to make recommendations on prosecution to Crown counsel, launched an investigation. The SPCA began its investigation into the killings Monday. SPCA spokeswoman Marcie Moriarty said she believes the killings are Criminal Code offences.
The employee’s lawyer, Corey Steinberg, declined Monday to comment on the case or reveal the identity of his client. The company stated in a news release that the employee was the general manager and he had ceased managing the business not long after the events in late April.
Significant changes were made after the events of last April to ensure humane treatment of the dogs and improve safety protocols, the company also stated. Any dogs requiring euthanasia are taken to a veterinarian's office and no firearms are on the site, the release says.
 

Ricky bonds

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This Is the sugar coated version....
from what I hear from my cousin, and aunt who live in b.c.. it was much more horrific.!
This isn't the typical story you'd expect to hear from Canada( not saying we are better than anyone else ).. But, I for one am disgusted.. And repulsed by this news.
Any dog lovers care to comment..?
 

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Irrelevant comment.. But I just read the day before hearing this disgusting, day ruining news...
About how new studies prove that dogs can be trained to help out individuals who suffer with severe epilepsy( is that spelled right?)..
And through these studies, they discovered that in some cases the patients dog would suddenly react differently.. In a way that was sufficient enough to alarm the researchers.... Upon further observation, soon after the dogs reaction..the patient Suffered a severe epileptic seizure.! Which lead the researchers to understand that the dog was somehow able to predict the seizure before it occurred,which in turn could save the patients life.( had he not been in a controlled environment )
Sixth sense?, change in magnetic field?, something in the scent?.. Either way, it's enough to merit further studies into this interesting discovery, and another quality to add to the long list of things 'mans best friend' could do to benefit Individuals around them.

another thought?.. you would think that owning a husky that was used in the world famous olympics.. Whether it was for tourism or the games..would add to it's value, and facilitate an adoption.?
 
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Personally, I think Dogs should have the same protections under the law as people. Then again, I like Dogs more than people. People suck.

Killing the Dogs was pure laziness and greed on the part of the business. Almost every breed has a rescue organization. And while space is normally at a premium at shelters, the various shelters do network and low capacity shelters often take-in Dogs from hundreds of miles away. Shelters also have foster home arrangements with people in the community. I also find it hard to believe that the company didn't think about marketing the Dogs as Olympic souveniers; there would have been takers - I'm sure of it. Assholes. The Dog killer and the business owner should be stomped on, shot, and fed to the Dogs. Payback, especially in this case, should be a bitch.

Unfortunately, it is often legal to kill any animal that is yours as long as you do it humanely. Killing someone else's animal without their consent will get you an unlawful mischief charge (for destruction of property), if the killing wasn't done in self-defense, and an animal abuse charge, if it was done inhumanely. Interestingly, wild animals (especially endangered ones), seem to have more rights than domesticated ones. In Vermont, preservation of wild game is taken so seriously that game wardens are actually allowed to have deer blood analyzed at the crime lab (we're talking DNA analysis, here) to prove that a particular person poached a particular deer; I shit you not.
 

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A dog is man's best friend. I have a family member who has an assistance dog. This dog is an invaluable part of their family. U.S. law gives this dog the same rights as his master. There is another old saying that says you can't teach an old dog new tricks. The dogs that were senselessly and needlessly slaughtered, could have been given new homes, lives, and another chance at a different purpose. It takes a special temperment to be a service type dog, and I'm not saying the sled dogs could have become service dogs, but there could have been a lot more effort made to save them. A dog can be trained to do nearly anything. Police Dog, Search and Rescue, Drug Detection, Epilepsy (yes, Ricky, you spelled it right) and Cancer Detection, to name a very few.
Whomever it was that ordered the slaughter, and whomever did the killing, should suffer the same fate as those unfortunate animals. That is my American train of thought for justice, and I apologize to anyone offended by it, but those dogs did not deserve the fate they were handed.
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Aeolus.. I couldn't agree more.
I would of adopted one.. Even physically picked it up..Love it.. And care for it..
Especially today, it would of been much easier getting around downtown with huskies and a sleigh.
 

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Hmmm... just for the sake of the argument: meanwhile, hunting is legal and perfectly accepted (by most).
Is a cute dog better than a moose?
 

Ricky bonds

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Hmmm... just for the sake of the argument: meanwhile, hunting is legal and perfectly accepted (by most).
Is a cute dog better than a moose?

Hunting is legal, yet controlled.. And limited.( somewhat )
Owning land on the south shore that is hunted on for deer.. I don't know too many people that hunt to throw dead animals in a mass grave..?
And before the argument that with today's grocery stores, there is no need to hunt arises?..
I dont eat the genetically modified, steroid pumped meat off the shelf..?
I eat my natural wild deer instead....
 

Royal

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Is it me or is no one willing to look at the other side of the coin/medal/affair here. Clearly, this could have been better done, but under the circumstances, maybe that's all they could do. Let me give you a glimpse:

a) Veterinarian refused to euthanize healthy dogs,
b) Uncapable to pay for the survival of the dogs, no money for food = potentially angry dogs
c) Less tourism in this market, no more excercise for all these dogs, some go out, some stay continually in the kennel
d) this results in an unhappy animal, stressed, behavioral hazard if you ask me : (ex of stress behavior: eating and bitting your own doghouse as stipulated in the article)
e) Unsuccessfull attemps at adoptions, and if the dogs were to be taken care of by the SPCA they would i) en up in a smaller cage then that of the kennel, for a husky that's inhumane, ii) probably be euthanized too.
d) With everything that has just been put forward, the dogs were miserable, and that was just the beginning of the misery if they were allowed to live in the conditions they were living in.
f) Having no veterinarian on hand, leaves you with only one other option, a clean kill... Just like we do for horses when their racing career is over due to a wound etc...
g) The only mistake here is not having a good marksman and leaving the job to some loser: when you kill an animal, you should shoot to kill so as to give the animal as little suffering as possible, that's what we call humane behavor.
h) Dogs are property too, so rules of law concerning property apply too. In this strict sense, the owners did nothing wrong. But it should be decided if unnecessary cruelty was used... we'll see how that goes obviously.

All of this makes it a tragedy, but that's what it is, a sad tragedy of life, and we all know how life is unfair. Also, people who treat dogs like people don't know anything about dogs. You should watch the Dog Whisperer every once in a while. There's nothing worse than a person treating a dog like a human. A dog needs rules that he knows about being right by instinct. If you treat him like a human you'll be doing him a disservice. Dogs don't have complex emotions like we do, when you think he does, you're just mirroring your own onto him.
 
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Aeolus

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Also, people who treat dogs like people don't know anything about dogs.

Those who treat Dogs better than people are the ones who know the most about Dogs.

There's nothing worse than a person treating a dog like a human. A dog needs rules that he knows about being right by instinct. If you treat him like a human you'll be doing him a disservice.

Oh, please! The fact that I treated my last Dog like royalty did not do her any disservice. She never complained. The only ones who ever complained where those who were jealous because I thought more of my Dog than I did of them. My Dog was a better person than they were. What did they expect?

Dogs don't have complex emotions like we do, when you think he does, you're just mirroring your own onto him.

Hogwash. Just because they can't verbalize does not mean that they don't express emotions. Emotions can be observed in their behavior. Spend enough time with a Dog, and you'll see.
 

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I have always tought communication between living species was not always possible
cause of the differences between languages, of preferably, the difference in time
they have evolutated through history.

Imagine if it was true ! In a far far far away time from now, cockroaches could
understand if they never show their faces during daytime, we would never
notice !

Oh wait ! They already know that !


lol ! :cool:
 

Royal

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Meh, think what you want, but everything I said comes from Ceasar Millan's mouth, who knows tons more about dogs than you do. Whatever u say is worthless in comparison of all his work, studies, and knowledge of the canine speacies. He's got a reputation unmatched.
 

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If they find the guy, they should put him in prison. The guys inside will make him the public bitch.
 

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"a lot more"? That's the understatement of the year. Hell, almost nothing was done!
I agree.
Hmmm... just for the sake of the argument: meanwhile, hunting is legal and perfectly accepted (by most).
Is a cute dog better than a moose?
Yes, a dog is "cuter" than a moose. Moose are game animals and hunted for meat. Dogs are not eaten in the civilized world. No arguement.
Meh, think what you want, but everything I said comes from Ceasar Millan's mouth, who knows tons more about dogs than you do. Whatever u say is worthless in comparison of all his work, studies, and knowledge of the canine speacies. He's got a reputation unmatched.
I agree with you, Royal. Dogs are not people. As I said in post #10, my family member who has a service dog, told me that they are taught that dogs are reactionary animals and need to be treated as such by teaching them that there is a master and that master needs to control the dog. The service animal organization trains the dogs to do this. Mr. Millan's methods are different than theirs, but the results are very similar. The main difference is that Mr. Millan teaches people how to train the family pet, and the service dogs are taught to help disabled people. As much as I love dogs, I can't stand an undisiplined dog that won't be quiet when told, jumps on you, and that sort of thing.
I said it before, these sled dogs should not have been slaughtered. It seems that nothing was done to find new homes or places for them.
Sweetwater
 

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OMG! Did this really happen? I can't believe that someone would treat 100 dogs like this. Michael Vick went to prison for something like this.

Royal - I understand your comment but I am a dog lover and I can't believe that people would not have adopted/rescued those dogs. This is not Asia. We don't slaughter dogs like cattle here. I am really disturbed by the shear number of trained dogs. There had to be a better way than this?
 

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in this era where Human life is considered worthless, Where doctors don't treat the sick because -no health insurance , wars are fought because of personal gains, children are found in dumpsters, Children donot call their parents even in 3 years, and there is no more room in old age homes....This is hardly a surprise.....
 

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OMG! Did this really happen? ... Michael Vick went to prison for something like this.

Royal - I understand your comment but I am a dog lover and I can't believe that people would not have adopted/rescued those dogs.... There had to be a better way than this?
Yes, it really happened. As I understand it, Michael Vic went to prison for raising and training dogs to fight to the death, not slaughtering them, which is just as heinous.
If I may respond to your comment to Royal, the news reports say that they "tried" to find homes and adopt the dogs out, but no one seems to have heard the pleas for new homes. They obviously didn't try very hard or, so it seems, actually didn't try at all.
Sweetwater
 
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For the record Vick was accused, found guilty and served time for more than "training" dogs to fight. Here is a link that will clear up some questions...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3148549

While he did not "dispose" of dogs to the degree it was done in this story...he did kill dogs.


I read this story a couple of days ago when it broke...it is reprehensible, inhumane and just plain disgusting.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41361549/ns/world_news-americas/

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/2/4/apworld/20110204141959&sec=apworld

http://animalrights.about.com/b/2011/02/02/100-sled-dogs-killed-in-canada-after-tourism-slump.htm

YES there are many ways these dogs could have been helped...even had they been left free into the wild to fend for themselves...it would have been better than the fate they were dealt. If the owner was financially unable to provide for the dogs they should have immediately put out pleas for help...rather it appears they let the dogs suffer until they got to the point where perhaps they had to be killed.

Sad, very sad...

Jman
 
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