2013 Official Major League Baseball Thread.

[rumpleforeskiin]

2. Some teams have everything they need from the start. The 2007 Red Sox for example. I don't agree with Rumps on this point this year, but so far they are proving me wrong.

Read what I said, Merlot. I KNOW that you are capable of understanding. What I said, again, was the Sox appear to need nothing. They're getting solid to great pitching from five guys, the offense is booming, the bullpen is lights out. They have a .720 winning record. In all likelihood, needs will appear, but right now there aren't any. In all likelihood, the Sox will not continue on a 117 win pace.

Oh, and by the way, the Yankees, as well as the Sox, are likely to see more injuries down the road.The Yankees, however, because of all the age on their roster are likely to see more than the Sox. Oh, and by the way, Kevin Youkilis will be having an MRI tomorrow on his bum back.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Truth of the matter is this, Thee NYY are doing much better than any non Yanks fans (in this thread) thought possible after the first month of the season. While now would be the time for the red sox and Blue Jays to make a ton of ground on the severly injured Yankees team, that has not happened and that is not a good thing for the red sox and esp the Jays who have sucked worst than the suckiest suck that has ever sucked so far this early season.

Cashmans due diligence aka homework in spring training has paid wonders so far. Hafner, Wells, and Overbay were tremendous additions.

It does not matter how they are getting wins, but is important they are while their big guys are on the DL, and thats a fact-Jack. All i know is boston better keep winning while the Yanks are w/o Granderson, Tex, Arod and the Cap'n.

PS, i think it is about time the Blue Jays wake up, starting with the red sox series tomorrow. :thumb:

 

[daydreamer41]

DD, responding to your unanalyzed responses by number.
1. Yes, the Yankees are 4th in the league in scoring, but how? By scoring 23% of their runs in 2 games or 8% of their games, against atrocious pitching. They scored another 5 runs, and 2 wins, on a wild throw and dropped fly ball. They've scored another 79 runs in 22 games, or 3.59 runs per game. Their current record is the result of a) luck and b) pitching. The Toronto and Tampa pitchers are not, as you say, in a slump. The Yankees scored an unimpressive 19 runs in four games against Toronto this weekend, despite the fact that the Jays number two pitcher was scrapped in place of another who made two visits to the waiver wire within the past week.

So the Yankees had 2 blow out games. You play one game at a time. Toronto still has good pitching. You can discount it all you want, and you can take Laffey out of the equation, and the Blue Jays still have good pitchers, and the Yankees were able to sweep the other games. RA Dickey was winning a 2-1 game before he gave up a 2 run HR. It's just amazing how you minimize a team because they lose.

2. You don't read so good. What you said I said was "you have declared that the Red Sox have everything they need..." There's not a lick of truth in that. What I said was, "The Red Sox appear to have everything they need..." Would you like me to define "appear" for you? Any team with a .720 record would appear to have everything they need. I then clearly suggested that needs will appear. They always do. They always will. If you try watching a few games, maybe you might learn a few things about the game.

So you use the word appear, and use it as a dis-qualifier, rumps. And then you call me a bad reader. Talk about insults and being condescending. Adding the word appear doesn't change your statement much - The Red Sox have everything they need or The Red Sox appear to have everything they need ... there's little difference in that statement. You could have said I think ... and you are splitting hairs between everything you say.

3. The Yankees front 3 starters are 38, 40 and 32. Their fourth starter is 26 and they don't at the moment have a fifth. The Sox front three starters are 28, 29 and 35. Their fourth is 24, their fifth 34. That's a huge difference. Yes, the Sox are only 1 year younger than the Yankees. However, the players who make a difference are many years younger. The Yankees front three starters average 36.67 years. The Sox three starters average 30.67. That's a six year difference.

For sure, the Yankees are lacking consistent young pitching for the future. However, for 2013, so far they have been okay. Are we talking about 2013, or 2014, 2015? For next year and beyond, the Yankees are betting on Nova, and Pineda to develop and Hughes to mature. Nova has been spotty. Pineda is unknown. Hughes looked good today. He needs consistency for him to be a proven quantity. But I am willing to say so if that is the case. You would never be objective and say the Red Sox have a weak spot in their pitching. To be frank, the Red Sox have 2 good pitchers at the moment.

The difference between you and me is that you throw numbers around. I analyze them. That's all the difference in the world.

No, rumps, you are condescending and nonobjective. The only analysis you ever make is what suits your case. And the numbers you cite are arbitrary at best.

 

[daydreamer41]

Read what I said, Merlot. I KNOW that you are capable of understanding. What I said, again, was the Sox appear to need nothing. They're getting solid to great pitching from five guys, the offense is booming, the bullpen is lights out. They have a .720 winning record. In all likelihood, needs will appear, but right now there aren't any. In all likelihood, the Sox will not continue on a 117 win pace.

Oh, and by the way, the Yankees, as well as the Sox, are likely to see more injuries down the road.The Yankees, however, because of all the age on their roster are likely to see more than the Sox. Oh, and by the way, Kevin Youkilis will be having an MRI tomorrow on his bum back.

That magic word appear and disappear. Make believe rumps never said anything. :lol: Get it???

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I don't know what your first language is,Dd, but in English there is all the difference in the world between something that is and something which appears to be. One is real and definite one only seems so. While the Sox don't appear to have any needs now, an astute student of the game knows that needs will arise over the course of any season.

Actually, both the Red Sox and Yankees have three solid pitchers with successful histories. The difference is that the two of the three Yankee pitchers are very old, none is young. None of the Red Sox three is very old, and two are young.

The Yankees won this weekend because of their pitching, not their pitiful offense. The only reason Overbay's HR helped win the game was because Hughes stymied the Jays offense. Keep posting and maybe, if you keep an open mind (ha) you might learn something about the game. And just maybe something about the English language.

 

[daydreamer41]

Truth of the matter is this, Thee NYY are doing much better than any non Yanks fans (in this thread) thought possible after the first month of the season. While now would be the time for the red sox and Blue Jays to make a ton of ground on the severly injured Yankees team, that has not happened and that is not a good thing for the red sox and esp the Jays who have sucked worst than the suckiest suck that has ever sucked so far this early season.

Cashmans due diligence aka homework in spring training has paid wonders so far. Hafner, Wells, and Overbay were tremendous additions.

It does not matter how they are getting wins, but is important they are while their big guys are on the DL, and thats a fact-Jack. All i know is boston better keep winning while the Yanks are w/o Granderson, Tex, Arod and the Cap'n.

PS, i think it is about time the Blue Jays wake up, starting with the red sox series tomorrow. :thumb:

Your analysis is so on target lggy. Don't you wish the self-proclaimed resident "expert" could analyze the situation as well as you stated it?

The amazing part about the season so far is Boston has been playing way above their heads. Toronto has been playing way below their potential. Tampa Bay has been playing poorly also. And the Yankees have 1/2 of their lineup on the DL.

So the Yankees start out really poorly losing 4 out their first 5 games and the Yanks are in second place only 2 1/2 games behind the red hot Red Sox near the end of April.

That must really bug the hell out of some fans of the current first place team in the AL East. Don't you think?

 

[daydreamer41]

I don't know what your first language is,Dd, but in English there is all the difference in the world between something that is and something which appears to be. One is real and definite one only seems so. While the Sox don't appear to have any needs now, an astute student of the game knows that needs will arise over the course of any season.

Actually, both the Red Sox and Yankees have three solid pitchers with successful histories. The difference is that the two of the three Yankee pitchers are very old, none is young. None of the Red Sox three is very old, and two are young.

The Yankees won this weekend because of their pitching, not their pitiful offense. The only reason Overbay's HR helped win the game was because Hughes stymied the Jays offense. Keep posting and maybe, if you keep an open mind (ha) you might learn something about the game. And just maybe something about the English language.

Very condescending of you, rumps. Getting personal, aren't you?

Anyhow, appear is a verb that means perceive. It's your perception, because you are saying it. So what difference does it make if YOU say The Red Sox appear not to need anything further or don't say appear ... The Red Sox do not need anything further ... It's really a meaningless word in that context, because rumps it's your perception no matter which way you say it.

So you are saying to me you used the word appear and it becomes a dis-qualifier in your mind - like it seems like they need nothing more, but I (rumps) am not sure. You can't use words like that, rumps. You should know better.

And watch your condescending speech to me - like you can teach me baseball or English. I probably know more than you in both subjects, but I know enough not to make claims like that with people I don't know well. But watching you here, maybe I can make that claim.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Biggest surprises for red sox fans in first mth of the season: 1. the red sox 2. The Yankees

Biggest surprises for Blue Jays fans in first mth of the season 1. The Jays

Biggest surprises for Yankees fans in first mth of the season 1. None, 15-9 record is right about what was expected.

Tom Verducci "I have not seen a drop off in Mariano Rivera, he could easily get 40 saves or more this season"

 

[Special K]

Gotta agree with Verducci, Mo's defying the odds. For Yankees sake hopefully he remains healthy.

 

[Special K]

PS, i think it is about time the Blue Jays wake up, starting with the red sox series tomorrow. :thumb:

Kind of like the way Houston woke up in the Bronx tonight! Such an embarrassing battering for poor Andy. Taking bets he's on the DL by Wednesday!

 

[Merlot]

Hey Boyz,

You may think rumps knows much about baseball and more than anyone, Merlot, but it's not reality. I have been reading his posts. His opinions expressed in his posts are not at the least objective.

You do nothing but post according to who you like, and get negative personally with anyone you don't like. Credibility 0.

Can I assume it`s official, if you get my drift, talk about kissing ass.

You mean as opposed to the tight male bonding you and Iggy constantly exchange...idolizer to hero and vice versa. "Igna69xxx is my hero" - Joe.t, "My tribute to one mister Joe.T" - Iggy. Touching! Kiss Kiss!!!

While the Sox don't appear to have any needs now, an astute student of the game knows that needs will arise over the course of any season.

In all likelihood, the Sox will not continue on a 117 win pace.

Did you see you noted the same reality I was referring to, that this pace is unsustainable.

Your statement was fine as far as it went. But some of us are thinking further into the season. While the current run is impressive, the level of pitching we have seen must come down to earth a bit, along with the some better than the norm hitting by a few. While some like Middlebrooks and probably Ellsbury will improve, overall there should be leveling. I'm very happy with the pitching and I believe it will continue at a high level after a slight tapering off. Otherwise there is plenty of room for improvement in the lineup.

Note: I write my opinion as it is, honestly, without worrying who is on whose side, unlike all of the Yankees fans...even if some of what I say may agree with them on occasion.

Kind of like the way Houston woke up in the Bronx tonight! Such an embarrassing battering for poor Andy. Taking bets he's on the DL by Wednesday!

Toronto was supposed to be very good, so losing to them would not be shocking. But losing to the worst team in the American League is humiliation extraordinaire. It was so bad that the season ticket holders of all those empty seats are cringing in shame. The Astros never got closer to the Sox than 4 runs per game in 4 games. How the hell did the Stipers get such an embarrassing beat down by that team. I guess there was no stats orgasm for limpy Beav last night. Don't worry Beav, Andy has the FBI looking for his cutter. :lol:

:thumb:

Merlot

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

The amusing thing about Yankee fans saying how fabulous their team will be once all of their one-time all-star return seem to be ignoring a few things. 1) These guys are not what they were. 2) There will be more injuries. In just the last three days, Kevin Youkilis and Francisco Cervelli have joined the DL parade. Travis Hafner has played over 100 games once in the last five years. Andy Pettitte is 40. Mariano Rivera is 43. Hiroki Kuroda is 38. 3) Wrist injuries linger. Mark Teixeira is nowhere near returning. 4) Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez might not return at all in 2013 and, if they do, they will still be old.

 

[daydreamer41]

The amusing thing about Yankee fans saying how fabulous their team will be once all of their one-time all-star return seem to be ignoring a few things. 1) These guys are not what they were. 2) There will be more injuries. In just the last three days, Kevin Youkilis and Francisco Cervelli have joined the DL parade. Travis Hafner has played over 100 games once in the last five years. Andy Pettitte is 40. Mariano Rivera is 43. Hiroki Kuroda is 38. 3) Wrist injuries linger. Mark Teixeira is nowhere near returning. 4) Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez might not return at all in 2013 and, if they do, they will still be old.

Sure, rumps, these guys are not in their mid 20's, but you are like a broken record. Every chance you get you bring up age, etc. Mike Napoli and Shane Victorino are getting up there in age. David Ross, John Lackey and Ryan Dempster are no spring chickens.

Pettitte is probably pitching his last year. Rivera is pitching his last year and he has 9 saves in April. Kuroda is pitching pretty well, and he will not have a long career with the Yankees. Pineda will return sometime in the early summer.

Teixeira has the same injury that Jose Batista had. Batista is 6 months younger than Teixeira. Batista is doing pretty well this year. Teixeira, IF he needs surgery, could be out the rest of the year, but it's hard to tell if he will need surgery like Batista had. Granderson (who you left off your list) will return in a couple of weeks.

Once again, Jeter is in his last option year. The Yankees and Jeter will assess the situation when it arises on whether he will return for 2014. The Yankees need to find a replacement for Jeter soon. Nunez is a good defensive player with some rookie errors, but he's been average at the plate. The Yankees may be better off if Rodriguez never returns, but you never know. He may have a couple of good years left, but I am not optimistic about it.

Yes, the Yankees are a beat up group of guys at the moment. But that's baseball, rumps. In sports, any player can get injured.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Batista is doing pretty well this year.

Well, maybe Teixeira will do pretty well next year.

 

[Special K]

Reading back over the past several pages I am surprised to see the way some of the Red Sox fans here on Merb obsessively put down the Yankees and the slender 'evidence' they base their 'reasoning' on. Don't you guys still follow the Red Sox? Or do you now prefer to watch the Yankees so you can troll better on Merb?

Are you so blind as to not see the Yankee core fans here do the exact same thing? I'd love to have intelligent interaction and conversation here but you absolutely won't get that from your fellow fans.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Are you so blind as to not see the Yankee core fans here do the exact same thing?

Well, sort of the same thing, except that they don't bother with facts and statistical analysis to back up their opinions.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Opinion: The red sox based on "statistical analysis" were supossed to be the best team "Evah" 2 seasons ago and a decent team last season. (thats all we ever heard from rumpie, day after day after day after day after DAY)

Fact: So much for "statistical analysis" :eyebrows:

Chercherfemmes, the difference is the red sox fans after the last 2 seasons are unleashing a ton of frustration, and frankly i cant say i blame them after the horrible ending to 2011 and a horrible all of 2012. While it was fun to watch, we Yanks fans can play along and let them have their fun in the sun while things are going well for them. I highly doubt the red sox will make the playoffs, Joe.T's statistical analysis will hold true, just you wait and see.

Wow, i see Chien-Ming Wang has been lights out down on the farm, could he be another of Cashmans brilliant signings this offseason? Stay tuned folks.

Well, sort of the same thing, except that they don't bother with facts and statistical analysis to back up their opinions.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Matsui to sign again with Yankees

Nice job by the Yanks, very classy thing to do.

http://baseball.realgm.com/src_wire..._sign_deal_ceremoniously_retire_with_yankees/

 

[EagerBeaver]

Nice job by the Yanks, very classy thing to do.

http://baseball.realgm.com/src_wire..._sign_deal_ceremoniously_retire_with_yankees/

One of the greatest Yankees in the modern era of the club, and definitely one of my 3 favorites to wear pinstripes (Mattingly and Munson being the others). Godzilla!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBnG7NdpCMQ

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Nice job by the Yanks, very classy thing to do.

http://baseball.realgm.com/src_wire..._sign_deal_ceremoniously_retire_with_yankees/

Kind of reminiscent of what the Red Sox did with Nomar.