2013 Official Major League Baseball Thread.

[lgna69xxx]

Dont forget Jacoby Ellsbury......Look at his history below in the link provided and notice how after a injury filled 2010 season (ped's to get healthy maybe, hmmmmm) he came back the following season to smash 32 hr's and 46 dbl's and never came within a sniff of those #'s before or after......PED's Mr. Ellsbury I'd place that bet anyday of the week.


http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/teams/players/bio/?id=5945

What about 99% of the current players on PED's who get a free pass just because they didn't test positive and/or weren't caused in a sting set-up by the commissionary in cahoots with a bunch of criminals who cooperated only because they wanted to save their own asses??

Just saying.....

 

[lgna69xxx]

Not only did that awesome red sox bullpen blow another game tonight, they also allowed the Rays to "blow" right on by them to take over first place in the East...... must of been the full moon out tonight because it is not quite September yet.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I don't know if this is true or not but somebody told me that the hard hitting Yankees are the hottest team in baseball right now.

Only on Planet Joe.T. Or if by "right now," you mean "yesterday."

If you look at the last 20 games, the Yankees are a mighty 11-9, picking up one game on the 10-10 Rays and the 10-10 Red Sox. At that rate, the Yankees should catch both and be in first place by some time in December.

If you look at the Yankees record since they acquired future first ballot unanimous choice Hall of Famer Alfonso Soriano, they are a stunning 12-11.

Over on Planet Joe.T, the Yankees yesterday extending their winning streak to 142.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Dont forget Jacoby Ellsbury......Look at his history below in the link provided and notice how after a injury filled 2010 season (ped's to get healthy maybe, hmmmmm) he came back the following season to smash 32 hr's and 46 dbl's and never came within a sniff of those #'s before or after......PED's Mr. Ellsbury I'd place that bet anyday of the week.

Possibly, but it doesn't bother me since i've been pro-PED's from day 1. Having used HGH myself in the past (the Wonder Drug!!!) and knowing fully well that many 20 and 30 year old merbites use Viagra or Cialis prior when seeing sps, i have no problem with an athlete or a horny fucker wanting to make himself the best he can be.

If i'd get paid millions to play a juvenile game or sport, then it would be my belief that i owe it to my paying public (e.g. my employers) to be the best i can be & perform at an ultimate level, which would likely mean using some substances or get corrective eye surgery in order (or other means) to be a better performer.

p.s. If anyone reading this is planning a trip to Mexico, please let me know since i might be interested in having him bring me back a shipment of HGH, which is legal there and available in pharmacies, just like any steroid you may want. It'd be much cheaper than having to buy them off a dealer in a gym. My bad knee & sore hip will be very grateful to you. Thank you.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I have thought about this issue a lot. While it is true that taking cialis, levitra or viagra is technically using a PED, rendering us hypocrites for criticizing professional athletes who do it to enhance their chances of making money in their chosen career, I still am troubled by the concept of legalizing PEDs in baseball. Memories of Barry Bonds' swollen head, Mark McGwire's massive upper body and the Ken Caminiti tragedy trouble me. I think we would in effect be creating a new super race of steroid-infested, and perhaps crazed zombie like creatures. I saw some post booking video of Jared Remy (Jerry's son) and he appears to me to have a steroid-induced body and perhaps the rage is what led him to murder his GF. I think the Red Sox fired him in 2008 because of some involvement with steroids. In any event I do not know if it benefits society at all to create a race of such super-humans whose only positive attributes are the ability to swing a baseball bat with a massive power surge, and whose other attributes may also include rage induced murders.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Point well taken. However, until MLB greatly improves its testing procedures, then i'm all for allowing anything the athletes want to take. Let's face it: almost no one in MLB gets caught/tests positive anymore. Why is it that of all those players MLB accuses to have participated in that BioGenesis anti-aging clinic, almost none of them have tested positive for anything? Melky Cabrera tested positive last year for increased levels of testosterone. But who's to say that it was because of anything he took from that BioGenesis clinic? Maybe instead of using viagra or cialis, the guy asked his doctor to prescribe him testosterone medication? What if he took something else (e.g. Omega 3) that gradually caused increases in his testosterone levels?

Heck, even Barry Bonds has never tested positive for anything!!

There has also never been clear evidence that HGH increases performance. As far as i'm concerned, it assists in recovering from injury quicker, and makes you stronger. It's the Wonder Drug we've all been looking for which has anti-aging properties, used freely by the likes of Sylvester Stallone, Jean-Claude Van Damme & Arnold Schwarzegger, among others. Too bad Clint Eastwood hasn't considered using it, since he wouldn't look his age today had he done so.

If used responsibly under medical supervision, i have no problem with athletes using PED's if it's for medicinal purposes. Andy Pettite used them to recover quicker from injury.....they might have even saved his career. I have no problem with this whatsoever.

p.s. I saw a picture of Derek Jeter the other day and compared it with one of his earlier pictures. I swear his head must have increased in size by a good 30%.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I have thought about this issue a lot. While it is true that taking cialis, levitra or viagra is technically using a PED, rendering us hypocrites for criticizing professional athletes who do it to enhance their chances of making money in their chosen career.

Oh really, Beav? So are you suggesting that those of us who use PEDS for hobbying are gaining unfair advantage in their hobbying vs. other hobbyists who don't? You've posted a fair amount of stuff over the years that stretch the limits of credulity, but I think you might have outdone yourself here. Is there some form of PED that aids in the creation of lame arguments that you're taking without telling us/

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

If used responsibly under medical supervision, i have no problem with athletes using PED's if it's for medicinal purposes. Andy Pettite used them to recover quicker from injury.....they might have even saved his career. I have no problem with this whatsoever.

Nor do I, Doc, though there are numerous examples of fine players whose careers have ended early because their bodies have broken down from steroid use. Mark McGwire and Nomar Garciaparra are two examples. Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, and Bernie Williams are others. CC Sabathia seems to be on the same road.

 

[daydreamer41]

Nor do I, Doc, though there are numerous examples of fine players whose careers have ended early because their bodies have broken down from steroid use. Mark McGwire and Nomar Garciaparra are two examples. Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, and Bernie Williams are others. CC Sabathia seems to be on the same road.

Bernie Williams? Are you out of your mind? (we all know that answer). There is no evidence Bernie Williams used steriods, let alone had a broken down body.

Bernie Williams retired at age 37. His last year he batted .281, 12 HR, 61 BI, .768 OPS. He was under his career average, but he played respectfully in his last year. Williams didn't want to quit, but his contract was not renewed. He was a consistently good player. His career HR total was 30, which does not indicate any steroid use.

Of your list of Yankees, only Alex Rodriguez is suspected of steroid use. But I wouldn't expect less from you.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Anyone who looks at Bernie's #'s and thinks he was a roid user is Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out in left field (which really needs no explanation in the case of one around these parts, lol) but whats the answer for Ellsbury's sudden power surge for one season? (and coming off a injury the previous season, to which likely he used PED's to get healthy and continued to use for a full season, thus the incredible power surge for ONE season, never before nor repeated since) ....:thumb:

 

[lgna69xxx]

So whats the answer then? You cant possibly explain it other than PED's so save your fingers, boy

Love the post tho, finally one that does not need to be just skimmed over or ignored all together. :thumb:

and there it is from mr no scruplesatall. :lol:

 

[EagerBeaver]

I am watching the Blue Jays against the Yankees and it the same thing over and over with the Blue Jays when I see them. Terrible fundamentals and boneheaded plays. Davis picked off 2nd base by Mariano Rivera with 1 out in the 9th and Jays down 4-2. Where is he going? He is an asshole. And assholes do not deserve to win.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Nice to see Ichiro get his 4000th hit in the Pro's tonight, and especially doing so in the famous Pinstripes. Congrats! The hottest team in baseball as of now is only 4 games back of a wild card spot..... not to shabby for never ONCE having their "A" lineup all year.... this is why if the Yanks make the playoffs that Cashman and Girardi deserve extensions and honors. Two of the best at their respective positions.

 

[EagerBeaver]

not to shabby for never ONCE having their "A" lineup all year.... this is why if the Yanks make the playoffs that Cashman and Girardi deserve extensions and honors. Two of the best at their respective positions.

Shit, they were parading an almost unwatchable "D" team out there most of the years. Bad news though, a wild Dickey broke Jayson Nix's hand and Nix is done for the year. Very unfortunate as he is a strong PGD player off the bench. Nunez is banged up but fortunately Jeter may return Friday, so Nix may not be missed.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Shit, they were parading an almost unwatchable "D" team out there most of the years. Bad news though, a wild Dickey broke Jayson Nix's hand and Nix is done for the year. Very unfortunate as he is a strong PGD player off the bench. Nunez is banged up but fortunately Jeter may return Friday, so Nix may not be missed.

Yup, an unwatchable "D" team with over $130,000,000 in contracts. Whether or not Jeter returns, Jayson ".596" Nix will never be missed by any serious major league team.

not to shabby for never ONCE having their "A" lineup all year...

True enough, they never once had $230,000,000 in contracts on their active roster.

Nice to see Ichiro get his 4000th hit in the Pro's tonight, and especially doing so in the famous Pinstripes.

What a joke. 4,000 if you include Japan, a AAA league. (Oh, and you should also know that in English there's no apostrophe in the word "pros.")

The hottest team in baseball as of now is only 4 games back of a wild card spot...

The Dodgers are four games back of the wild card. Look again. They're in first place. Or do you mean the Yankees, the hottest team on Planet Iggy? Hot in what way. One month ago, they were 7 games back, today they're 6.5 games back. Oh, and by the way, on planet Earth, the Yankees are 5 back in the Wild Card.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Bernie Williams? Are you out of your mind? (we all know that answer). There is no evidence Bernie Williams used steriods, let alone had a broken down body.

No, he never used steriods, but one look at him at 20 and another at 32 and it's pretty clear that he used steroids. There is also pretty strong evidence that he got them from Paul O'Neill.

 

[Joe.t]

Is it safe to say that Soriano has been the best acquisition in all of baseball this year, again I'm asking is it safe to make this statement.:nod:

 

[Doc Holliday]

Nor do I, Doc, though there are numerous examples of fine players whose careers have ended early because their bodies have broken down from steroid use. Mark McGwire and Nomar Garciaparra are two examples. Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, and Bernie Williams are others. CC Sabathia seems to be on the same road.

Maybe, but that was the old steroids where users always bulked up due to the high amount of water within their cells. With the new steroids, users no longer have to bulk up unless by choice. Usually, bodies break down due to the bulking up. No different from very obese people whose excess weight will often come back to haunt them (bad backs, bad knees, etc).

p.s. I forgot to include Alfonso Soriano's name on my list of strongly suspected PED users over the years. He's also Dominican, so he fits the profile.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

p.s. I forgot to include Alfonso Soriano's name on my list of strongly suspected PED users over the years. He's also Dominican, so he fits the profile.

Here's hoping they test him tonight before he goes to bed.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I am watching the Blue Jays against the Yankees and it the same thing over and over with the Blue Jays when I see them. Terrible fundamentals and boneheaded plays. Davis picked off 2nd base by Mariano Rivera with 1 out in the 9th and Jays down 4-2. Where is he going? He is an asshole. And assholes do not deserve to win.

I agree. Same problems as last season with John Farrell. I heard on Baseball Central (RSN) today that the problem is likely organizational & starts in the minor leagues.

By the way, what John Farrell said earlier about the Jays organization is spot-on. The organization is very good at drafting talent, but sucks moose balls when it comes to developping those prospects.