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Doc Holliday

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A coach can make a huge difference. I will give you two examples, the Canadians and the Jets. Look at Nashville this year, same team different results. Babcock is a well respected coach.

Quite true & i must add a very good post.

Barry Trotz was no longer a fit in Nashville. But it now appears that he's a great fit with the Capitals. On the other hand, Pete Laviolette was no longer the right fit in Philly last season and got fired. But now he looks like the greatest coach alive & is a strong candidate to win the Jack Adams trophy as the league's best coach.

Chemistry is a key ingredient on a winning team. Quite often, people refer to the players when speaking about chemistry. However, chemistry between a coach & the players he is asked to coach is as, if not more, important. Many experts have stated the same thing in regards to Randy Carlyle during his stint with the Leafs: he's a very good coach, but possibly not the right fit for the players he has. And who knows, maybe one day we'll be saying the same thing about Mike Babcock when he'll be coaching the Leafs.

Mike Babcock started his NHL coaching career coaching the Anaheim Mighty Ducks. He led them to the Stanley Cup finals once. He then declined to re-sign with them and signed with the Detroit Red Wings, who had been rumoured at the time to be offering him more money than the Ducks were. Sound familiar??
 

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I like Babs. But I do think it's overblown what an incredible coach is. He's been in good situations. Relative to football (especially) and basketball, I believe, and my opinion only, that hockey coaches have much less impact on results. They're managers, more than coaches. (I actually don't know what the hell a baseball manager does, but I also have zero interest in baseball, so...)

I have to partially disagree with you. I've personally experienced coaches completely turning around franchises. And everywhere they coached, they turned bad teams into very good ones. And of course, i've seen marginal coaches sink franchises, as many had predicted they would.

Of the four major professional sports in North America, i'd say that baseball is the only one where managers have the least effect on a team's success. This is not to say that they do not have an effect at all, but compared to the NBA, NFL & NHL, they don't have as much of an impact.
 

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My point was not the guy suddenly becomes dumber if he went to the Leafs. Dude, seriously?? My point was, it would be an error in judgment if Babcock believes he is that special on his own that he alone can turn around a mess the magnitude of the Toronto Maple Leafs. He has a lot of things going for him in Detroit.

Most hockey experts say that coaching the Maple Leafs is a dream job for any coach. It's like someone being asked to coach either the Boston Red Sox or the NY Yankees. Toronto is the hockey universe of the world, and it's one of the top two historical franchises, the Montreal Canadiens being the other. I've also heard many pundits mention that should Mike Babcock (or any other coach) turn the Leafs into a contender, Babcock would be the toast of hockey-crazy Toronto and his popularity would become legendary, without even having to win the Stanley Cup. This is why Pat Burns & Pat Quinn are the two recent Leafs coaches who have nearly achieved this status. They had extremely successful years when they coached in Toronto.

Babcock may have a lot of good things happening for him in Detroit, but let's be honest: living in Toronto as compared to Detroit would be like living in the Playboy Mansion as compared to living on a houseboat.

But Mike Babcock has bolted successful franchises in the past (Anaheim) for greener pastures. By 'greener' pastures, i'm talking about money. He wants to be the league's highest-paid coach and no one can blame him for this. Consensus is that he's the best coach out there and if he believes this, why not be the highest-paid coach? He's also got nothing left to prove in Detroit and he may need a bigger challenge in order to maintain his motivation to coach. He may also be seeking a similar arrangement to Patrick Roy's, who has input in player personnnel & let's face it: Roy has such an arrangement with the Avs that he's basically un-fireable. He once told an acquaintance of mine (when he was with the Ramparts) that in a perfect world, coaches should be the ones hiring the GMs....that GMs should answer to the coaches, and not vice-versa. Many insiders believe that this is pretty much the arrangement he has with Colorado & the only reason why he chose to leave an extraordinary career (as coach, GM & owner) in Quebec for Colorado.

The main reason why Babcock hasn't re-signed in Detroit is the money issue. Ken Holland's contract will pale to Babcock's should Babcock get his wish in being the league's highest-paid coach. Holland is the GM....Babcock's boss...and there's no way his head coach will be paid twice what he's being paid.

Trust me...this is the same scenario we've seen with Babcock in Anaheim. He wasn't as known or respected back then, so that's why not as much was made out of it. But there's a reason why people keep mentionning Toronto as his future destination and no other team: people talk and rumors spread...but quite often, those rumors often happen to be true.

Toronto is one of few NHL teams that has the money (and is willing to) to make Mike Babcock the league's highest-paid coach. There will also be a coaching-vacancy in Toronto once the regular season ends. Babcock is #1 on Toronto's radar and this has been the case since the end of last season. This is why Peter Horacek was only given an 'interim' title when he replaced Carlyle. The only way Horacek remains Toronto's coach is by leading them to the Stanley Cup finals, which will definitely not happen. They will not even make the playoffs. They will soon start unloading players in order to position themselves as low as possible in the standings in order to get a top player in the upcoming entry draft. And once the draft is over, they'll let their new coach (likely Babcock) and new GM (my pick is Mark Hunter) take care of building the Maple Leafs into a winner. It won't happen in their first year, but progress will start showing in years 2 and 3. By year 5, they'll be Stanley Cup contenders.

You've heard it here, folks!
 

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And once the draft is over, they'll let their new coach (likely Babcock) and new GM (my pick is Mark Hunter) take care of building the Maple Leafs into a winner. It won't happen in their first year, but progress will start showing in years 2 and 3. By year 5, they'll be Stanley Cup contenders.

You've heard it here, folks!

I think we've also "heard it here" when Burke first came to the Leafs. I also think this prediction will end up being just as accurate as the Burke one. 48 plus 5 equals 53.
 

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Habs to face Bruins at Foxboro in 2016 Winter Classic

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The Montreal Canadiens will visit the Boston Bruins in the 2016 Winter Classic at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, Mass.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman announced that event and two other 2016 outdoor games during his state of the league address at the all-star game in Columbus.

The Chicago Blackhawks will visit the Minnesota Wild at TCF Bank Stadium on Feb. 21.

The Detroit Red Wings will visit the Colorado Avalanche at Coors Field on Feb. 27.

Winnipeg will not host an outdoor game next season after the NHL and CFL’s Blue Bombers were unable to agree on a date.

Bettman said the league hopes to have the Heritage Classic there in the 2016-’17 season.

Habs to face Bruins in 2016 Winter Classic
 

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Amazing short handed goal !

Arizona Coyotes defenseman Oliver Ekman-Larsson launches the puck from beyond center ice and somehow scores on Maple Leafs goalie Jonathan Bernier.

[video=youtube;8iB_AJgk3Ec]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iB_AJgk3Ec[/video]
 

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Joel Cairo's Favorite 10 Current NHL Players

In no particular order:

Pavel Datsyuk
Henrik Zetterberg
Tomas Tatar
Gustav Nyquist
Niklas Kronwall
Patrice Bergeron
Drew Doughty
Tomas Plekanec
Alexander Ovechkin
Steven Stamkos
 

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Joel Cairo's 10 LEAST Favorite Current NHL Players

In no particular order:

Dion Phaneuf
Phil Kessel
David Clarkson
Nazem Kadri
Jake Gardiner
Carter Ashton
Ray Emery
Brad Marchand
Chris Higgins
Patrick Kane
 

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Congrats to the Magic Man, Pavel Datsyuk, who today moved into a tie for 5th on Detroit's all-time assist list:

Steve Yzerman
Gordie Howe
Niklas Lidstrom
Alex Delvecchio
Sergei Fedorov and Pavel Datsyuk

WOW - What a list!
 

smuler

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That is quite a list

I didn't know lidstrom had so many

I bet Petr Klima was on the bottom of the list

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Detroit Red Wings are playing without Howard and Gustavsson and they continue to win with a young goalie.

Mrazek has played unbelievably well as the replacement. The Wings are 8-2 in their last 10 games and counting.

This obviously helps Howard fully recover from his injury.

It just shows the dept this organization has.

I can't imagine what would happen with the Montreal Canadiens if Price and Tokarski were injured.

Mike Babcock has to be happy about the future of this team.
 

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Great goal for Max Pacioretty. Watching him get into position in order to deflect Plekanec's wonderful pass was

a thing of beauty. Great effort by both in not giving up on the play.

Word is that Montreal is having a look see at A.Vermette today for a possible trade before the deadline. Lets make it happen.

Vermette would fit in, quite well, as the centre they need right now.
 

smuler

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Everyone's looking at him
But at what price are teams willing to pay ?

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Great moves by the Jets today...but what was Buffalo thinking? Or maybe the question should be what was Buffalo smoking?
 

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Could someone please explain the buyout rules for 2015? There has always been a limit to the number of players a team can buyout in a given season. How many players (if any) can each team buyout? Does the number bought out in previous years change the answer to the preceding question? What of the cap hit for future seasons?

Also, can't a team avoid the salary cap hit by sending a player to the minors? I know that a long time player has to clear waivers, but if the player is a bench warmer with a huge contract, who cares? (e.g. Clarkson of TO)

I wonder if TO can alleviate its long term problems by offering a team some of its future draft choices in return for accepting some of its deadwood. E.g. The other team takes over Lupul's contract and TO gives it their first round pick in the next draft.
 
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