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Every time I read the subject of this thread I think about Harper while campaigning in Quebec... "Nous allons gagner ces érections...." haha and he did! At least once ;)

It may not have been a slip of the tongue.
I am sure there have been many politicians that have “won” several erections in Quebec
 

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That first debate did not make anyone involved look good.

Until yesterday i wasn't even aware that there had been a debate. I was watching the Democratic debate (and the NFL game) and wasn't aware they Canadian channels at the Canadian debate. So my guess is that not too many people watched it.

I live in Canada and i find that the economy is going quite well. I've never had as much money as i have now and there are many good jobs often available. Things are going quite well for me so there's no reason why i'd want to change anything and vote for a different political party than the one currently in power. When it's not broken, don't fix it.

Trudeau isn't perfect and is likely learning from his mistakes. I still find that he's not as dangerous as Andrew Scheer and the Conservatives could be. I was so sick of Stephen Harper's 11-year reign prior to Trudeau and couldn't wait to get rid of him. So i'm willing to give Trudeau and the Liberals another term.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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^^^^^^ Ok, here is a simple question. What has Trudeau done to get unemployment this low?
My thought is that we are riding on the US economy and could be better of Trudeau was not in power. His carbon tax did not give us jobs, if anything it lost jobs. His tyring to shut down Alberta did not give us jobs, it probably lost 100,000 jobs.
Economists claim Trudeau gave us $1,800.00 less disposable income... What did Trudeau do for the economy?
 

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Until yesterday i wasn't even aware that there had been a debate. I was watching the Democratic debate (and the NFL game) and wasn't aware they Canadian channels at the Canadian debate. So my guess is that not too many people watched it.

I don't think it was on TV at all. I saw it online. I saw a poll that said 54% of people who saw it thought Trudeau won by not showing up, which shows you how uninspiring the other three were.

Trudeau isn't perfect and is likely learning from his mistakes. I still find that he's not as dangerous as Andrew Scheer and the Conservatives could be. I was so sick of Stephen Harper's 11-year reign prior to Trudeau and couldn't wait to get rid of him. So i'm willing to give Trudeau and the Liberals another term.

It would be a lot easier to vote Liberal if they dumped Trudeau, who I think is a hollow suit and not very ethical. Scheer just seems worse the more he talks, and the Con policies are not promising. Singh is not going to be NPD leader after this and I don't think May is going to break through.

I'm hoping for a local debate in my riding that I can go to live, because I don't think I have an obvious choice nationally so I will need to see if my local rep is inspiring at all
 

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What did Trudeau do for the economy?

Not much. But that's what Doc is saying sometime if it's not broken do not touch it! I completely agree with that.

The Canadian middle class is doing much better then in the USA. We have nothing to worry about here in Canada were doing fine.

It's what's happening down south that we should worry about. The inequalities of the USA is very worrying. It will lead to even more power to the left (I doubt) or the the right (which is very scary). Economy like it in the center. So yes if the USA fuck it up we are fucked too.

Cheers,
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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If it is not broken do not fix it? Trudeau is not broken?
It is like saying you own a screen door and a hurricane is coming but the screen door is not broken so why change it.
For jobs https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&sour...aw1PYtG93UD1kSSIsF6Iz-uK&ust=1568580204348156
Economists outlook. https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/why-the...hit-canadians-harder-than-americans-1.1270769

Trudeau, worst spending outside a world war or recession.

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&sour...aw2OXPufTL8GqCG3WJdoWpBD&ust=1568582464607006

Trudeau reckless spending.
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&sour...aw2OXPufTL8GqCG3WJdoWpBD&ust=1568582464607006

Trudeau is doing nothing for the economy, he is pandering to the money grab climate change, gay community and illegals, nothing else and gullible are eating it up.
What will your media tell you to do next?
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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STN, it's quite obvious that you're incredibly biased against Trudeau & the Liberals. But you've always been this way and you wouldn't vote for them even if your life would depend on it. But that's okay. I appreciate your political passion & observations in this thread.

But that's the thing. I always vote for the candidate or party who will represent my interests better. Over my lifetime i've voted PC, NDP and Liberal. I've often not voted when none of the three major parties represented my interests at the time and i wasn't going to vote just for the sake of voting. But i'll admit i've voted Liberal twice as much as i've voted for any other political party. And yes, it was because the leader and party at the time of an election did represent my interests more than the others.

This is why i will definitely vote Liberal again. As i mention my financial situation has never been better and in my opinion the economy is booming. Trudeau kept his promise in legalizing cannabis. That was a biggie for me. Had any other party promised to legalize cannabis and would have done so i'd vote for them again. But for once we elected a leader who kept a major promise. I still remember when his father and later Jean Chretien promised to legalize weed and once elected they all forgot about it. But Justin Trudeau kept his word and i was impressed by this.

Doug Ford's election in Ontario came with many red flags and so far people who were worried about electing a Conservative government so far appear justified in their worries. Ford has been a mess in Ontario, to say the least. But as is usually the case the majority of eligible voters didn't go to the polls and he was elected by a minority, which is common in elections in Canada and in the United States these days. That's how populists & incompetent candidates end up getting elected. But at least Canada's system isn't as flawed as the one south of the border where a candidate can get 3 million more votes than the other candidate and still end up losing an election due to a technicality......a very flawed system. But the State legislatures make up the rules (voter repression, etc) and draw up the district maps (gerrymandering) which more often than not ends up favoring their parties. When Trump said that elections are rigged it was one of the rare things he ever said that was actually true. And Trump did end up 'winning' his election due to a very rigged system.

When it ain't broken don't try to fix it. The country is going very well, the economy is booming, there is jobs galore and people are generally pretty happy. No so-called SNC Lavalin scandal with deter me from voting for Justin Trudeau again. He is like fine wine and will only get better as he gains more experience in the job. He is also incredibly respected throughout the world and i'm proud to have him as my country's PM. I'm totally not bothered with his decision in the SNC Lavalin affair. He wanted to save hundreds of thousands of jobs. Not doing so would have been devastating to the Canadian economy and many experts have pointed out that it is more likely than not that any other leader such as Scheer or Singh would have likely done the same thing Trudeau did. Whether or not this is true is none of my concern. I vote for the candidate and party who represents my interests better and there is no reason why i shouldn't vote for Trudeau again since as i mentioned several times life in Canada has been very pleasant and rewarding since he came into power.

In Justin I Trust.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Fair enough. For me I did extremely well under the Liberals when Chretien and Conservatives with Harper in power, guessing you also as you had the funds to travel and see escorts. I do not dislike the Liberals but Trudeau has zero political skills, he is a face and a name, nothing else.
I have posted many links to show his incompetence and reckless spending but this does not seem to sink in with some. I am not worried about myself in the future but for my kids and their kids, take taxes are going higher and higher, less disposable income for families, more and more homeless people no one seems to care about.
Also to note, if Trudeau does win you can expect surge on western independence as the west is fed up with Quebec getting the lions share of government spending and equalization payments.
 

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STN, i see your pov. Indeed i did well for myself back when Chretien, Martin & Harper were PM. But i was working three times more back then which allowed me to supplement my income for my many trips to Montreal, Toronto and elsewhere. These days i'm between semi-retirement & working part-time hours and doing better financially than i ever did. Our current government may or many not be responsible for this but as i previously mentioned "If it's not broken, don't try to fix it." What i meant is that i can't find the motivation to want anything to change since things are good and i absolutely don't trust Andrew Scheer and the Conservatives. I find them way too risky.

Maybe it's just me but i believe that things are pretty good around Canada overall. I can't see them getting any better under a Conservative or god-forbid an NDP government. Sure the Doug Ford disaster in Ontario may be one of the big reasons why i said that i can't trust Andrew Scheer and the Conservatives but so be it. It is what it is.

p.s. Come on.....you really do not dislike the Liberals??? Really?? ;)
 

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It's what's happening down south that we should worry about. The inequalities of the USA is very worrying. It will lead to even more power to the left (I doubt) or the the right (which is very scary). Economy like it in the center. So yes if the USA fuck it up we are fucked too.

Indeed. It's much worse south of the border and it'll need a lot of cleaning up to do by the Democrats in order to get the sanity in the American political and economic systems. Many say that America is broke. I disgress. It's a mirage since the Republicans have did this to themselves and even the richest country on the planet would face the same results if they made the same tax cuts that Trump & Paul Ryan did. The Republican tax scam wasn’t about helping middle class. This was simply a talking point to use in order to ease their tax scam hoping they wouldn't catch too much heat for it. They failed and although everyone is now quite aware that the fix is on they keep on using the same bullshit "we'll give the middle class a big tax cut" again & again thinking the majority of the American people have amnesia.

The top 1% got 34% of the total benefits. The top 20% got 70% of the benefits. Decades of trickle down economics of 1% tax cuts don’t work and NEVER HAVE. The top 10% own 73% of the American net worth. And my friends explains part of why the United States ended up over $22 trillion in the hole and counting.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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^^^^ Saving a few jobs with SNC. Go back to getting your facts from Teletoons...
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&sour...aw2Up1-BergWMK7pIqdHFHty&ust=1568647012211073

My complaint about the legalization, never said it would not happen just that it was a money grab and I was correct, the prices are high, the quality is not near top tier and it can be underweight. Not sure where you got anything else from my comments.

Your political knowledge ranks that of a child.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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By CBC and Twitter, with only 54% it was a true fail as both are pro Trudeau.
 

Doc Holliday

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The more Andrew Scheer appears in tv ads the more harm he does to his chances to be elected. He simply does not project well in person. He's got lies, lies and more lies written all over his face. Now he's promising to cut taxes for everyone. Yeah right!! We've all heard that one before!!

Personally speaking i don't mind paying more taxes. Of course i'm all for tax cuts but not if it means the filthy rich also getting a tax cut since this is when it'll hurt the national treasury the most. Look at the States and what the Trump Tax Cuts did to the deficit!! I'm all for cutting taxes but only from the middle class down.

These days i'm living as well as i ever lived, my bank account is extremely happy and my financial future looks very bright. Therefore there's no way i want Canadian voters to do something drastic which risks disrupting things too much by electing Andrew Scheer and the Conservatives. If it's not broken, don't fix it. So i'll be voting for Justin Trudeau and the Liberals to hold on to the status quo. I'll be voting for the candidate and the party who represents my interests the best and in my opinion he's done a fairly good job. Of course his enemies and the right-wing media makes it look otherwise, but i have the ability to look beyond fake propaganda.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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^^^^^^ Your last sentence is funny, youbshould do standup comedy.
With your first part about lies, lies.... Look at who you want to elect.
We do understand that you are still upset with Trump winning but look at the US economy, booming, guess they should not change either or is only when it pleases your thinking.
 

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^^^^^^ Your last sentence is funny, youbshould do standup comedy.
With your first part about lies, lies.... Look at who you want to elect.
We do understand that you are still upset with Trump winning but look at the US economy, booming, guess they should not change either or is only when it pleases your thinking.

Actually i used to do stand-up at one time in my life. I also used to sing at another time. The singing part was great for my sex life! Holy shit was it ever! :lol::lol::lol:

I'm not too upset that Trump stole the election and was elected due to a technicality. It happens. It also happened with George W. Bush in 2000 so i'm kind of getting used to it. But saying that the "US economy is booming" is a mirage. Sure the jobless rate is down and the stock market has been doing fairly well. But that's thanks to President Obama who actually created more jobs than Trump. But that's another issue altogether. But the US economy is heading down a cliff due to the astronomical deficit solely created by Trump and his crony Republicans. One of these days they'll have to start paying that huge debt. Trump stated several times he doesn't care since he'll be dead by then. At least he told something truthful for once. But once China and the Arabs come collecting it won't be funny!

But people should relax since once again a Democrat President and a Democrat Congress will once again be elected and will come to the rescue. That's always the case. Republicans are great at spending tons of money they don't have and blow up the national debt while the Democrats eventually come to the rescue, and so on.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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^^^^^^^^ As always you are bang on with your political predictions and economic sense.
https://www.bea.gov/news/glance

And when is it he was to be impeached, 2017 or something like that.
 

Doc Holliday

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Look....Trudeau could kill someone in the ByWard Market area and i'd still vote for him before voting for Andrew Scheer.

At least we know what we have with Trudeau and it ain't so bad and i'm doing fairly well since he came into power. He cares a lot about the environment and we share similar views about many issues. Sure we differ on some but I'm hoping he remains the Canadian PM for another 10 years or more.
 
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