A girl who I'm close with told me about a stripper friend of hers....

[Johnny]

Who worked at a regular non FS club downtown.

She would very often provide FS or BBJ with customers who were just there for lap dances.

This girl I'm close with told me she eventually got warts or some other shit on her mouth area that were clearly visible.

She'd continue to give BBJ to customers for cash on the premises in the bathroom or where ever.


What brings me to my next point how can a stripper never mind an SP continue to provide service knowing she has an STD or virus?

Can this be stopped?

Just like that fucker Darren James in the LA porn scene. He was on an unprotected sex set in Brazil & came back to LA with Aids & shot a bunch of other movies & put a whole bunch of other non infected/clean ppl at risk.

These ppl should be put in jail.

I hope I'm not offending anyone by saying that but that's what I feel.

Pornstar Marc Wallace is currently in jail after continuing to do movies with Aids & had someone to do his blood tests for him.

 

[Johnny]

Zaphyr

Hi Johnny,

I agree with you it shouldn`t exist. But, before to put in jail every SP or porn stars, maybe should we, as professional sex workers, all stop allowing unsafe practices. When a man sees a XXX movie and never sees any condom, it doesn`t seem to be good with. When most of SP`s in Montreal offer it must be tempting for the clients to see them instead of those with a social consciousness. But if it seemed normal, in movie or in the reality, it would become very normal for almost everybody. We need a social change here!

My too cents,

Zaphyr

I agree, many agencies do not promote or permit or bdaty.

But now in many adult films, they are using condoms, maybe not all for oral sex but certainly for intercourse & anal sex.

But yes it is tempting, I know that I would certainly be tempted to accept a especially when the woman that arrives to my door is so gorgeous, smelling good, nice skin & so on, it would be hard to refuse, but I still would be health concious & turn it down as I would turn down bare daty even though it`s something I love to do.

 

[naughtylady]

safer sex

This girl I`m close with told me she eventually got warts or some other shit on her mouth area that were clearly visible.

I look at as a calculated risk, as most of the diseases that can be transmitted by saliva are treatable. I do keep mint condoms for cbj`s. (Condom-mints!) That said, if this girl had visable mouth sores, the guy accepting a from her is just as guilty as she is.

At least in my opinion...

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[Doc Holliday]

People active in this 'hobby' have to understand that there are certain risks involved. Those not willing to face those risks should look elsewhere for their 'sex fix'. However, there are as many people outside the biz with std's as there are with people in it.

Most people that i've heard catching an std caught it from someone they met in a bar or elsewhere. This is actually more common than not. These people with promiscuous sex habits should be getting checked as often as providers and 'johns' get tested.

As for porn, many of the male performers that you see today wearing condoms wear it for two main reasons: they have a permanent std (usually genital herpes) and don't want to infect the non-std female pornstar, and the second reason is that the female pornstar has a permanent std (again, genital herpes) and the non-std male pornstar doesn't want to risk getting it.

Pornstars who insist on performing 'with protection' usually do not last long in the biz. Safe-porn doesn't sell, and there are always performers out there willing to do anything to get the work, even if their putting their lives at risk.

As for Darren James, he didn't know that he was HIV+ when he infected others (including Mtl's own Lara Roxx). Marc Wallice, however, did know....the scumbag!!! However, what do you expect from a junkie performing in the business?

 

[slickrick]

Johnny,

I think the more important thing is that you at least mention the club if not backchannel interested members with her name.

 

[miko]

What about, our own responsability as Merb members?

I just, finished rating very highly 2 girls who were safe
No , no kiss no Daty...The amount of agressivity, i encountered was incredible.

Accordinf to the GFE way of rating.. if a girl doesnt do + Daty + DFK she is not worth more than a 3.5/5.0.?.

To me, this makes no sense. On my next reviews, i will adopt the 10 points rating system, which allouds for more nuances.

The latest Asian girl, i saw.. was all safe and badly dressed...
Her performance, within the defined parameters, was at least a definite 8.5/10 despite the fact her service was all safe.

If Hobbyist, can understand that a all safe session can be enjoyable...everybody should benefit..


My 2 cts

 

[slickrick]

I agree Miko and follow the same practices as you

I had an experience about a year ago with one of the highest rated sp`s in New England. She told me that she had recently transitioned from cbj to and that I would love it. I told her that I thought it was great but I actually preferred the cbj. Still had a great time.

 

[rdsw1965]

I can`t speak for anyone else and maybe I`m niave(?? did I spell that right).........., but if an sp has some sort of disease,however minor, I would hope she would refuse a or daty, then pass it on to me.

 

[Johnny]

JustaJohn

People active in this 'hobby' have to understand that there are certain risks involved. Those not willing to face those risks should look elsewhere for their 'sex fix'. However, there are as many people outside the biz with std's as there are with people in it.

Most people that i've heard catching an std caught it from someone they met in a bar or elsewhere. This is actually more common than not. These people with promiscuous sex habits should be getting checked as often as providers and 'johns' get tested.

As for porn, many of the male performers that you see today wearing condoms wear it for two main reasons: they have a permanent std (usually genital herpes) and don't want to infect the non-std female pornstar, and the second reason is that the female pornstar has a permanent std (again, genital herpes) and the non-std male pornstar doesn't want to risk getting it.

Pornstars who insist on performing 'with protection' usually do not last long in the biz. Safe-porn doesn't sell, and there are always performers out there willing to do anything to get the work, even if their putting their lives at risk.

As for Darren James, he didn't know that he was HIV+ when he infected others (including Mtl's own Lara Roxx). Marc Wallice, however, did know....the scumbag!!! However, what do you expect from a junkie performing in the business?

I agree that there are just as many if not more ppl who aren't in the SP biz that have or have had STD's & passed them on unintentially.

But you're saying that when we see condoms in porn films that it's b/c the man has a disease or the man is trying to protect himself from the female parnt who has a diseas all the time.

You say the disease is usually herpes, so then if that's true, than how come they still perform unprotected oral sex? If an individual has herpes the recipricant of the oral sex can still give herpes to the other persons mouth or genitals.


Plus I very rarely see Rocco Siffreddi using rubbers for intercourse or anal intercourse.

So you're saying the rare times that I see him using them is b/c the female he's working with has a disease he's protecting himself from?

If you have a disease in the porn biz, from what I've been told you aren't allowed to work.

After Tony Montana contracted aids, he worked with Jill Kelly unprotected who didn't know he had it & from then on most of the time I saw her use rubbers for sex.

But if they're using condoms b/c of a disease, than how come they don't protect themselves for oral sex?

Disease's & virus's can still be transfered orally.

 

[Bruce34]

Hearsay makes a bad reputation. Yet the board is a heads up for warnings. Here's my urban legend, again without proof: "A masseuse place downtown does have one masseuse with ___fill the blanks___".
Again, only hearsay. Please don't quote me and if offered full service without protection, your paying for the "extra" you did not want...

 

[moliere]

Johnny,

Rocco Siffredi admitted several years ago that he had genital herpes and that he works only between outbreaks. His excuse is that every porn star has herpes. Well, that's a lame excuse.

Any way, since his coming out, he works almost only with eastern european girls that are starving for money and probably don't know he carries the disease.

A recent french study showed that even between outbreaks the carrier can transmit herpes.

 

[Johnny]

moliere

Johnny,

Rocco Siffredi admitted several years ago that he had genital herpes and that he works only between outbreaks. His excuse is that every porn star has herpes. Well, that's a lame excuse.

Any way, since his coming out, he works almost only with eastern european girls that are starving for money and probably don't know he carries the disease.

A recent french study showed that even between outbreaks the carrier can transmit herpes.

Damn, poor Rocco, I never heard that before. Than how come he's allowed to work still?

He should be forced into retirement for that & just shoot movies & not be in them.

When did Rocco announce that he had them? & how long do you think he was working with them before coming clean?

That's just scary.

Do you think there are SP's for agencies who do the same in this regard?

I hope not.

But that's a lame assed excuse on Rocco's part that every porn star has herpes so it doesn't matter.

Just scary the mentality of putting other ppl at health risk.

 

[moliere]

Rocco and herpes

Here is an extract of an interview of Rocco on the site lukeford.com.

The following was published in 1994 by Clifford Cremer.

Profession porn-actor.

You're never afraid of aids?

"I never think of it. My blood is being tested every three months, like everybody else in this business. In the porn-bizz everybody does it, that's why the risk is relatively small. So professional actors and actresses are not worried about it. I had my last test just a couple of weeks ago."

What would you do if you were to test hiv-positive?

"I don't know. In any case I would stop working as an actor."

Are you not afraid of other veneral diseases, like herpes?

"Let me tell you a secret: in this business everybody has herpes, myself included. Every professional in the porn-world has herpes, male or female. It's the smallest thing you can get, it's really nothing serious. Now and then it shows up on your body, then you get small blisters or ulcers on your mouth or genitals. Sometimes it returns once in two years, sometimes two times a month. It's called Herpes Simplex.

"My doctor said every fourth person on earth has some kind of herpes, a quarter of the total world-population."

But you don't have to worry no more, for you already have it. (Sighs)

"Probably I got it even before I came into this business. "

I presume you don't work when blisters and ulcers show on your lips?

"No, then I have to rest for a week and take my medicine."

 

[Johnny]

moliere


Is this for real?

Something such as those words actually came from Rocco's mouth?

I've been a big Rocco & Buttman fan for a long time now but to hear Rocco's ignorance regarding Herpes, just blows my mind.


I can't believe it?

& he says everyone in the porn biz has it? That can't be true can it?

I at one point was thinking about getting into it & one of my buddies went to try out for a Montreal film but decided no as they only wanted to give him $200 for the whole film.

Do you think many SP's have this same attitude regarding this subject?

The SP's I've been with where actually very health conscious.

 

[naughtylady]

I can`t speak for anyone else and maybe I`m niave(?? did I spell that right).........., but if an sp has some sort of disease,however minor, I would hope she would refuse a or daty, then pass it on to me.

Sad to say many people. especially women can have a STD and not even know it. Also even sadder, some know it and don`t care...

Ronnie, so far all my test results have come back negative, Lady

 

[Johnny]

naughtylady

Sad to say many people. especially women can have a STD and not even know it. Also even sadder, some know it and don't care...

Ronnie, so far all my test results have come back negative, Lady

That's good to know.

Could it be that SP's are much more health concious than adult film stars women or men?

I know I've been tested & with the several SP's I've been with & the several relationships I've been in & including the one that I'm in now that's gone bad, I'm still in the single digits.

 

[naughtylady]

Johnny>> I doubt that on the whole we are MORE health concious...supposedly the norm in the film industry is once a month...

I am not certain I understand what you mean in your next paragraph...

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[Bruce34]

Re: Johnny

See also

 

[Johnny]

naughty lady

Johnny>> I doubt that on the whole we are MORE health concious...supposedly the norm in the film industry is once a month...

Well that's good to know, but I have heard that about adult film stars only once a month which in my opinion isn't enough as you could be shooting films every day or every few days sleeping with different ppl & doing pretty dirty but entertaining to watch things.

I am not certain I understand what you mean in your next paragraph...

What part?

I know I've been tested & with the several SP's I've been with & the several relationships I've been in & including the one that I'm in now that's gone bad, I'm still in the single digits.

 

[naughtylady]

What is in the single digits? The number of people you have slept with?

Ronnie