A Tale of Two SPs

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The following has not much to do with Dickens’ famous novel…in fact, absolutely nothing…but the title had a nice ring to it and my little story does start with two SPs I’ve met a week apart. Their identities will be withheld as this is only meant as food to discussion.

The Story

Once upon a time (well actually, less than 2 weeks ago), I had my first encounter with “SP-ONE”…and most certainly my last. This attractive newcomer in the SP agency arena was easy to relate with and very talkative, too much to my taste as the conversation, as captivating as it was, just dragged over half of our allocated time despites my best “diplomatic” attempts to press the start button. When the message that it was time to roll down the bed sheets finally got through, the passion quickly deflated over a series of service restrictions (no kissing and CBJ). Somehow, I managed to conclude with a release following an uninspired FS segment.

Overall, not an encounter where many of my basic expectations were met. I think I did my best, as usual, to create an unrushed and pleasant atmosphere (even got some compliments for that) but, in all evidence, the young lady was not comfortable with me, which in turn left me cold. Following the meeting, more or less credible explanations were brought forward during my feedback exchanges with the agency manager. From my perspective, this was simply a case of YMMV…nothing much to moan over and even worth posting about.

That is until I met “SP-TWO” last week. This was not our first get together…and I certainly hope it won’t be the last. I had great encounters over the years, but this one simply blew the lid at the top of my satisfaction benchmark scale. SP-TWO is an attractive indy who’s also very easy to relate with. But unlike SP-ONE, finding the start button has never been a issue. The heat quickly turned up through passionate kissing and caresses, every GFE menu items - and more - being explored with an uncommon pleasure, inspiration, sensuality and intensity. Just an incredibly hot encounter bearing no possible comparison at the attitude/service level with what I’ve experienced with SP-ONE.

After this amazing meeting, I felt particularly high and good about myself. I sent SP-TWO an email, telling her how outstanding she was and how much I was looking forward to our next meeting. By curiosity, I candidly asked if her encounters with other clients were as hot and wild. She responded that she appreciates very much my company, because I’m as comfortable in my skin as she’s herself when we meet, and added that it never went to the same extent with other clients. Many will probably think that I’m a delusional old fool to believe something like this, but I wasn’t surprised as I had sensed a really strong bond developing between us through repeated encounters. As another hot babe already said…hips don’t lie!

It’s amazing to realize how different human chemistry sets put together can yield so much different outcomes. With SP-ONE, I felt like a dirty old fag with a young lady. With SP-TWO, like we were the two greatest lovers in the world. Some ladies are more compatible or adaptable than others, as testified by their consistently rave reviews. Clients also, but they rarely get reviewed (hopefully for us…). I’ve always felt that the “connectivity” factor can make all the difference between a good and a great encounter, I’m now convinced more than ever.

SP-ONE had a few positive reviews going for her, outlining a good attitude and GFE services when I decided to meet her. I’ve been lured, like in most cases, by some enticing pics and a review from a trusted poster with whom I had been eye-to-eye through several common enjoyable experiences. I’ve been rather successful using this approach to guide my choices but it didn’t worked this time around…I’ve no intention to post a review about SP-ONE, just to bash her for her service restrictions and unenthusiastic attitude. With the feedback I’ve provided to the agency manager and more experience, who knows…she could proved to be an outstanding GFE provider with most clients. I don’t feel it’s fair at this stage to post a negative review simply because there was poor chemistry between us...

SP-TWO was also a newcomer but had no review when I decided to meet her for the first time. It’s through email exchanges with her, from the answers she gave to my questions, and also from what I’ve read between the lines, that I felt we could be a good match. But unless you have special mind reading capabilities, this approach will probably fail you as often as the review one. SP-TWO now have many positive reviews to her credit and I don’t feel that adding more would serve much purpose other than to rave about her outstanding services and our great chemistry…

Epilogue

SP reviews cover physical attributes, personality, attitude and services as if these elements could be objectively assessed regardless of our individual preference and meeting experience biases. Needless to say that I no longer believe in scoring. The only way I could personally encompass my overall satisfaction would be to classify SPs within the following groups:

A - Great...can’t wait to repeat…
B - Good…I’d repeat but there’s so many others on my list…
C - Fair…just not good enough to repeat…
D - Poor…no intention to repeat…
F - Failed…I wish we had never met…

In my book, SP-ONE would get a “D” and SP-TWO an “A+”.

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Chemistry

LH

I could not agree more. I have had similar experiences. The "chimique" factor
is the most variable of all factors influencing the SP experience. Looks, body,
sensuality, attitude, intelligence all count
(some merbites might dispute "intelligence" as a factor!),
but lest we hobbyists forget:

"It takes two to tango" :D
There is the SP, and then there is YOU. If you add water to bicarbonate, you get smoke and fizzing (your SP 2 experience). If you add water and gasoline, you get nowhere! (SP 1).

The fun part is when the chemistry is right on >> Close Encounters of the First Kind !! :p

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Just a quick observation here. Yes, there's a chance it was YMMV. I've known you pretty well over the years on Merb to know the type of client you are through mutual ladies we've seen.

I don't think in this particular instance that it was a case of YMMV. You mention the other reviewer who you usually see eye to eye with regarding sp's, is this a personal backchannel friend you have come to trust, or possibly someone that may be on the receiving end of favors from an agency?

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Special K said:
You mention the other reviewer who you usually see eye to eye with regarding sp's, is this a personal backchannel friend you have come to trust, or possibly someone that may be on the receiving end of favors from an agency?
SK: I do trust that particular poster through our common acquaintances, just as I think we have come to trust each other. There were also another credible public review as well as a backchannel recommendation from a good friend who don't post. Add what I've sensed throughout the encounter and the feedback I got from the agency manager, I do believe it's YMMV.

As BK would probably have said, I also guess the engine didn't start because the water froze in my gas line... :eek: :D :rolleyes:

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Thanks for sharing. I can relate to some degree about what you are talking about. My first SP in Montreal (2nd SP I had seen overall) was a well reviewed woman with a reliable agency. I had booked a 3 hour appointment (the norm for me). I really enjoyed talking to her, but she kept rebuffing my subtle moves to get the action started. When it eventually did I got lackluster service, didn't get anything I wanted and let her know she could leave early. I definitely felt like a fat bastard then.
 
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Lion Heart said:
Epilogue

SP reviews cover physical attributes, personality, attitude and services as if these elements could be objectively assessed regardless of our individual preference and meeting experience biases. Needless to say that I no longer believe in scoring. The only way I could personally encompass my overall satisfaction would be to classify SPs within the following groups:

A - Great...can’t wait to repeat…
B - Good…I’d repeat but there’s so many others on my list…
C - Fair…just not good enough to repeat…
D - Poor…no intention to repeat…
F - Failed…I wish we had never met…

In my book, SP-ONE would get a “D” and SP-TWO an “A+”.

Lion Heart
I would agree with that rating system as well. I find a wide range of women attractive, and to be honest judging by looks or acronyms provided doesn't really convey how the experience was. I have had duos with women that satisfied most of my needs and not even come close to a session with some of the SPs I have met.
 

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rollingstone said:
I find a wide range of women attractive, and to be honest judging by looks or acronyms provided doesn't really convey how the experience was.
So true...

Pics and physical stats may help you determine if a particular lady is within your preference range. Mine is also large, yet I'm sure many are surprised when they get to see the lady they figured in their mind. Sometimes, it's for the best, but at other times, it can be deceptive.

Public reviews or "backchannel intelligence", as some say, remain personal appreciations always baised to a certain point. I remember instances when I didn't "clicked" that well with some ladies who had numerous stellar reviews...I could see why they were appreciated so much by others (attractiveness, GFE services, etc.), yet I didn't find them outstanding enough to give them an "A". I've probably met as many marvelous ladies coming in with mixed reviews. Some ladies are natural sweethearts who could charm almost anyone, but in most cases, it's very difficult to get a clear idea of someone's personality and attitude until you experienced it yourself...you may then like or dislike.

I've frequently sensed, through writings (website's statements, emails) that we shared the same values and may have a good connection with someone. Provided the one I get to see is really the one who wrote all this of course. Phone conversation may also help. Dealing with indies is great because direct communication channels are open. With agencies, you deal through an intermediary. Managers or bookers may help you finding who you're looking for. They gather the views of clients and SPs at the same time, getting to know you along the way, but these views may also be biased. They generally have limited direct knowledge of what's really going on behind close doors (though there are notable "sleeping with the payroll" exceptions :eek: :rolleyes: ). Still, whether you're dealing with an indy or an agency, you may find sweet writers and/or talkers who can mislead you.

You can narrow your choices and increase the possibilities of a great match, but in the end, it's always a gamble.

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Lion Heart said:
... I’ve been lured, like in most cases, by some enticing pics...
I had a few private comments about this particular statement in my initial post with respect to my decision to see "SP-ONE"... The Frenchman that I am might need a little English language lesson here: I thought being "lured" basically meant being "attracted"...does it have a negative connotation, more like being "fooled" or "tricked"? If it's the case, this is not at all what I've meant.

A professional photograph with the proper use of lenses, some good lighting, the right profile and a proper background, not to mention a little Photoshop workout, can make a girl-next-door look like a Playboy centrefold, and even though the pics may be real, you could end up quite disapointed when you do get to see the lady in the flesh. But no, this was not the case: the pics of SP-ONE were even temporary amateur pics, still sufficient for me to make a judgment about her look. At this level, she met all attractiveness expectations I had from her pics.

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Lion Heart said:
I had a few private comments about this particular statement in my initial post with respect to my decision to see "SP-ONE"... The Frenchman that I am might need a little English language lesson here: I thought being "lured" basically meant being "attracted"...does it have a negative connotation, more like being "fooled" or "tricked"? If it's the case, this is not at all what I've meant.

A professional photograph with the proper use of lenses, some good lighting, the right profile and a proper background, not to mention a little Photoshop workout, can make a girl-next-door look like a Playboy centrefold, and even though the pics may be real, you could end up quite disapointed when you do get to see the lady in the flesh. But no, this was not the case: the pics of SP-ONE were even temporary amateur pics, still sufficient for me to make a judgment about her look. At this level, she met all attractiveness expectations I had from her pics.

Lion Heart
Hello Lion Heart,

Just like during sex, it all depends how you use it...lol. "Lured" can mean tricked, but there is no definite implication of itself.

Cheers,

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Hello Lion Heart,

Just like during sex, it all depends how you use it...lol. "Lured" can mean tricked, but there is no definite implication of itself.

Cheers,

Korbel

The context in which LH used it does imply trickery. By the way, the little shiny pieces hanging at the end of a fishing pole are called "Lures" :)
 

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To lure or not to lure...

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The context in which LH used it does imply trickery. By the way, the little shiny pieces hanging at the end of a fishing pole are called "Lures" :)
As I said, it was certainly not my intention...Then, could I have said that "my fishing pole certainly didn't lured SP-ONE" ? :rolleyes: :D

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Lion Heart

Could it be that this SP had a bad day. I believe it is true that woman have greater mood swings then men in general. If this is true the SP that you met may have decided "I am not into this" on that particular day and "I dont even want to kiss this guy or suck his uncovered penis"...."I'll still take his money." I am just wondering how a few of the SPs that I have been with that performed so well can get such mediocre reviews from another. That is why I look for consistency (like I am sure the rest of you do as well).

I agree with your grading system. I propose another even simpler system in addition or in place of your proposed system. How about a simple Pass Fail system. The money was well spent = P for Pass and I wish I still had my $160 to $300 in my pocket = F for Fail. For me, the key is when the SP leaves or I drive off from the incall location, I am smiling and thinking "that was money well spent." This says it all. If I wish I still had the money for another SP or something else (Golf/electronics/etc) this is a fail.

For example
Gianna of eleganza $180 P
Christy Brooks Atlanta GA $200 F

I think you need to include the $ spent because some expereinces at $150 that are a "Pass" could be a "fail" at $300. I know this would vary from hobbyist to hobbyist depending on income and spending habits. No system is perfect. If I see 10 reviews and all are "P" I know she is a sure thing. If 7 are "P" then she is probably OK. If 5 or more are "P" then avoid.


I hobby all over NA and I have to say I only regret one encounter in Quebec. I wish I could say this for all the hobbying I have done in the USA.
 
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Could it be that this SP had a bad day. ... I am just wondering how a few of the SPs that I have been with that performed so well can get such mediocre reviews from another. That is why I look for consistency (like I am sure the rest of you do as well).
Having a bad day is a definite possibility, specially considering her limited experience. It must not be easy to see so many different faces (and other body parts...:eek: ), one could get dizzy after a while. Some ladies are indeed handling this better than others, managing to keep a good service level in most cases, but some will choke more or less frequently. These are understandable normal human factors but escorting remains a business…it’s good to attract consumers to your store but if your clients don’t like your products for whatever reasons or feel they're overpriced, they’ll shop elsewhere the next time. The most consistent providers will end up winning, others will eventually close the shop.

As for your passing/failing system, it's simple but don't provide any perspective of the overall quality of the experience. Trying to factor in value make senses, but everyone has not the same sensitivity over the dollar issue. Many still believe in scoring look/attitude/services, some others like me don’t. However, I doubt a consensus could ever be reached over any assessment/ranking approach.

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LH: That's why one should always rub his fishing pole before the SP arrives,
to "warm up" the engine! :p :rolleyes:

BobKnob
Well...if Miss "Fishy" is not willing to take the bait in the first place, because she has already gobbled to many worms from other fishermen or has a fish hook stuck in her mouth, the warmest fishing rod won't help you much to take her into your boat. ;)

Anyway, as we say in French, "Il y a toujours un poisson à un des bouts de la ligne..." :rolleyes: :D
(not sure if this can be translated in English...)

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Well...if Miss "Fishy" is not willing to take the bait in the first place, because she has already gobbled to many worms from other fishermen or has a fish hook stuck in her mouth, the warmest fishing rod won't help you much to take her into your boat. ;)

Anyway, as we say in French, "Il y a toujours un poisson à un des bouts de la ligne..." :rolleyes: :D
(not sure if this can be translated in English...)

Lion Heart
Hello Lion Heart,

Loved it. Yeah, nothing worst than a fish already stuffed with too much bait.

"There's always another fish in the sea."

Cheers,

Korbel
 

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Lion Heart said:
Having a bad day is a definite possibility, specially considering her limited experience. It must not be easy to see so many different faces (and other body parts...:eek: ), one could get dizzy after a while. Some ladies are indeed handling this better than others, managing to keep a good service level in most cases, but some will choke more or less frequently. These are understandable normal human factors but escorting remains a business…it’s good to attract consumers to your store but if your clients don’t like your products for whatever reasons or feel they're overpriced, they’ll shop elsewhere the next time. The most consistent providers will end up winning, others will eventually close the shop.

As for your passing/failing system, it's simple but don't provide any perspective of the overall quality of the experience. Trying to factor in value make senses, but everyone has not the same sensitivity over the dollar issue. Many still believe in scoring look/attitude/services, some others like me don’t. However, I doubt a consensus could ever be reached over any assessment/ranking approach.

Lion Heart
I sometimes ask other hobbyists to use a hierarchial, forced ranking system (Best to Worst) to rate the overall experience girls from an agency or to rate all the girls they have seen in Montreal etc. This is tough to do. It is easier to use a forced ranking system to rate a specific body part or type of service (Best BJ or Best Legs etc.) but try this to rate 5 or 6 girls that you have seen at an agency for overall experience. It may be easy to pick the worst and a little harder but still possible to pick the best. Now try to rank the girls in between. I hem and haw and I am forever changing their order.

The one thing that is certain is the feeling I get when the date is over. I ask myself "Was it worth it (worth the money)?" Yes = Pass and No = Fail. My body tells me this within 5 minutes of the end of the date. This is the most accurate assessment that I can give another hobbyist that does not want to read all the verbage contained in one of my reviews. I may make this the first line of my reviews on MERB or TER from now on.
 

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I sometimes ask other hobbyists to use a hierarchial, forced ranking system (Best to Worst) to rate the overall experience girls from an agency or to rate all the girls they have seen in Montreal etc. This is tough to do. ...

The one thing that is certain is the feeling I get when the date is over.
I agree...I've kept some tab of all the SPs I've seen over recent years but I would have a hard time trying to rank them in straight order of preference. I only have a small group of favourites I can't resist seeing over and over again, and even there I couldn't really place one in front of another. They are different and I like them for different reasons also.

However, I still think there's more than just a "go/no go" assessment one can make, something between "best" and "worse". I've been challenged, some would probably say "lured" :rolleyes:, into formally using my own "A-B-C-D-F" classfication system. Some think this would add value since I don't use scores. I'll think about it for future reviews...I may even put up a list of my various encounters within these basic categories. We'll see...

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They are different and I like them for different reasons also.
So you are promiscuous, just like me? :D I think of myself of having too many buttons that no SP is able to push all at once, and the ones I enjoy seeing push different combinations of these buttons, if that makes any sense. I have not seen that many SPs compared to some of the more active hobbyists here like youself, but I would still have a hard time ranking the ones I have seen in order.

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A - Great...can’t wait to repeat…
B - Good…I’d repeat but there’s so many others on my list…
C - Fair…just not good enough to repeat…
D - Poor…no intention to repeat…
F - Failed…I wish we had never met…

In my book, SP-ONE would get a “D” and SP-TWO an “A+”.
I like this scale, and would suggest a top category "A+" which you gave SP-TWO without defining it explicitly. My definition for "A+" would be the same as "A", and also I have one of the (very few in number) most memorable encounters with this SP which I don't expect to be able to repeat every time. Using just a Pass/Fail scale would definitely keep things simple, but that is inadequate for me.

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I'll think about it for future reviews...I may even put up a list of my various encounters within these basic categories. We'll see...
I would love to see this list. Can I send you my email address if you prefer not to show that in public? ;)
 

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So you are promiscuous, just like me? :D


I like this scale, and would suggest a top category "A+" which you gave SP-TWO without defining it explicitly. My definition for "A+" would be the same as "A", and also I have one of the (very few in number) most memorable encounters with this SP which I don't expect to be able to repeat every time. Using just a Pass/Fail scale would definitely keep things simple, but that is inadequate for me.
;)

I agree. A pass/fail system by itself would be inadequate. All I can say is almost instantly, I can tell you if she was worth the money (pass). As for a Forced ranking system or giving numbers 1-10? If I could, I would go back and modify many if not all of my 1-10 rankings. I would move them up or down. I can tell you though which SPs were worth whatever I paid and who was not. This never changes.