Ad-lib exchanges - July 2007
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bans are still not distributed!!!!
I guess there is a double standard on these boards.
GG
beautydigger said:I really resent what some members can get away with and others can't
I guess there is a double standard on these boards.
GG
General Gonad said:I guess there is a double standard on these boards.
GG
There is no double standard here. We have been trying to give posters a bit of leeway lately but if people continue to go overboard there will be some serious suspensions handed out. We do have our limits. Don't push too hard.
This is not directed only to GG, it applies to everyone. Anyone who pushes someone else over the line into a suspension will receive the same suspension in return.
Mod 8
Members,
Occasionally, this moderator does other things than the moderation of the board. I think it is unreasonable to expect an immediate reaction to a post.
Certain participants of this thread are also well-aware that we occasionally issue warnings by PM.
Thank you for your feedback.
M4
Occasionally, this moderator does other things than the moderation of the board. I think it is unreasonable to expect an immediate reaction to a post.
Certain participants of this thread are also well-aware that we occasionally issue warnings by PM.
Thank you for your feedback.
M4
traveller_76 said:I can attest to that
t_76,
If you can attest to my warnings, how do you know that it hasn't occurred in this case?
Clearly, there are tensions between certain members of the board. In any community, it is unreasonable to assume that everyone will get along with each other. It's sadly ironic that "Make love, not war" doesn't apply here more often.
I have issued several warnings to people to attack the issues, not the person. Your posts are interesting, and generally, you do make MERB a better place.
It's now time for people to move on. I really don't care where it started. I don't care who has been banned in the past. It's now time for our members to be civil with each other, or, if that is too much to ask, to ignore each other. If that's even too much to ask, it's within my power to give people time to think about it.
MERB is in invaluable resource for the exchange ideas and information about the sex trade in Montreal. It is intended to be quite open with little censorship and free-flowing communications. Of course, there are limits to what can and cannot be said, and we ask that everyone conducts themselves appropriately, utmost respect and courtesy for others.
MERB had been a generally self-regulating board, something we see as one of its attractions. We intend to keep it that way. We will try and keep the moderation in the background, intervening only where necessary. We encourage everyone to speak their minds and contribute where they can.
MERB had been a generally self-regulating board, something we see as one of its attractions. We intend to keep it that way. We will try and keep the moderation in the background, intervening only where necessary. We encourage everyone to speak their minds and contribute where they can.
Perhaps that's an unreachable ideal, but that's what our posting guidelines say, and that's what I keep in mind when I decide if I'm editing or deleting a post, or issuing a suspension.
Speaking of moving on, we're posting in the "Ad-lib exchanges - July 2007" thread. Welcome to October.
I hope you, and others, continue to share your views and make MERB an interesting place to be.
M4
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I beg to differ, but only slightly, M4. Had you said that there are certain tensions between one member of the board and everyone else, you'd have been more accurate. And, as for the "Make Love, Not War" not applying here, I'd argue that it does during the frequent bans earned by a certain member suffering from what mod7 has referred to more than once as "I'm God" syndrome. I submit that your jobs would all be a lot easier and this board would be a much more peaceful place if this cancer was cut out once and for all.Mod 4 said:
I don't often agree with GG, but he might be right about the double standard. I wonder how many other members of this board could be banned permanently, be reinstated, be banned four more times in a six month period, totally nearly six months, and yet still be allowed to return.
For the record, here's his banning history for the last year. (I might add that his history of bellicose, anti-social behavior goes back much farther:
Sept. 10, 2006 - Two weeks: Flaming, name calling, insults towards other members despite several previous warnings.
@Oct. 15, 2006 - Permanent:
Nov. 14, 2006 - Second Handle - Permanent
Mar. 10, 2007 - One week: Total disrespect to board members.
Mar. 27, 2007 - Three months: Constantly causing flame wars. Afflicted by the "I'm God" syndrome.
Jul. 10, 2007 - Two months: He was recently banned three months, and as soon as he came back got in a fight with other members, made judgmental comments toward the community at large (those paying for sex), unusual activities, people with different taste for women and what not. The first 3 months were for him to learn and hopefully accept that other people may have a different opinion than his. The 'God' syndrome. It's obvious he needs more time.
Oct. 1, 2007 - Two days: Personal attacks on others, flames, fights, name-calling, etc..., Lack of respect to either client, escort or other board members.
Was GG's reinstatement from his permanent ban not on a trial basis? And, if so, has he not failed this trial numerous times?
Let me join Maria Divina, Le Guy, and Dee in agreeing with this statement. I couldn't have said it better myself.Ziggy Montana said:Maria,
Let's just say that GG has this unique talent to bring the worst out of everyone. 'nuff said...
M4,Mod 4 said:
I don't see where T76 was asking for his elimination. My reading is that she was asking for him to be given a warning to cease his harrassment.
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Double Standard
Rumples,
You certainly do not have a mandate to speak for everyone else, so don't. I for one do not have "tensions" with GG. When I do not agree with him and it merits a response I post like I would with any other member.
As for insulting, name calling, vulgarity and the like you certainly are a fine example in the baseball thread which you started by inserting a vulgarity in the title. The NFL thread manages to move along without vulgarities and obsceneties.Yet for curious reasons the mods tolerate this in the baseball thread thereby discouraging participation.
As for the "God Syndrome". Pot calling the Kettle black. When challenged to support your positions in the aforementionned baseball thread and other baseball related threads you either waffle,turtle or resort to your strong point name-calling,obsceneties and vulgarities.
rumpleforeskiin said:
Rumples,
You certainly do not have a mandate to speak for everyone else, so don't. I for one do not have "tensions" with GG. When I do not agree with him and it merits a response I post like I would with any other member.
As for insulting, name calling, vulgarity and the like you certainly are a fine example in the baseball thread which you started by inserting a vulgarity in the title. The NFL thread manages to move along without vulgarities and obsceneties.Yet for curious reasons the mods tolerate this in the baseball thread thereby discouraging participation.
As for the "God Syndrome". Pot calling the Kettle black. When challenged to support your positions in the aforementionned baseball thread and other baseball related threads you either waffle,turtle or resort to your strong point name-calling,obsceneties and vulgarities.
"everyone" was certainly hyperbole. Given the posts of the last day or so by such respected posters as Dee, Maria, Maria, Athana, LeGuy, Ziggy, and T76, I think that I am not alone in the desire to see peace restored to this board.eastender said:
Joe, who has a sense of humour, is certainly aware that it is a term of endearment. And I'd hardly call an 88 page thread one where participation is discouraged.eastender said:
I also respond articulately to challenges that are intelligible.eastender said:
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Mod 4 said:
rumpleforeskiin said:
rumpleforeskiin,
There are various "circles" of tension on the board that come and go. During those "frequent bans", others occasionally showed cause to be suspended as well.
rumpleforeskiin said:
After reviewing T76's post again, I agree with your reading. I will amend my original post.
rumpleforeskiin said:
rumpleforeskiin said:
Ziggy has it right, at least in this case. I'll remind you once again to show courtesy to other members of the board.
M4
But tell me, oh Saint of Strip Club Patrons, why is it that some are capable of having heated debates without turning belligerent and some are not?Roland said:
Let's see....................
So a board membership that is significantly over 10,000 is reduced to under 10 members that you are able to list - you would need at least another 5,000 to approach even half. Rather a wide margin of error or extreme hyperbole. Certainly a very minute minority of all members.
Given the subject matter,the small variety of posters, the limited number of teams discussed the baseball thread could be viewed as underachieving. Comparisons with previous years are tainted because of deletions and instability.
In the alternative, your point seems to be that if vulgarities, obsceneties, name calling was encouraged in every thread then every thread would run 88+ pages. This seems to be the position attributed to GG that controversy generates views, participation, membership,and other desired qualities for the board. Seriously doubt that this is the best route.
rumpleforeskiin said:
So a board membership that is significantly over 10,000 is reduced to under 10 members that you are able to list - you would need at least another 5,000 to approach even half. Rather a wide margin of error or extreme hyperbole. Certainly a very minute minority of all members.
Given the subject matter,the small variety of posters, the limited number of teams discussed the baseball thread could be viewed as underachieving. Comparisons with previous years are tainted because of deletions and instability.
In the alternative, your point seems to be that if vulgarities, obsceneties, name calling was encouraged in every thread then every thread would run 88+ pages. This seems to be the position attributed to GG that controversy generates views, participation, membership,and other desired qualities for the board. Seriously doubt that this is the best route.
Given that this is Canada and last season's Hockey thread ran 15 pages, I'd say the baseball thread is doing just fine thank you.eastender said:
You didn't study logic in college, did you?eastender said:
Many Reasons....................
Many positive reasons come to mind from respect for others, self-confidence, integrity, history of success, an ability to step back and review a situation ......... .
Negative reasons come to mind as well.The opposites of the aforementionned, plus clinically recognized factors such as 'roid rage, alcohol abuse, admitted or proven illegal substance abuse, unfortunate experiences as a child, existing medical conditions,..............................
rumpleforeskiin said:
Many positive reasons come to mind from respect for others, self-confidence, integrity, history of success, an ability to step back and review a situation ......... .
Negative reasons come to mind as well.The opposites of the aforementionned, plus clinically recognized factors such as 'roid rage, alcohol abuse, admitted or proven illegal substance abuse, unfortunate experiences as a child, existing medical conditions,..............................
Canada.....................
Given this is Canada most interested hockey posters will go where they can discuss and banter with other experts on boards such as:
www.forumice.com
The true test would be taking your baseball thread approach to an equivalent baseball forum and seeing how long it runs there before getting booted or laughed at.
Wouldn't this be a logical test?
rumpleforeskiin said:
Given this is Canada most interested hockey posters will go where they can discuss and banter with other experts on boards such as:
www.forumice.com
The true test would be taking your baseball thread approach to an equivalent baseball forum and seeing how long it runs there before getting booted or laughed at.
Wouldn't this be a logical test?
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Mod 4 said:
Well said M4. As for other members who chimed in here denouncing me, where were you when I was banned here and people were calling me 'fuck brains' on this thread (read post#109 and the follow-up) or sarcastically alluding to me as one retired SP has done many times?
Reading some of the posts, I can't help but think of how much effort people have put to distort my thinking and to discredit me. It's always the same group of people - let's call them the usual suspects. These people have vowed to ignore me on numerous occasions and yet they feel compelled to chime in my threads to denounce all my writings. Obviously they're incapable of ignoring me, each and every one of them.
I think it's important that members be reminded the primary purpose of escort review boards. It is to review escorts and to discuss topics that pertain to this biz.It is irrelevant whether you love or hate me. I do not search for my self-esteem on escort review boards.
My intent is to bring forth thought provoking topics and I try to balance out the views here, reminding members that first and foremost, this is a business and there are implications that follow suit. Unlike others, I review SPs and MPs and I am in touch with what is currently going on in the biz.You can condemn me for generalizing but you should also understand that I once was very naive about the inner workings of this biz until I met a man who opened my eyes to some uncomfortable truths. I do not subscribe to all his views but he was bang on in regards to the business side of this biz and what that entails. You should also differentiate between the law of averages and the law of large numbers.
I will ask the usual suspects to ignore me. I am glad Mod 4 handed out some bans (there were more needed) and I will heed his warnings. As for the retired SP who likes to play the victim here, you should ignore me as well. Stop taking petty and sarcastic shots on me. You will never achieve your ultimate goal of permanently banning me. Besides, if this is what you really want - a "Gonad free board" - then go on the other board. A Mod there decided to permanently ban me.
Why not permanently ban me here and watch the boards wither away?
GG
P.S. I am willing to bet anyone that non of the usual suspects will not ignore me. But I will ignore them from now on. BTW, my unique talent is to bring forth thought provoking threads.
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traveller_76 said:
Boy, it didn't take long for you to move on and ignore me.
I think Mod 4 explained exactly why certain members you alluded to were banned. He doesn't need to further justify it to you. And please stop distorting my thoughts. If you're so pissed off at me, why don't you, Anik, Maria Divina, and whichever else SP wants to join you come meet me for dinner? On second thought, my money is better spent elsewhere. GG
P.S. I do not judge SPs or clients but I am not about to proclaim that this is a benign activity with no insidious effects on its participants. I certainly do not believe any SP who comes out on public escort review boards stating how much they love their job.
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Mod 5 said:
Just cause they exist, it does not mean they're better boards. Like any board, the quality is directly related to the quality of the posters. This is an escort review board and the last time I looked, a handful of members account for over 90% of all reviews here!!!!!
M5, you have banned me in the past on a whim because you did not like the content of my threads. Why not give me some leeway to explore some topics? I already stated that I will respect the other participants and I prefer it if they ignore me. Why do you need to always come out and threaten me that you will permanently ban me?
GG
If I'm reading this correctly, you'd like to explore some controversial issues and only those that agree with you are welcome to reply in your threads?General Gonad said:
Among the reasons that this is unworkable is the fact that you also pick fights in threads that you don't start.
This reminds me of one of my favorite jokes, by Montreal native Mort Sahl, "Nixon's the kind of guy who, if you were drowning 20 feet from shore, would throw you an 11 foot rope. Kissinger would then go on TV and say that the president was willing to meet you more than half way."
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