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Or armed revolution.
That's exactly what happened when South Carolina seceded from the USA, although the articles of secession preceded the armed conflict. I know there are not a whole lot of American history scholars in this thread, but the Battle of Fort Sumter should ring a bell:
 
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Or armed revolution.

Back then, it took 1 minute to recharge your pistol... I do not believe in a population-armed revolution in the current era.

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Eh bien il semble que le projet Albertain prend de l'ampleur et semble se structurer intelligemment...

Difficile à juger au niveau de la popularité cependant certains sondages ont parlé de 65% de support. Évidemment nous entendrons tout et son contraire. Par contre les pétitions contre madame Smith et quelques autres politiciens nous indiquent qu'ils commencent à être pris au sérieux par les fédéraux.

Personnellement je suis curieux de voir les arguments qui seront brandit par les fédéralistes Albertain et autres...je suis cependant pas mal convaincu qu'ils ne seront pas les mêmes que pour le Québec...

À suivre !
 

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It was always well known in political circles that Alberta would be the first province to secede from Confederation.

Why?

Because they have been footing the bills for the east, namely, Ontario and especially Quebec, for decades through transfer payments to the provinces.

The wealth generated by Alberta is substantial from oil and energy. Yet, the same elites in the East continued to piss all over Alberta and their aspirations, referring to them as racists and backward asshats with no environmental conscience.

The Laurentian Elites, who govern Canada, that is, the wealthy families of Quebec and Ontario who control Canada, are about to be bitch slapped in the face by Alberta, a rude awakening if you like. Hw ironic that the man at the helm in Ottawa, Mark Carney, is an Albertan.

If Alberta secedes, it looks like the Separatists in Quebec will have no one to pay their bills. Do people understand now that the Separatist movement in Quebec was about the extraction of wealth from the West, specifically Alberta? It was a farce, blackmail. The game is coming to an end if Alberta secedes.
 

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It was always well known in political circles that Alberta would be the first province to secede from Confederation.

Why?

Because they have been footing the bills for the east, namely, Ontario and especially Quebec, for decades through transfer payments to the provinces.

The wealth generated by Alberta is substantial from oil and energy. Yet, the same elites in the East continued to piss all over Alberta and their aspirations, referring to them as racists and backward asshats with no environmental conscience.

The Laurentian Elites, who govern Canada, that is, the wealthy families of Quebec and Ontario who control Canada, are about to be bitch slapped in the face by Alberta, a rude awakening if you like. Hw ironic that the man at the helm in Ottawa, Mark Carney, is an Albertan.

If Alberta secedes, it looks like the Separatists in Quebec will have no one to pay their bills. Do people understand now that the Separatist movement in Quebec was about the extraction of wealth from the West, specifically Alberta? It was a farce, blackmail. The game is coming to an end if Alberta secedes.
Except it will never happen. Alberta is on treaty land. They need permission from the Natives to be able to separate and they said they would challenge any separation attempt at the Supreme Court. The treaty agreement is with the Crown, not the province and they have no say in that. Danielle Smith must know this. There was no Alberta before 1905.

Why Quebec and Ontario control it all is because the majority of the population prefers to settle in the Quebec Windsor corridor, about 50% of Canada's total population is living in the Quebec Windsor corridor. That gives the East a lot of deciding power.
 

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It was always well known in political circles that Alberta would be the first province to secede from Confederation.

Why?

Because they have been footing the bills for the east, namely, Ontario and especially Quebec, for decades through transfer payments to the provinces.

The wealth generated by Alberta is substantial from oil and energy. Yet, the same elites in the East continued to piss all over Alberta and their aspirations, referring to them as racists and backward asshats with no environmental conscience.

The Laurentian Elites, who govern Canada, that is, the wealthy families of Quebec and Ontario who control Canada, are about to be bitch slapped in the face by Alberta, a rude awakening if you like. Hw ironic that the man at the helm in Ottawa, Mark Carney, is an Albertan.

If Alberta secedes, it looks like the Separatists in Quebec will have no one to pay their bills. Do people understand now that the Separatist movement in Quebec was about the extraction of wealth from the West, specifically Alberta? It was a farce, blackmail. The game is coming to an end if Alberta secedes.
À te lire je comprends que tu t'inquiète pour le Québec....c'est faire montre d'une belle solidaritée ...j'y vois tout de même un peu de Québec bashing ce qui maintenant semble être chose courante.

Donc si je comprends bien : L'Alberta examine un choix politique ? À cause du Québec serait la réponse ! Je souligne au passage que le gouvernement fédéral n'est vraiment pas pro Québec et depuis longtemps ( si vous désirez en débattre je suis disposé)...

Je remarque également de la part de certains Albertains une attirance vers les États-Unis...avec certains arguments dont entre autres une plus grande liberté de développement économique ( lire moins de contraintes environnementales)...j'ose croire que tu conviens que les dites restrictions proviennent du fédéral ?
 

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No matter the outcome, whether it's separation or secession, I want the billions flowing from Alberta to Quebec to stop. Even though I was born and raised in MTL, I genuinely want to see how the Quebec government copes once the transfers dry up. Maybe it will finally motivate people to get off their ass and demand accountability and push the government to get its shit together.
 

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I really can’t stand the MAGA movement when they lobby for their owners so much (IYKYK). Same goes for Canada. But hey, other than the fraud, elite pedo involvement - they’re doing A HELLUVA LOT more than Canada or liberal/ progressive countries that contribute to the decline of civilization with their ridiculous policies. It’s a whole rabbi hole. Oops forgot the T. Rabbit hole.
America should be America first, just like Canada should be Canada first.
Poland is the best example of this - meaning; serving and protecting their country.
 
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I really can’t stand the MAGA movement when they lobby for their owners so much (IYKYK). Same goes for Canada. But hey, other than the fraud, elite pedo involvement - they’re doing A HELLUVA LOT more than Canada or liberal/ progressive countries that contribute to the decline of civilization with their ridiculous policies. It’s a whole rabbi hole. Oops forgot the T. Rabbit hole.
America should be America first, just like Canada should be Canada first.
Poland is the best example of this - meaning; serving and protecting their country.
I agree with everything you said. Even the rabbi(t) part, but especially Canada for Canada. It pisses me off that everything sucks here, but instead of investing (like the LPC likes to say nowadays) in the country, we're sending billions elsewhere. Obviously Albertans are salty since a huge chunk of their money is going into pockets overseas. My kids see no future here and we're counting down the days we are finally ready to move. I've paid hundreds of thousands in taxes though and I may need medical attention again in a little while. I'll get what I can out of the "free" system first and then head down.

If Poland wasn't in such a horrible location, I would consider moving there. If a major war breaks out though, they are too vulnerable from all sides. Either they get invaded by an enemy or an ally walks through the country is in an indefensible geography.
 

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I want an American style Gladiator games where Quebecers and Albertans fight each other and its televised. Lol
I'd rather something a little more extreme. It is overdue. Some provincial level governments and definitely the federal needs to be put in its place.
 

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Poland is the best example of this - meaning; serving and protecting their country.
Poland has a history of being invaded and improperly controlled by neighboring countries which has contributed to this mandate. In case anyone forgot: 6 Polish citizens being executed by German army on Bloody Sunday, September 9, 1939, this in "retaliation" for a false flag German operation (note the dead bodies behind them previously shot by same firing squad)
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Poland has a history of being invaded and improperly controlled by neighboring countries which has contributed to this mandate. In case anyone forgot: 6 Polish citizens being executed by German army on Bloody Sunday, September 9, 1939, this in "retaliation" for a false flag German operation (note the dead bodies behind them previously shot by same firing squad)
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Not anymore. They shoot people who enter illegally.
Many other countries were once invaded too ya know. Poland today has a very strong stance on border security, unlike some other countries.
 

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Not anymore. They shoot people who enter illegally.
Many other countries were once invaded too ya know. Poland today has a very strong stance on border security, unlike some other countries.
Unlike Canada which is essentially an open border policy all thanks to Trudeau. People who cross illegally to Canada get rewarded with a free hotel and monthly paychecks. Weird government. Poland does it right.
 
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