Am I changing or is the industry changing?

[Lunaseraphim]

I’m not talking about you Luna. As I stated - lots of these new movements have entered SW spaces and a lot of SPs are just dramatic overall with their illusions of grandeur when it comes to self entitlement and men.

Ok good. That's not what I'm trying to do.

Its about "would you rather be perceived as a slutty SW or a glammy one!" Do you think the escort business has switched to the glammy side? Or du you wish it has?

I don't personally care. Obviously I would rather get perceived as glammy but also cute and approachable. I'm not aspiring to raise my rates anytime soon. All I know is these different images attract different clients and it's all branding and it's all fine.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

You got 2 choices : the red scare blue haired Barbie and the libertarian conspiracy theory Barbie hehe
(I'm just kidding btw)

 

[Rebaynia]

People tend to forget that this is an escort review/ ad site. Not a site where SPs can try to convince clients that they can do less for more money because “times have changed or they might’ve changed?”

Again, stop trying to fix what ain’t broken and stop telling men they’re gonna have to get used to paying escorts for longer dates, dinner and a movie and FMTY. If you can get that experience from a gent that’s MARVELOUS and very good for you - it’s just not the actual reality 95% of the time - you will be booked for sexual intercourse. You will not be a fake girlfriend for most of the days - since they will do all that cutesy stuff back home with their wives.

Be for fucking real and stop living in LalaLand.

You do realise that they may not mention it in their advertising, and a FMTY is a very good reason not to advertise the way you are saying, doesn't mean they don't do it at all. But if they stated it, they may loose the ability for that travel option. They have to advertise that way to protect their business and their clients.

You are putting too much attention into something that doesn't concern you. That isn't your clientel. Either you're jealous that they can get away with such high demands, or are envious. Not sure why you are saying advertising here. I've seen it on tryst, or twitter and such, not on merb, maybe they were reviewed? It wouldn't benifit them to advertise here it isn't their demographic, but we can encourage expieriences we want to have. Some people we see are here, and might appreciate the ideas.

But just because that isn't your reality, doesn't mean there isn't some debutant, who does this for fun rather than necessity, and doesn't want to cater to the same clients we see. Their business to do things their way. They don't have to spell it out in their advertising that coitus is included.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

You do realise that they may not mention it in their advertising, and a FMTY is a very good reason not to advertise the way you are saying, doesn't mean they don't do it at all. But if they stated it, they may loose the ability for that travel option. They have to advertise that way to protect their business and their clients.

You are putting too much attention into something that doesn't concern you. That isn't your clientel. Either you're jealous that they can get away with such high demands, or are envious. Not sure why you are saying advertising here. I've seen it on tryst, or twitter and such, not on merb, maybe they were reviewed? It wouldn't benifit them to advertise here it isn't their demographic, but we can encourage expieriences we want to have. Some people we see are here, and might appreciate the ideas.

But just because that isn't your reality, doesn't mean there isn't some debutant, who does this for fun rather than necessity, and doesn't want to cater to the same clients we see. Their business to do things their way. They don't have to spell it out in their advertising that coitus is included.

Honestly we're all getting clients and there's nothing to complain about unless someone is being an asshole.. I have nothing to complain about otherwise. I have a lot of great clients, I love my colleagues. I'm not trying to force people to give me gifts or take me out on dinner dates.. if you ask for something you might actually get it. Not always but once in a while. That doesn't mean I don't like everyone else...

 

[Non]

I’m not talking about high-end escorts - I mean anyone in this industry that advertises for that type of experience. This industry is already flooded with girls who think they can do this job but really can’t. The ones who lie about the services they offer, only to end up talking the whole time or wasting it on some social vibe. This isn’t a hangout.

One thing for sure that hasn’t changed: people want sex, and they’re going to look for it. However, these days, from a client’s perspective, it feels a lot more complex. Take LL for example which is the sameish concept as BP - now that’s real fast food - but it’s what people look for. Unfortunately it’s riddled with scammers so they resort to other websites or social media.

Say you’re a potential client who just wants strictly intimacy: If you’re picky and have a specific type, your chances are even slimmer to find the girl you’d like to book. You have to go through each girl’s restrictions, bios, booking processes, all of that. Add in this “new era” of escorting and you’re kind of underwhelmed with the whole process it takes - lots of girls want a minimum of 2H for the first time clients. Like how and why has this gotten so complicated? It shouldn’t be. The clients aren’t new here. It’s the girls. So it’s the girls changing this industry. Not the average Joe who is here because he’s thinking with his dick (like most guys do. Men are simple creatures of habit - they’re not gonna waste their time with this complicated stuff now)

I am also not saying that men don’t look for the dinner dates or social time either.
I’ve done the social stuff as well and it is actually very draining as you say. I’d rather be booked for 1H+ and chill naked instead of having underboob sweat in a musky speakeasy after defying Montreal traffic.

In a client’s POV, the whole point of Backpage was simplicity. I’m not on MERB, LL, or Tryst to find someone to take to the movies or play putt-putt. I’m there to pay for sex. Period. There’s other sites that are more of an “arrangement” type of meet that could be more suitable for the ladies that don’t wanna offer strictly intimacy.

It’s kinda crazy to complain every single day on your twitter about clients and how they reach out to you but come on here and act as if the main issue in the industry right now is how we decide to run our business lmao.

 

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

You got 2 choices : the red scare blue haired Barbie and the libertarian conspiracy theory Barbie hehe
(I'm just kidding btw)

You do realise that they may not mention it in their advertising, and a FMTY is a very good reason not to advertise the way you are saying, doesn't mean they don't do it at all. But if they stated it, they may loose the ability for that travel option. They have to advertise that way to protect their business and their clients.

You are putting too much attention into something that doesn't concern you. That isn't your clientel. Either you're jealous that they can get away with such high demands, or are envious. Not sure why you are saying advertising here. I've seen it on tryst, or twitter and such, not on merb, maybe they were reviewed? It wouldn't benifit them to advertise here it isn't their demographic, but we can encourage expieriences we want to have. Some people we see are here, and might appreciate the ideas.

But just because that isn't your reality, doesn't mean there isn't some debutant, who does this for fun rather than necessity, and doesn't want to cater to the same clients we see. Their business to do things their way. They don't have to spell it out in their advertising that coitus is included.

I stated that the arm candy girls need a different section if that’s what they’re mostly wanting to get booked for and to not impose onto men that this may be the new norm.

It makes it harder for guys to sift through to get to the intimacy offers because now it’s become complicated to find girls who want to provide the “down and dirty”

idgaf about what girls do. Just don’t clog ads with your “2H minimum champagne on planes” bullshit in the “working girls” space that offer HH or 1H SUCKY FUCKY guaranteed.

 

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

It’s kinda crazy to complain every single day on your twitter about clients and how they reach out to you but come on here and act as if the main issue in the industry right now is how we decide to run our business lmao.

It’s kinda crazy how there’s a mute button on Twitter that you can use if you don’t like seeing my posts lmao. I don’t even know who you are but ok. I complain about dumb inquires. Don’t pretend like you don’t have them. Read the actual thread before chiming in. You’d know that im not telling people how to run their businesses. If you actually paid attention.

 

[Enjoying life]

I think there are girls who have a minimum of 2h and super high rates because they have another job and they are very low volume.. I couldn't do that because I would lose so much of my clientele and this is my main source of income. I don't blame these girls for anything personally. Guys can book whoever they want. It's cool if you like prefer certain types of bookings, and if others like some over others.

Obviously guys are looking to pay for sex, but a lot of them want companionship and connection on top of it. I have gotten purely social bookings before with guys who found me on these platforms.. I don't think I'm hurting or scamming anyone. We all have a different type of clientele and it's fine.

 

[Non]

It’s kinda crazy how there’s a mute button on Twitter that you can use if you don’t like seeing my posts lmao. I don’t even know who you are but ok. I complain about dumb inquires. Don’t pretend like you don’t have them. Read the actual thread before chiming - you're a bit late to the party

Oh you’re already unfollowed haha I can’t with chronic complainers. I don’t really get how you can come here, say that booking has become so complicated for clients when you crash out everyday on your social medias about how no one can contact you properly.

 

[Enjoying life]

Always mix it up and show a bit of your interests like if you have many topics or even play your instrument if you play as believe me it Goes a long way!

 

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

Oh you’re already unfollowed haha I can’t with chronic complainers. I don’t really get how you can come here, say that booking has become so complicated for clients when you crash out everyday on your social medias about how no one can contact you properly.

Good for you what’s your handle so I can unfollow you if I already do?

 

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

Oh you’re already unfollowed haha I can’t with chronic complainers. I don’t really get how you can come here, say that booking has become so complicated for clients when you crash out everyday on your social medias about how no one can contact you properly.

I don’t get how you can come here and talk like you know what you’re talking about it’s quite funny actually. This is not relevant to inquiries lmao.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I stated that the arm candy girls need a different section if that’s what they’re mostly wanting to get booked for and to not impose onto men that this may be the new norm.

It makes it harder for guys to sift through to get to the intimacy offers because now it’s become complicated to find girls who want to provide the “down and dirty”

idgaf about what girls do. Just don’t clog ads with your “2H minimum champagne on planes” bullshit in the “working girls” space that offer HH or 1H SUCKY FUCKY guaranteed.

Why does it bother you? These girls probably get less business than we do.. it's not taking anything away from us. I understand your anger because it sucks seeing ppl receiving things we wish we had... But it is what it is.. I'm not going to complain about it. You said dinner dates are not your thing. That's totally fine. If you advertised it surely someone would book you for it because you're hot and intelligent. And I'm saying this despite you insulting me lol

 

[Jacob Israel]

Absolutely! Totally disgusting and I wonder why they’re even in this industry. They have personal vendettas they’re harbouring against men since ages ago. They bully men into sending them gifts or guilt trip them because it’s their birthday month lmao.
Then no one spoils them with their air fryer within 5 minutes and they post a status “men ain’t shit”
“Men are worthless - they cheat on their wives to come see me. Fuck men” …
… like okay big Bertha i think it’s time for your meds and some therapy.
Then they cry when the don’t get any bookings. These woke idiots are ruining this industry. No men wants to fkn approach you, you dumb bitch.

Let me just give you an other example of entitlement I saw on text 1 year ago. Disclaimer : not aiming at any girls on the thread. I met Julia and Valentina in the past an they were great. Luna and the others seem like good people. So when inquiring about rates: a girl said do you have 1400 bucks just like that without even giving details. Needless to say I didn’t see her. Those types of situation would never have happened before. Another case was a girl I saw that was extremely shy and anxious (not blaming her) but a 18 year old ago 10 years ago was way less shy and more friendly. That again is caused by social isolation and spending too much time on TikTok and believing people that claim that are rich when they are not. TikTok is one of the reason for this entitlement that is ridiculous. These younger girls (18-22) live through social media and think real life is like that when it’s not. @CLOUD 500 I think I know who u are talking about for bbbj. She’s a lost cause lol.

 

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

Why does it bother you? These girls probably get less business than we do.. it's not taking anything away from us. I understand your anger because it sucks seeing ppl receiving things we wish we had... But it is what it is.. I'm not going to complain about it

Again. My point is - it deters clients. I don’t get what’s so hard to understand. All this over saturation of women doing XYZ. Clients want to bang 95% they will be turned off by sifting through all this.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Again. My point is - it deters clients. I don’t get what’s so hard to understand. All this over saturation of women doing XYZ. Clients want to bang 95% they will be turned off by sifting through all this.

I get your point. But I'd like you to advertise your birthday month and see what happens

There's no one forcing anybody to do anything

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Let me just give you an other example of entitlement I saw on text 1 year ago. Disclaimer : not aiming at any girls on the thread. I met Julia and Valentina in the past an they were great. Luna and the others seem like good people. So when inquiring about rates: a girl said do you have 1400 bucks just like that without even giving details. Needless to say I didn’t see her. Those types of situation would never have happened before. Another case was a girl I saw that was extremely shy and anxious (not blaming her) but a 18 year old ago 10 years ago was way less shy and more friendly. That again is caused by social isolation and spending too much time on TikTok and believing people that claim that are rich when they are not. TikTok is one of the reason for this entitlement that is ridiculous. These younger girls (18-22) live through social media and think real life is like that when it’s not. @CLOUD 500 I think I know who ur are talking about for bbbj. She’s a lost cause lol.

But we are not these people that's the thing..

 

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

I get your point. But I'd like you to advertise your birthday month and see what happens

There's no one forcing anybody to do anything

Lmao no I already sell pussy and ass - I wanna be modest.

 

[Enjoying life]

Lmao no I already sell pussy and ass - I wanna be modest.

Love Valentina

 

[Non]

I don’t get how you can come here and talk like you know what you’re talking about it’s quite funny actually. This is not relevant to inquiries lmao.

How is it not relevant when you mentionned how other providers made it harder for clients to book because they handle bookings differently, like screening, two hours minimum. You think that’s what is making your business harder, that you complain about btw, that you threaten to quit? Really?

No one on here is advertising to be social time only, that’d be suicide.