An SP Needs Our Help !!!

[Robins Secret]

I am doing this to help out a certain SP that we all know pretty well from her posts here. Her family has found out that she is working as an SP and they are trying to dig up more to make her stop.

Im asking everyone to please keep names out of this thread ... I will give you her name via PM if you have a handle here that has been registered prior to last week.

Her family is threating to involve youth protection and is trying to hurt her any way that they can.

She will not be taking appointments from people she does not know for awhile unless you can give her a referance to another sp that you have been with.

Alot of us hide this from our families and when they find out its bad enough to have to explain but in this case they are trying to destroy her as well as her immediate family.

Thanks for your help,

PS.... if anyone does family law and is willing to talk to her please contact us.

 

[Wide Open]

Do I read this correctly: is she under 18?

Or maybe it's because she has kids of her own...

 

[Kepler]

Random thoughts

1- Could you provide more details as to how the family found out? Especially: is it possible for the SP to "deny, deny, deny"? Either way, she must not admit anything to her family, since it will all be held against her (by them, in court, by child protection, etc.)

2-Either way she will probably need to contact a lawyer very soon. Youth protection has broad powers and can make life difficult.

3-She should expect a surprise visit any day, any time. Obviously there should be no drugs whatsoever in her house. If she is the slightest bit messy it might even be worth it to spend a bit of cash on a cleaning service to go clean her place "spic and span" as soon as possible. The "first impression" she will leave on child services is crucial.

 

[sierrababy]

sp needs help

1- Could you provide more details as to how the family found out? Especially: is it possible for the SP to "deny, deny, deny"? Either way, she must not admit anything to her family, since it will all be held against her (by them, in court, by child protection, etc.)

2-Either way she will probably need to contact a lawyer very soon. Youth protection has broad powers and can make life difficult.

3-She should expect a surprise visit any day, any time. Obviously there should be no drugs whatsoever in her house. If she is the slightest bit messy it might even be worth it to spend a bit of cash on a cleaning service to go clean her place "spic and span" as soon as possible. The "first impression" she will leave on child services is crucial.

youth protection will NOT take your child for being an sp!i had avisit from them years ago from a vindictive family member who i DEFINITELY do not deal with since then-8 years ago, they visited me twice , first time to investigate the allegations which IS their job, second time to close my file AND told me as long as your lifestyle does NOT affect your children they do not take them!but be careful anyways, good luck to her, i hope it goes well!

 

[Robins Secret]

She is over 18 yrs old.

It's not right what is happening to her.

 

[Robins Secret]

If that is true, she will be very happy to know that. Thank you for your imput.

youth protection will NOT take your child for being an sp!i had avisit from them years ago from a vindictive family member who i DEFINITELY do not deal with since then-8 years ago, they visited me twice , first time to investigate the allegations which IS their job, second time to close my file AND told me as long as your lifestyle does NOT affect your children they do not take them!but be careful anyways, good luck to her, i hope it goes well!

 

[Doc Holliday]

I don't know who the person is, but all i have to say is that it's a sad situation, since i'd be willing to bet that one of the main reasons why the person is an sp is because of her love for her child in wanting to support the child financially, be a good provider & to possibly offer her a better life than she had herself.

I hope things turn out good for the both of them....the mother & her child.

 

[sierrababy]

I don't know who the person is, but all i have to say is that it's a sad situation, since i'd be willing to bet that one of the main reasons why the person is an sp is because of her love for her child in wanting to support the child financially, be a good provider & to possibly offer her a better life than she had herself.

I hope things turn out good for the both of them....the mother & her child.

i agree! not everyone has a great job, she could be sitting on her butt collecting welfare, but decides to work instead maybe to save money to go back to school to get a better job,

 

[Robins Secret]

You are so right Doc. Some women will go to any measures to make sure their children are taken care of.

It is obvious that she didn't have such a good childhood seeing as how it is her family that is turning on her and starting all this shit.

I don't know who the person is, but all i have to say is that it's a sad situation, since i'd be willing to bet that one of the main reasons why the person is an sp is because of her love for her child in wanting to support the child financially, be a good provider & to possibly offer her a better life than she had herself.

I hope things turn out good for the both of them....the mother & her child.

 

[Kepler]

youth protection will NOT take your child for being an sp! ... as long as your lifestyle does NOT affect your children

The danger is that once an investigation into your lifestyle starts, who knows where it will end. She must play it safe. And different inspectors will have differing points of view as to prostitution and it's impact on kids.

Not to mention that you don't know her background. Does she have any history of drug use? Arrests for any reasons whatsoever? What other things will the family say?

Ex. of prostitution and drugs: http://tinyurl.com/46tj82 , http://tinyurl.com/4g6szs

 

[sierrababy]

The danger is that once an investigation into your lifestyle starts, who knows where it will end. She must play it safe. And different inspectors will have differing points of view as to prostitution and it's impact on kids.

Not to mention that you don't know her background. Does she have any history of drug use? Arrests for any reasons whatsoever? What other things will the family say?

Ex. of prostitution and drugs: http://tinyurl.com/46tj82 , http://tinyurl.com/4g6szs

that is a good point. but they,ve gotta prove it first,hopefully for her and the little one it;ll work out.WOW! what a link that reminds me of at LEAST 3 people i know this happened to.

 

[master_bates]

Sierra is right, if the girl is not breaking any rules and is able to

provide for her child in a safe envornment then I really dont see

what the problem is. Its an honest job and the oldest profession

in the world.

 

[Dee]

1- Could you provide more details as to how the family found out? Especially: is it possible for the SP to "deny, deny, deny"? Either way, she must not admit anything to her family, since it will all be held against her (by them, in court, by child protection, etc.)

IDed her through internet ad with pictures....

 

[master_bates]

I dont blame the girls for not posting their face in pictures.

Makes you wonder if someone found her on an sp website what THEY were

doing on said site.

 

[Regular Guy]

Pseudonym?

Im asking everyone to please keep names out of this thread ... I will give you her name via PM if you have a handle here that has been registered prior to last week.

Obviously the family is aware of her real name but escorts as a rule employ pseudonyms. Is the vindictive family member aware of the pseudonym as well? Do they know any other details such as the agency? Is it necessary that members should be careful when reviewing not to provide the context as well? If as you suspect this family sleuth is going at it with a vengeance, it might be wise to take extensive precautions to protect her.

 

[Bucky]

Si la protection de la jeunesse est embarquée la dedans, ca va pas ben, les femmes qui travaillent la lâchent pas le morceau facilement pis je pense pas que les juges apprécient bcp les prostituées, ici on a une opinion différente pcq on visite les filles, mais si qqun ici apprenait que son enfant pratiquait la prostitution avec toutes les histoires de drogue, de proxenetes, de mts, de violence, c'est son devoir de parent d'agir pis faut pas toujours voir ca comme une vengeance, ca peut l'etre je dis pas le contraire, mais des histoires comme ca c'est jamais simple.

 

[Robins Secret]

Ok I think I have left out a few things that might help.... She is not in a custody battle or a divorce. The young lady in question is in her early 20's.
I agree with some of the points made here in referance to DPJ... They will not take a child away if she is being well cared for. I am certain that the person in question is a good mom and is only trying to provide for her daughter. I have seen it all too often, jealousy destroy's people. This is the case here. Without getting into to much publicly her so called family is just trying to hurt her. Also from what I understand this family member noticed the pics (she was a female looking for dirt I guess).

I spoke with the sp in question and she thanks everyone for their support. It means alot to her knowing that she has people on her side.

 

[Bucky]

Je lui souhaite bonne chance sincèrement, j'espère qu'elle va s'en tirer sans trop de bobos, ptet que de déménager pourrait l'aider ca fait du bien parfois de s'éloigner de sa famille

 

[Bruce34]

I can only assume what is happening as I don’t have the full picture. If the SP thinks that this is too personal, I do not mind, removing this post.
Stay out of the courtroom, avoid legal hassles and law enforcements.

I have seen how ugly it is in the Montreal Superior Court as separated couples sit and wait to do a 5 minutes appearance and wait for months before facing the judge. Until then: meetings with social workers, psychologists, lawyers at 300-400$ an hour, and last minute deals. All that to find out that it was money wasted.

Avoid the courtroom means to deal with the family member. Explain or deny but do the necessary steps to avoid legal hassle. All the effort here is worth it. The image of the industry is an ugly one and it’s is scary when it’s someone closed by.

I’ve dated an SP and I do know it is dangerous but still, she can be on a call and never come back. So this family member is threatening, not making the call yet. The family wants a mother home and not out there getting hurt.

I understand the needs for money. Easy money. Who doesn't?

I don’t know how I would make my case with a family member: “I am a mother, not an SP”. I am not in her shoes.

But stay out of the legal loop. Once you are in it, it’s extremely hard to get out. It’s long, costly and mentally draining.

Expects the worse, hope for the best: get screened for drugs and STD, regularly. The court judgments here are proofs that judge will link both drugs and prostitution. I have seen judges with so many prejudices that they should not be there in the first place. Some think that because that to school is neglect, others think private schools are not worth it. One thing for sure, Montreal judges are more open. I have seen judges allow parents visitations even when the parent is currently on drugs.

Let’s get back to the point. Drugs tests and STDs test prove that she is careful and responsible. Also logs her clients visits. (This is a lawyer’s call when he faces the judge). Some judges love records. Records show that she sees clients without the child present and that (if it’s the case) she does outcalls, thus not endangering the child.

There are cases where there are 15 witnesses present and have said that the mother is a fit and the best mom in the world, but judges have turned the other way.

Get a lawyer but don’t get a lawyer. Lawyers when they don’t have clients are like real estate agents. They will talk and talk. Do hear their advices and the necessary steps. But do go see lawyers and let them hear the situation and choose the best one who can relate to her case, should be picked.

Stella protects the sex worker not the mother. Winning custody is about looking good not defending the profession.

If facing court, state that you had poor judgment. That you did what you thought best for the child. That you have stopped, found a normal and regular job, that you pay your taxes, that you have never ever missed parent-teacher meetings, that you attend to all her activities and you have provided all the necessary care.

Good luck.

 

[Bruce34]

I can only assume what is happening as I don’t have the full picture. If the SP thinks that this is too personal, I do not mind, removing this post.
Stay out of the courtroom, avoid legal hassles and law enforcements.

I have seen how ugly it is in the Montreal Superior Court as separated couples sit and wait to do a 5 minutes appearance and wait for months before facing the judge. Until then: meetings with social workers, psychologists, lawyers at 300-400$ an hour, and last minute deals. All that to find out that it was money wasted.

Avoid the courtroom means to deal with the family member. Explain or deny but do the necessary steps to avoid legal hassle. All the effort here is worth it. The image of the industry is an ugly one and it’s is scary when it’s someone closed by.

I’ve dated an SP and I do know it is dangerous but still, she can be on a call and never come back. So this family member is threatening, not making the call yet. The family wants a mother home and not out there getting hurt.

I understand the needs for money. Easy money. Who doesn't?

I don’t know how I would make my case with a family member: “I am a mother, not an SP”. I am not in her shoes.

But stay out of the legal loop. Once you are in it, it’s extremely hard to get out. It’s long, costly and mentally draining.

Expects the worse, hope for the best: get screened for drugs and STD, regularly. The court judgments here are proofs that judge will link both drugs and prostitution. I have seen judges with so many prejudices that they should not be there in the first place. Some think that because that to school is neglect, others think private schools are not worth it. One thing for sure, Montreal judges are more open. I have seen judges allow parents visitations even when the parent is currently on drugs.

Let’s get back to the point. Drugs tests and STDs test prove that she is careful and responsible. Also logs her clients visits. (This is a lawyer’s call when he faces the judge). Some judges love records. Records show that she sees clients without the child present and that (if it’s the case) she does outcalls, thus not endangering the child.

There are cases where there are 15 witnesses present and have said that the mother is a fit and the best mom in the world, but judges have turned the other way.

Get a lawyer but don’t get a lawyer. Lawyers when they don’t have clients are like real estate agents. They will talk and talk. Do hear their advices and the necessary steps. But do go see lawyers and let them hear the situation and choose the best one who can relate to her case, should be picked.

Stella protects the sex worker not the mother. Winning custody is about looking good not defending the profession.

If facing court, state that you had poor judgment. That you did what you thought best for the child. That you have stopped, found a normal and regular job, that you pay your taxes, that you have never ever missed parent-teacher meetings, that you attend to all her activities and you have provided all the necessary care.

Good luck.