Arnold Schwarzenegger admits fathering a child with member of household staff

[Merlot]

Geeez,

Electing Barack Obama is evening more amazingly stupid.

You need a hobby.

This is not about politics or your Right Wing hangups. It's about people with little if any moral scruples, and in this case as with many others, it concerns huge egos feeling entitled to all their selfish desires no matter who they hurt or the pledges they've made. There's nothing new about it, it's just another confirmation that extremely ambitious people who achieve fame and fortune are rarely ever satisfied and develop the mentality of excess and entitlement, probably having a lot to do with never growing up. Here is Arnold worth at least $200 million, governor of California, in with the so-called elite of society through his own stardom and then the Kennedy family connections...and he can't control himself from impregnating the "yuk" maid just because she was there. And NO...it wouldn't matter what the maid was like.

Pathetic,

Merlot

 

[daydreamer41]

Geeez,



You need a hobby.

This is not about politics or your Right Wing hangups. It's about people with little if any moral scruples, and in this case as with many others, it concerns huge egos feeling entitled to all their selfish desires no matter who they hurt or the pledges they've made. There's nothing new about it, it's just another confirmation that extremely ambitious people who achieve fame and fortune are rarely ever satisfied and develop the mentality of excess and entitlement, probably having a lot to do with never growing up. Here is Arnold worth at least $200 million, governor of California, in with the so-called elite of society through his own stardom and then the Kennedy family connections...and he can't control himself from impregnating the "yuk" maid just because she was there. And NO...it wouldn't matter what the maid was like.

Pathetic,

Merlot

Merlot, I have no idea how your post relates to what I posted and you quote me. I generally have no idea you generally try to say, and this post is no exception.

 

[StefanoUS]

Arnold's wife Maria and the housekeeper were both pregnant at the same time and the housekeeper was working in the their house at the time, except Maria did not know that both women were carrying baby's from the same father.

You could never make this shit up!

 

[Ricky bonds]

Electing Barack Obama is evening more amazingly stupid.

Who would you elect instead? A gun- toting/ nra supporting/ republican? Gtfoh !

 

[daydreamer41]

Who would you elect instead? A gun- toting/ nra supporting/ republican? Gtfoh !

Much better than Obama, the guy is wrecking the world.

 

[JH Fan]

Republicans should remember that the stock market did better when Clinton was in than it did under Bush.

How can the tea bagging rednecks who voted twice for Bush can ever remember anything ?
First, they would need a brain to hold a bit of memory.

 

[StefanoUS]

It is nobody's business, but Clinton was held accountable, Arnold wasn't. It was kept quiet. Has he even paid the woman child support? If not, he owes her some money.

I think the difference comes down to Arnold admitting the affair and Clinton denying them. Not that either are model citizens, but you always get jammed up when you start lying.
Same thing with Martha Stewart. She lied about her insider trading instead of just admitting she got tips from her broker. She could have just paid a fine. But instead she started lying and that nearly destroyed her financially.

 

[Aflac Duck]

Billy got through that one in not too bad a shape, I think Arny will even do better. It will all be forgotten in 6 months.

 

[daydreamer41]

It is nobody's business, but Clinton was held accountable, Arnold wasn't. It was kept quiet. Has he even paid the woman child support? If not, he owes her some money.

I used the word phony because it's always the Republicans who raise the moral issues and promote "family values." Clinton's perjury came about because Republicans encouraged Paula Jones to bring the case in the first place. Newt Gingrich led the impeachment procedure, and at the same time he was cheating on his wife which, in his home state of Georgia, is a crime just like perjury.

I didn't vote for Clinton, but I could live with $1 a gallon gas and 4% employment again. Republicans should remember that the stock market did better when Clinton was in than it did under Bush.

Come on. Adultery even in Georgia is not a crime. It can be a reason for divorce, but it is not a crime. Perjury is a serious crime because a witness can alter the outcome of a court case if someone commits perjury. So why does everyone dismiss what Bill Clinton did. He did lie to the public when he said he never had sex with "that" woman (Lewinsky) on National TV. I distinctly remember the live broadcast. Perjury is an impeachable offense.

He being a lawyer, he shouldn't have lied, which he did. He lost his law license for 5 years, but he was never prosecuted for perjury by the discretion of a Judge.

 

[Merlot]

Hello all.

"So why does everyone dismiss what Bill Clinton did." Because the lie (perjury) was about sex.

Perjury is indeed a serious crime, and the tragic part of the lie by President Bill Clinton was it was totally unnecessary. While the Lewinski episode was a national moral embarrassment, that was all it would ever have been without the lie because there was no crime previous to the lie. The only person who could have filed a case for harassment or lewd behavior or whatever was Lewinski and she never attempted to and never expressed any thought of doing so. That should have made it case closed in the legal sense. The fact that the public was deeply titillated by the episode did not change the fact there was no case. All the stained dressed showed was they did have oral sex. But without a complaint by a legal adult like Lewinski there was nothing legal to pursue, so the reason most dismiss the perjury Clinton committed was because it was the product of an extended abuse of Congressional authority and power through a calculated malicious political which hunt based on an episode where no legal offense had been committed.

Clinton should just have admitted the "affair" and taken the heat of embarrassment he got anyway, then the Republicans would only have been able to complain about immorality instead of bilking the American people of $50 million for a political witch hunt most of the public, except Clinton haters, saw through and dismissed exactly for what it was...expedient political opportunism. And despite the lie being "perjury", in the end Clinton lied about sex. He didn't steal tax money, take bribes, sell out technological or state secrets...he lied about sex...WHO CARES!

What does this have to do with Schwarzenegger anyway. As with Clinton, Schwarzenegger did not commit any crime. Both may be cases about the highest government officials committing salacious immoral offenses that titillate the public's interest, but neither of the original indiscretions involves any illegality. So why is the Clinton episode being brought up. This is just bitter sour grapes again. Try to move on with your life DD.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[daydreamer41]

In Georgia, adultery is a misdemeanor, as is being a pimp. But what did Clinton's having an affair with Lewinski have to do with the Paula Jones case? Republicans think there is one set of rules for them and another for everyone else.

Sen. David Vitter, a client of the DC Madam, is still in office. He didn't resign and he wasn't punished. Former Gov. Elliot Spitzer resigned for doing the same thing.

It does not seem to sink into your brains - both Curious and Merlot.

Clinton lied under oath. Lying under oath may constitute perjury, if prosecuted. Vitter and Spitzer both had affairs and in fact both broke prositution laws in the US, but neither were prosecuted like Clinton was never prosecuted for perjury. Clinton was asked about his affair with Lewinsky because he was accused of harrassing Jones. He did not tell the truth when asked in a court of law. So I really don't get this "Republicans think there is one set of rules for them ... " crap. It applies more to Clinton and the Democrats than any Republican.

Congress had every right under their powers to impeach Clinton under the articles of Impeachment in the Constitution. Perjury is a serious crime. It has caused innocent people to be found guitly for serious crimes like murder. I am so sick of you libs dismissing something like perjury. By the way, Clinton like DSK has been accused of rape, but Clinton, unlike DSK, has never been prosecuted. Look up Junita Broaddrick while you have a chance, although you never will.

Now, your argument about Adultery being a misdemeanor in Georgia and comparing it to perjury is laughable. Probably nobody is ever prosecuted for Adultery or has been prosecuted for more than 50 years, or more like 100 years, because the Georgia police would not have the resources to prosecute everyone who commits adultery and have the resources to prosecute any other crime.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Arnold Praised Maid For Doing "An Incredible Job"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_schwarzenegger_shriver_separation

"The Insider" also broadcast video Tuesday of Maria Shriver praising Mildred Baena at a 2001 celebration for one of Baena's relatives. Shriver said she was proud of Baena for being a single, hard-working mother. Schwarzenegger can be heard echoing her praise, saying the housekeeper did "an incredible job."

Does anyone know what Arnold was referring to when he said she did "an incredible job"?

 

[daydreamer41]

People lie all the time under oath in civil cases and it is rarely prosecuted. I once witnessed a former employer do this and she got away with it despite the fact that I provided documented evidence that proved she was lying. You only have to watch any of these TV courtroom shows to know that when both parties tell opposite stories one of them is lying.

By the way, the next time a customs officer asks you why you are coming to Montreal and you do not say, "I'm going to Montreal to have sex with prostitutes," then you are doing the same thing that Clinton did. It doesn't matter that you are not under oath, it is still illegal.

My objection in all this is that Republicans, who made a national circus of Clinton's affair, seem to think the same rules do not apply to them. Do you think if they were called into court, and no one could prove that they were lying, that they wouldn't lie about it?

Can you tell me of an incident where a Republican lied in court and was found to be lying?

Clinton took the chance of lying in court. He choose to lie on National TV but he got caught because Lewinsky saved the dress and proved him to be lying. If she did not save the dress with the stain or had dry cleaned it, Clinton may have gotten away with the lie. But can you tell me of a case where a Republican did the same thing? Sure Republicans, who are politicians, have lied. But tell me a parallel case.

 

[Merlot]

It does not seem to sink into your brains - both Curious and Merlot.

Clinton lied under oath (about SEX). Lying under oath may constitute perjury, if prosecuted. Vitter and Spitzer both had affairs and in fact both broke prositution laws in the US, but neither were prosecuted like Clinton was never prosecuted for perjury. Clinton was asked about his affair with Lewinsky because he was accused of harrassing Jones. He did not tell the truth when asked in a court of law. So I really don't get this "Republicans think there is one set of rules for them ... " crap. It applies more to Clinton and the Democrats than any Republican.

Congress had every right under their powers to impeach Clinton under the articles of Impeachment in the Constitution. Perjury is a serious crime. It has caused innocent people to be found guitly for serious crimes like murder. I am so sick of you libs dismissing something like perjury. By the way, Clinton like DSK has been accused of rape, but Clinton, unlike DSK, has never been prosecuted. Look up Junita Broaddrick while you have a chance, although you never will.

Geeez,

You don't get it do you. Please explain what crime in the Lewinski episode the Republicans spent $50 million on to chase President Clinton before the perjury? Answer: NONE!

"In 1997, Broaddrick had filed a sworn affidavit with Paula Jones' lawyers, denying that Clinton had ever assaulted her", then contradicted herself in 1998. If there was anything to it why didn't the Republicans who already had a full investigation going add this to the charges, and why wasn't Clinton asked about it under oath?

The only issue concerning the perjury was consensual oral sex. Anyone who wants to throw out any President of any party for lying about adult consensual sex either cares nothing about the stability of government or is ignorant about the implications of removing the President over such a basis that was not an offense until the lie, and any person who favors doing so is a selfish ideologue who cares only about political power...not his country.

Remember, Democrats decided not to pursue G. W. Bush or his pals on lying to Congress over WMDs in Iraq when they regained control in 2006. If they had it would have been about something that has cost over $500 billion and nearly 4000 American lives (in Iraq alone)...infinitely more serious than a freaking consensual blowjob between adults.

You and Newt Gingrich really need to have a drink together so you can cry over your continuing bitterness about not getting President Clinton, and then maybe, just maybe, you can move on with your life.

This whole thing about President Clinton has nothing to do with "Arnold" the subject of this thread.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[daydreamer41]

Geeez,

You don't get it do you. Please explain what crime in the Lewinski episode the Republicans spent $50 million on to chase President Clinton before the perjury? Answer: NONE!

"In 1997, Broaddrick had filed a sworn affidavit with Paula Jones' lawyers, denying that Clinton had ever assaulted her", then contradicted herself in 1998. If there was anything to it why didn't the Republicans who already had a full investigation going add this to the charges, and why wasn't Clinton asked about it under oath?

The only issue concerning the perjury was consensual oral sex. Anyone who wants to throw out any President of any party for lying about adult consensual sex either cares nothing about the stability of government or is ignorant about the implications of removing the President over such a basis that was not an offense until the lie, and any person who favors doing so is a selfish ideologue who cares only about political power...not his country.

Remember, Democrats decided not to pursue G. W. Bush or his pals on lying to Congress over WMDs in Iraq when they regained control in 2006. If they had it would have been about something that has cost over $500 billion and nearly 4000 American lives (in Iraq alone)...infinitely more serious than a freaking consensual blowjob between adults.

You and Newt Gingrich really need to have a drink together so you can cry over your continuing bitterness about not getting President Clinton, and then maybe, just maybe, you can move on with your life.

This whole thing about President Clinton has nothing to do with "Arnold" the subject of this thread.

Cheers,

Merlot

How about Perjury, Merlot. It does not matter if the question is about sex or not, you lie under oath, it's Perjury. Or is it in Merlot's world-

If you lie about anything other than sex, IT'S PERJURY.

If you lie about sex, you're home free, no Perjury.

Have some more Merlot, Merlot. I see where you get your logic.

And like aways, I don't start these things and you accuse me of going off subject.

Good night Merlot. :whoo:

 

[daydreamer41]

To answer DD's question: George Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, violating his oath of office to report faithfully to the American people, and getting thousands of Americans killed in the process. I guess you don't remember Watergate, Iran-Contra and Lewis "Scooter" Libby.


But there's more about Arnold:

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b24...edium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=netzero_celebnews

Give me a break. Don't you quit? Bush lied, Bush lied, blah, blah, blah. It's like a broken record.

Bush was not under oath of a court of law. Bush did not lie. He had CIA Intelligence, the same Intelligence that John Kerry had and Hillary Clinton had, who BOTH SAID that Iraq WMD. Recently Rumsfeld said that the Intelligence may have been bad. Both Clinton and Kerry voted to give Bush the power to go to war in Iraq. For you libs you are so obessesed about war, you ain't saying nothing about Libiya

One more thing for you libs.

Obama is breaking the law by still engaging in Libiya after 60 days without the consent of Congress. Have I heard one complaint about it. Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio has. He has said that Obama is acting unconstitutional. He is probably the only Honest Lib out there.

You see Bush went to Congress to get consent. Obama has not, and yes is breaking the law.

But for HYPOCRITICAL Democrats the bottom line is THE LAW DOES NOT APPLY FOR DEMOCRAT LIBS. Only Conservatives can be held accountable.

I don't know why Obama isn't arrested and prosecuted???????

 

[Ricky bonds]

Its pretty funny to be reading once again about the 'gun-toting'/ nra supporting/ freedom taking/ war thirsting republicans..
Arnold did this as a man, not As a Hypocritical republican...
He apparently has a history of groping women from his young hollywood days.. So this shouldnt come as a surprise...
And lets not forget, this is the same guy that pushed for emission laws, and strict motor vehicle regulations.. While owning a fleet of hummers.. Typical 'gun-toting/ nra supporting/ republicans:amen:

( and you dont erase over 20 years of driving hummers.. By getting your hands on one 'hydrogen prototype' h2h...)

 

[Doc Holliday]

to do this 10 years ago, before he ran for governor,
just shows what he thinks about the intellect of the American voting public.

What would he know about what Americans think? He's Austrian!

(He never should have been allowed to be Governor to begin with)

 

[prophetofdoom]

Arnold is not a typical Conservative though - on the social side of things he has not been strident as far as I know. I think most men of means either hobby or bang on the side by other means. They are no different from the average hobbyist in this respect - except that they have more opportunity and means. However doing the house keeper qualifies as poor judgement. Had she been attractive, I would consider it a mitigating factor. Poor taste is what I cannot forgive in this case.

That being said, being a hobbyist myself, my natural tendency is to sympathise with the philanderer (though personally I have never cheated on a girl) provided everything is consensual.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Arnold is not a typical Conservative though - on the social side of things he has not been strident as far as I know. I think most men of means either hobby or bang on the side by other means. They are no different from the average hobbyist in this respect - except that they have more opportunity and means. However doing the house keeper qualifies as poor judgement. Had she been attractive, I would consider it a mitigating factor. Poor taste is what I cannot forgive in this case.

That being said, being a hobbyist myself, my natural tendency is to sympathise with the philanderer (though personally I have never cheated on a girl) provided everything is consensual.

You can say that again! Many current politicians waving the conservative flag are a bunch of hippocrites & fall under the same group as Arnie. Take Newt Gingrich, for example. He's currently on his 3rd marriage. He cheated on & dumped his first wife while she was an invalid recovering from an accident. He cheated on wife #2 with his current wife, his former secretary whom he'd fuck inside his own car parked outside his house.

The guy is a big phony & a f#*#@ scumbag. Along with wingnuts like Palin & Bachmann, he'd be one of the easiest ones in the bunch to beat in an election because he's got dozens & dozens of skeletons in his closet!

And then there's Rudy Giuliani.....another hypocrite. A big phony who enjoys dressing up as a woman. He was incompetent as NYC's mayor until 9/11 saved his ass.

Mitt Romney is the Republicans' best bet, but he's another phony. He's not a real conservative & his record as Massassuchets' Governor proves it. Obamacare? Hah! Romneycare was much more liberal than Obamacare ever was & ever will be. Of course, Romney now backtracks on every single political position (and decision) he's ever taken as Governor for the sake of appeasing to the conservatives. However, the major problem with the current Republican base when it comes to Romney is his religion. He's a mormon & that's not too highly regarded among religious fanatics.

I've always said from day 1 that Arnold was a closet Democrat.