The only thing I agree with in your post is that Arnold was a closet Democrat. He did not do such a great job as Gov. either. California is a mess.
Arnold Schwarzenegger admits fathering a child with member of household staff
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The only thing I agree with in your post is that Arnold was a closet Democrat. He did not do such a great job as Gov. either. California is a mess.
Ya know it always amazes me that when a right winger falls out of the graces of the party and the following...he/she is always labeled as a Dem or something else...must be great to live in a world with excuses for everything...
. I particularly love the one Gingrich is using...I fucked around on my wife because I was a patriot...lol...:lol:...after he relentlessly hounded Clinton like a right wing, bible thumping, self righteous asshole...:amen:
Ya know it always amazes me that when a right winger falls out of the graces of the party and the following...he/she is always labeled as a Dem or something else...must be great to live in a world with excuses for everything...
I particularly love the one Gingrich is using...I fucked around on my wife because I was a patriot...lol...:lol:...after he relentlessly hounded Clinton like a right wing, bible thumping, self righteous asshole...:amen:
I don't know if it is this board or Left-wingnuts, in general, but it seems that everything boils down to sex to you. You must see everything as black and white. You must think all conservatives are bible thumpers (they are not). But in a lot of your posts, that's what it boils down to. It does not matter how many times some one says that the reason why Clinton was impeached was because he lied about messing around with Monica Lewinsky, not that he messed around with Monica Lewinsky. If he would have said in Court, yeah I had sexual contact with that woman, the Repubs would never had any reason to start impeachment proceedings against him. Clinton took a calculated risk (by lying) and miscalculated (she saved the dress).
But you libs are so hung up with it. Gingrich fooled around on his wife. He never had the opportunity to lie about it in court. If he had lied about it in court, I would say he is a hypocrite. But he did not. You blurr issues so much that your arguments make no sense, but to yourselves.
Arnold Schwarzenagger ran as a fiscal Conservative. He did nothing in the 6 years that he was governor to solve the problem, or reduce taxes and the debt problem. California has the same fiscal problems, if not worse, as it did when he was elected as Gov. California has high taxes, a huge debt, inadequate number of prison space - which they are going to have to release many felons with long-term sentences. The state is a mess.
:lol: LOL! You should read a little here and know your audience. I'm actually a registered independent. I have views on both sides of the aisle. I vote on issues (once I educate myself on them...) and not for party. Generally I am a centrist who believes in working out solutions rather than pointing fingers or calling names...hardly black and white. I laugh at the views of both sides of the extreme.
My point was simple...it's always so easy to point a finger or to say what is wrong...problem is, NO ONE is perfect...hence no one should be pointing fingers. Gingrich, by his actions, is a plain and simple hypocrite...now he wants the american public to elect him to office. That my friend is a farce.
BTW, for future reference...I have always laughed the hardest at right wingers who use the "L" word like it is a silver bullet or something. Seems the party you support has not had a good solution to a problem in forever, hence all they can do to get elected is sling mud and call names. In case you haven't taken a giant leap into 2011...its kinda boring and pointless any more. Even the geniuses on the right have figured that out...
...well except for Palin nad Trump and they're going no where fast:nod:.:lol: LOL! You should read a little here and know your audience. I'm actually a registered independent. I have views on both sides of the aisle. I vote on issues (once I educate myself on them...) and not for party. Generally I am a centrist who believes in working out solutions rather than pointing fingers or calling names...hardly black and white. I laugh at the views of both sides of the extreme.
My point was simple...it's always so easy to point a finger or to say what is wrong...problem is, NO ONE is perfect...hence no one should be pointing fingers. Gingrich, by his actions, is a plain and simple hypocrite...now he wants the american public to elect him to office. That my friend is a farce.
BTW, for future reference...I have always laughed the hardest at right wingers who use the "L" word like it is a silver bullet or something. Seems the party you support has not had a good solution to a problem in forever, hence all they can do to get elected is sling mud and call names. In case you haven't taken a giant leap into 2011...its kinda boring and pointless any more. Even the geniuses on the right have figured that out...
The fact that you grouped Trump and Palin makes me think you are a Lib. Trump is a blow hard. Palin is a thinking Conservative. You can make fun of her, but she is not dumb like the media and the libs paint her.
Since you say that you educate yourself on the issues, J-man, please tell me what you think about our economy? the 14.6 Trillion dollar deficit? What is the most pressing problem that the country has at the moment? What do you think of Milton Friedman? John Maynard Keynes? Let me know.
I agree with you that it's wrong to think all conservatives are bible thumpers. However, the majority of bible thumpers happen to be conservatives.
You're kidding, right? LOL!!!!
I guess you haven't seen her interviews (the ones that are not scripted by her people) in the 'mainstream' media during the last campaign.
What's even more astonishing is that the ones making the most fun of her (and her hillbilly family) are people that worked closely with her during the last election....former campaign workers of hers & most of McCain's people. I read the other day that some of them are certain that she also suffers from a form of mental handicap.
Look, Palin dug her own grave & digs it even deeper whenever she opens her mouth. She's generally regarded as a quitter & someone with the knowledge & intelligence of a 12-year old. She was totally unqualified to be John McCain's running mate & in the long run, the Republican party paid & continues to pay for that political gaffe on the part of the McCain camp.
Palin on Trump's search for the birth certificate: "More power to him." So she grouped herself with Trump. She didn't say there was no birth certificate, but she did say she was on Trump's side.
Mainstream media????? They are liberal hacks. I would not call the majority of them Mainstream.
Palin was asked some pointed questions by Kate Couric. How come mainstream media person ever asked Obama what his foreign policy experience? He had none. Do you remember when he said that there were 57 states in the United States? Now that is stupid.
How come the mainstream media did not jump all over that. Sorry, buddy, you don't win any points on this one. Ok, she could not name another Supreme Court decision she did not agree with. She got stumped. So what. She is not a lawyer. Couric asked her that question to trip her up. The first question was about Roe vs. Wade. Palin said she believed in State's rights. Then out of the blue, Couric asked her about other court cases she disagrees with. What was the purpose of the question? To make her look stupid. If Palin was a lawyer, I would say there is something wrong, but she is not.
The mainstream media does not play gotcha with Obama, Pelosi or Reid. Only Fox news asks tough questions of those 3. Brett Baird's interview of Obama and Greta Van Susteren's interview of Harry Reid. Neither played gotcha.
While I don't think Palin would be the best candidate at this moment, she is bringing focus on the US's number 1 problem - which is its economic lack of competitiveness and dismal growth during the last 3 1/2 years (last year of Bush and the past 2 1/2 years of Obama). Palin's message has been what Reagan's message was - lower taxes, both corporate and individual and the US will be competitive in the world. The US corporate tax rate is amongst the highest in the world. Add this to the problem that wages in countries like China and India are lower, many US corporations have outsourced jobs and mfg facilities to these and other countries.
She backed Trump on one issue. How does she group herself with him on 1 issue? She just wanted an answer to the question. What good did it do Obama to ignore the question for 2 years? He could have answered it when the question came up and that would have been the end of it.
What does A gun-toting, nra supporting, war mongering, freedom taking.. republican like sarah palin
Have to do with arnold?
Have to do with arnold?
I don't know - Ask Doc.
And what do you have against our 2nd Admendment?
Well...we agree on Trump - egotistical asshole that he is...:thumb:. I think we probably agree on the worst issue too...more on that later...
The mere fact that you can take Palin seriously tells me where you sit. Anyone in the middle or left cannot take a word she says seriously. Hell, any woman with a brain won't take her seriously. A "thinking" :lol: conservative...are you one bit serious? I have listened to her...she my friend is a blowhard. Has she ever had an original idea? Better yet, has she found Russia yet? Or is she still too busy trying to figure out how her abstinent teen got pregnant? Or trying to find ways to screw the Alaskan taxpayers out of more money?
You mean the deficit generated by Dubya/Cheney, that deficit? You do recall that Clinton handed Bush a surplus, correct? And you are not going to begin to blame the inherited deficit on Obama, 2 years into his term...are you? Nor can you even begin to state that anyone could have cleared up that mess in 2 years...right???
I believe the most pressing problem in this country is still the economy. The same economy that was driven into the tank by the greedy getting greedier...that economy. More, more, more....give me more. That is the biggest problem in our country. Factors contributing include the lack of fiscal constraint by both sides of the aisle; poor decisions dating back to administrations from both sides; obscene profits made by oil companies; the tax breaks given to corporations and the rich; the broken health care industry...and more.
Take a look at all the facts DD. BTW, a discussion on the theories of Freidman and Keynes will get us where? Because as you probably know...theory can be twisted in many ways to suit many arguements...lawyers and politicians do it for a living...
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Well...we agree on Trump - egotistical asshole that he is...:thumb:. I think we probably agree on the worst issue too...more on that later...
The mere fact that you can take Palin seriously tells me where you sit. Anyone in the middle or left cannot take a word she says seriously. Hell, any woman with a brain won't take her seriously. A "thinking" :lol: conservative...are you one bit serious? I have listened to her...she my friend is a blowhard. Has she ever had an original idea? Better yet, has she found Russia yet? Or is she still too busy trying to figure out how her abstinent teen got pregnant? Or trying to find ways to screw the Alaskan taxpayers out of more money?
You mean the deficit generated by Dubya/Cheney, that deficit? You do recall that Clinton handed Bush a surplus, correct? And you are not going to begin to blame the inherited deficit on Obama, 2 years into his term...are you? Nor can you even begin to state that anyone could have cleared up that mess in 2 years...right???
I believe the most pressing problem in this country is still the economy. The same economy that was driven into the tank by the greedy getting greedier...that economy. More, more, more....give me more. That is the biggest problem in our country. Factors contributing include the lack of fiscal constraint by both sides of the aisle; poor decisions dating back to administrations from both sides; obscene profits made by oil companies; the tax breaks given to corporations and the rich; the broken health care industry...and more.
Take a look at all the facts DD. BTW, a discussion on the theories of Freidman and Keynes will get us where? Because as you probably know...theory can be twisted in many ways to suit many arguements...lawyers and politicians do it for a living...
You are one big stream of liberal talking points. There's nothing original or factual in your monologue Jman.
I will just take a few of your comments - because this thread is about Arnold.
Jman says: "obscene profits made by oil companies"are part of the problem. Fact - the Federal tax on Gasoline is higher than the profits made by the Oil companies. The Federal Tax is 18.4 cents per gallon. The profit margin for oil companies is 6.2 percent. They rank 114 out of 215 industries:
http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/2011/05/12/oil-industry-profit-margin-ranks-114-out-215/
Jman says: "the tax breaks given to corporations and the rich" are part of the problem. Did you know Jman that 1/2 of the American people pay 0 Federal tax. The other half pay ALL of the FEDERAL TAXES.
Did you know Jman that the US Corporation tax is 35 percent, ranked the 5th highest in the world. Canada's tax rate was cut to 29 percent and the effective rate is 20 percent. Many countries are lowering corporate tax rates to entice international companies to build plants and offices in their countries so they can compete with the global marketplace in wages and taxes. You and Obama are going in the opposite direction with the world.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/257977-high-u-s-corporate-tax-rate-a-barrier-to-economic-growth
Jman says: "You do recall that Clinton handed Bush a surplus, correct? And you are not going to begin to blame the inherited deficit on Obama, 2 years into his term...are you? Nor can you even begin to state that anyone could have cleared up that mess in 2 years...right???"
I have written this here before. Clinton added 1.4 Trillion to the Natinoal Debt. What surplus, Jman?
http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16
Fiscal
Year Year
Ending National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion
Plus, Clinton had a Republican Congress in his last term:
http://home.adelphi.edu/sbloch/deficits.html
The Bush Deficit was averaging 500 billion a year until the last year which included the Bailout. There is no excuse for it. Obama did inherit that deficit. But he has not slowed down. The deficits for 2010 and 2011 have equaled 2009. Our debt from the end of Bush's term plus an additional 8 months (Obama's first 8 months) is now 20 percent more, 11.9 Trillion to 14.29 trillion.
The fiscal meltdown was not the fault of Bush and Cheyney. It was a combination of the Housing Redevelopment act, enforced at the end of the Clinton Administration by Janet Reno and Andrew Cuomo, the poor lending standards by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the rest of the loan industry, and the ridiculously low interest rates held by Alan Greenspan. Yes, banks, realtors, agents, and individuals joined in the making of the bubble. But they did not start the fiasco. We are still paying for this mess today. Bush warned about Fannie and Freddie in 2001 and 2003. Unfortunately, Bush rode the housing boom politically and gave up on the warnings. Barney Frank called the warnings exaggerations. McCain sponsored a bill that would have regulated the agencies. Obama did not vote on the bill when he was Senator. See the following youtubes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=related
There is one lesson only. You can't loan money to people who don't have the means to pay it back. You can't force banks to loan to people who don't have the means to pay it back. You can only encourage people to save in order to get the credit to buy and encourage people to learn trades and go to school to afford to buy a house. And you cannot create an artifical market of million dollar homes and allow people who can only afford $200,000 houses to buy them.
Yes, a discussion of Keynes and Friedman is needed. They at opposite ends of the spectrum. Keynes theory says you can manage the deficits. Austrian economics, which what Friedman was, says deficits will be your doom. Friedman was a liberterian by the way, and a fiscal conservative.
How are you going to respond? With intelligent conversation, or more liberal talking points?
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Frankly, I don't respond with anything to anyone acting like a disrespectful jackass...
.When you get my name right, perhaps we will chat some more. I see no reason to continue this conversation.
Enjoy the rest of your one right sided weekend,
Jman47
Frankly, I don't respond with anything to anyone acting like a disrespectful jackass...
When you get my name right, perhaps we will chat some more. I see no reason to continue this conversation.
Enjoy the rest of your one right sided weekend,
Jman47
Sorry. I did get your name wrong. I corrected my mistake, Jman.
Look at the childs face.. Its so obvious that its arnolds offspring !
http://www.x17online.com/celebritie..._exclusive_first_photos_of_arnold_schwarz.php
If maria didnt notice the striking resemblance.. She must feel horrible !
Especially since the average onlooker can literally confirm its his child without a dna test, just from a picture..
On second thought this pic might be photoshopped.. Because in this other pic here, he looks less like arnold..
http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imag...ld-schwarzenegger-mist-19606-1305713834-6.jpg
http://www.x17online.com/celebritie..._exclusive_first_photos_of_arnold_schwarz.php
If maria didnt notice the striking resemblance.. She must feel horrible !
Especially since the average onlooker can literally confirm its his child without a dna test, just from a picture..
On second thought this pic might be photoshopped.. Because in this other pic here, he looks less like arnold..
http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imag...ld-schwarzenegger-mist-19606-1305713834-6.jpg
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http://www.badmouth.net/top-five-republican-gay-sex-scandals/
http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/26/republican-ken-mehlmann-gay?cat=world&type=article
There seems to be a lot more to worry about than the gun-toters/ nra suppprters/And war mongers.. Within the republicans square..
http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/26/republican-ken-mehlmann-gay?cat=world&type=article
There seems to be a lot more to worry about than the gun-toters/ nra suppprters/And war mongers.. Within the republicans square..
His big issue. In fact his only issue, unless you count cursing at the Chinese.
And now, wait for it, the lamestream media reveals:
Whose idea was this? Well, it wasn't Trump's:
Full story here.
This thought of yours made me laugh:
Yeah, it's his fault! Note also that Palin didn't want an answer to the question. Even when she was rooting for Trump, she said she thought Obama was born in Hawaii. In fact as recently as February she said this about the birth certificate business:
That's the sign of a real thinking conservative: she has more thoughts than she can keep track of.
So what did she want? To stir shit, to spread doubts -- that's her level. Long story short: When she saw Trump was getting headlines with birtherism, she jumped in.
Sarah Palin for President.............Wishful thinking. She nis hoping to get the "none of the above" vote.
