Good point, Julia. With the endless number of well reviewed SPs available, why risk booking someone with no reviews and from a site with a bad reputation to boot? I never really understood why some guys like to take that risk?
Beware of backpage
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Not all Backpage girls are scammers. Yes, using Backpage requires extra work and the willingness to take risks. For instance, there was an escort that was charging 100hh or 140h for massage bbbj cim. Her ad only had one or two photos. I took the risk, became a regular. Now, she's highly on demand in her agency. That SP never asked me to pay her upfront since day 1(regardless of my age and skin color). Obviously, SPs on Merb have a reputation and reviews. Therefore you can go see one, without fear of having a bad experience.
I advertise on backpage too. And I dont ask for money upfront, I just either expect it or keep silent and spend an hour hoping I'm not being raped and robbed and pretending I'm not anxious.
I hate when people think "pay after" is an advice while girls are out here getting raped and robbed because we fear being called money-hungry whores if we dare asking to be paid upfront.
I'd rather lose 200$ than my dignity. I'd rather lose 200$ than getting raped. Anytime.
I hate when people think "pay after" is an advice while girls are out here getting raped and robbed because we fear being called money-hungry whores if we dare asking to be paid upfront.
I'd rather lose 200$ than my dignity. I'd rather lose 200$ than getting raped. Anytime.
As you said if you're going to see a non-reviewed girl from BP you gotta be willing to accept there is a risk. Same goes for any business with no reviews. I chose a reputable surgeon for my upcoming breast surgery, but if I decided to take the non-reviewed cheap surgeon route I would still have to pay for at least the implants upfront. If I end up with ugly boobs it's my problem. I can always sue him after but you get the point.
I'm not saying put the money in the girl's hands but definitely put it somewhere she can see.
I'm not saying put the money in the girl's hands but definitely put it somewhere she can see.
And what men are not victims? We see weekly reviews here of poor men getting scammed and many who were threatened with violence. A lot of there girls got backup some yo yo dude just waiting. You cannot expect clients to take all the risk. Reality is this is a dangerous game. You can meet all kind of shady characters. I dealt with many strippers and I always pay after. If she does not like it we can part company. It does not get simpler then that. I got to look out for my best interests first. Believe it or not pay after is the single best advice because she wants the money. She will be motivated to give herself as she promised. But your first sentence is an eye opener. In all the years I booked stripper take outs the girls who were honest and not there to scam me NEVER asked pay upfront. I had some that were there to do a bait and switch and asked to be paid upfront. My first time I did and she scammed me after that never again.
Threats, violence and stealing money is not okay. But this is why reviews exist and I dont think I should have to get scammed because I, too, don't ask for the money, just expect it. I shouldn't have to go through BS like I did in the past just because other girls are stupid.
I do some minimal screening for the gents I meet. If one can't accept the risk, they should do minimal screening when meeting a girl as well. I will NEVER agree with "pay after" when you have reviews available and girls are dealing with rape and scam on a daily basis because they don't ask for money. I've talked to 4 girls it happenned to in the last 2 days.
I do some minimal screening for the gents I meet. If one can't accept the risk, they should do minimal screening when meeting a girl as well. I will NEVER agree with "pay after" when you have reviews available and girls are dealing with rape and scam on a daily basis because they don't ask for money. I've talked to 4 girls it happenned to in the last 2 days.
I agree... But unfortunately that is not the way things are. Right now Backpage and even strippers are very similar to those trashy streetwalkers of the 80's. Majority are scamming and just giving really shitty service. Me myself I will never use Backpage. I work hard for my money so I do not want to waste it on some lazy con artist or risk my safety. Better to stick with the well reviewed agencies on Merb. In a perfect world both client and escort should not be scammed. Client pays the agreed price and escort provides an excellent service as she said she would.
In the case of reviews at least we clients get some security that the given escort is not a con artist but in cases of dealing with Backpage we got nothing. We dunno who she is, the pictures are almost always fake, we do not know her real name, she is probably using a phone app, and lastly but not least there is the feminist sexist Bill C-36 which sees only the women as victims and men as the aggressors. So really at this point the escorts got the upper hand. If your last sentence holds true it seems scams and violence is a regular occurrence. This is proof that Bill C-36 is a failure. Having safe places like incalls is the way to go.
I agree with the pay after mentality as well. Backpage is so full of scammers/dangerous peoples or plain right bad providers who will take the money and do the bare minimum, knowing that you can't do anything about it. Even if the pics are real and the girl is fairly attractive, you have no guaranty of whats gonna result of the encounter. By being ok to be paid after, it gives clients a sense of ease. If for instance you agreed upon GFE, you can see if GFE will be offered even before sex start. If its not, you can always leave and there is no damage. If money was given and taken away... nothing you can do...
I understand the fear a provider may have of not getting paid, and thats why i would personally be ok to SHOW the money if asked to, but would say ill give it at the end. Kinda like a compromise. I know there is risk on both sides, but honestly i fear there is more risk for a clients to be scammed than an escort, as the escort have more "legal protection" than the guy.
But thats me... I don't even know if ill one day "jump the fence" and try my luck on Backpage anyway.
I know its relative. For some guys loosing 200$ is like loosing 10$ for another person. A bit annoying but not a deal breaker. I am not in that case so i am really really carefull.
As for you specifically Julia, you have a big presence on merb not only as advertiser but as forum talker and you have great reviews, you can always point a more nervous client towards that to ease him
I understand the fear a provider may have of not getting paid, and thats why i would personally be ok to SHOW the money if asked to, but would say ill give it at the end. Kinda like a compromise. I know there is risk on both sides, but honestly i fear there is more risk for a clients to be scammed than an escort, as the escort have more "legal protection" than the guy.
But thats me... I don't even know if ill one day "jump the fence" and try my luck on Backpage anyway.
I know its relative. For some guys loosing 200$ is like loosing 10$ for another person. A bit annoying but not a deal breaker. I am not in that case so i am really really carefull.
As for you specifically Julia, you have a big presence on merb not only as advertiser but as forum talker and you have great reviews, you can always point a more nervous client towards that to ease him
Lol yeah i could say it the other way around, with you ill have no problem giving the money in advance if you want
Lol yeah i could say it the other way around, with you ill have no problem giving the money in advance if you want
You two sound so cute (JS + HM)!!!! Now get a room already!!!
Et comment crois-tu que ces filles ont eu des commentaires initialement? C'est grâce a des mecs qui TOFTT et qui prennent le risque pour que toi tu puisses y aller sans souci.
Je trouve qu'il y a énormément d’hypocrites ici. Lorsqu'un mec a une bonne rencontre sur backpage avec une fille n'a jamais été reviewed on l'applaudit et le remercie de la partager. Lorsqu'un mec a une mauvaise expérience/se fait arnaquer par une fille de backpage on lui blâme d'y avoir été a l'aveugle. Je ne parle pas des gens qui ne font aucune recherche sur google images, tineye, etc. Je parle bien des gens qui font leurs devoirs, mais malgré cela se font avoir. J'ai fréquenté plus de 40 filles sur backpage/annonce123 qui n'avaient aucun review sur merb et la plupart de mes rencontres étaient positives car je sais comment faire mes recherches. Certains de mes rencontres n'étaient pas bonnes, mais c'est un risque que je suis prêt a prendre. Je ne fréquente pas les agences, car 90% de mes rencontres sont de 15 minutes (quickies).
Remarquez que ces gens la vous rendent service en partageant leurs expériences afin de vous éviter les mauvais coups, ils ne sont pas obligés de le faire. Donc au lieu de les critiquer, essayez donc de les donner des trucs pour minimiser de se faire niquer et surtout ne soyez pas des hypocrites.
Merci
Je suis d'accord avec ton post. Remarque cependant qu'on en donne beaucoup des trucs ici mais évidamment beaucoup ne fréquente pas ce site ou le découvre apres un certain temps, et apres plusieurs mauvaises rencontres. Jai été un de ceux là
Moi c'est simple je demande toujours un appel téléphonique la premiere fois si aucun review ici. Donc ca en élimine déja beaucoup. Dans les 2 dernieres années j'ai partagé ici 4 ou 5 de ces belles rencontres. Mais j'en ais aussi que je vois encore mais que je peux pas partager ici autre que par PM. La raison principale étant qu'elle se ferait démolir. Le facteur YMMV est multiplié par 15 chez les indy alors tu peux recevoir un service de merde et le client d'apres lui va être aux anges et vice-versa...
Aussi j'ai éliminé backpage il y as longtemps. Juste Hump et AI sont mes références.
Cheers,
En fait quand ces le cas ces surtout des gars qui malgré les red flags decide de continuer. Genre les photos sont fausse... mais vu que la fille est "pas moche" il decide de continuer. Demande de payment en avance. Dit qu'elle va allez porter l'argent a qqu et revenir ou fumer une cigarette et revenir. Ou encore le gars passe devant 2 gros barraqué qui semble chiller dans le couloir mais continue quand meme... Ou simplement le fait de caller a 2:30 am on the spot pour une rencontre et la fille confirme... deja la je crois tu pars avec 2 grosses strikes coté risque.
On est tous d'accord pour dire que la chemistry ces une chose propre entre 2 persones. Il se peux que le gars est une mauvaise rencontre backpage malgré que la fille soit completement honnete et donne un service correct. Dans ces cas la, sa va. Mais ces que ya une drole de trend que les gars on 4 red flags dans le visage et decide de poursuivre pareil, et juste apres "decouvre" merb lol.
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