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Here is an article with a picture of the 17 year-old who is at the center of the current story. I remember an earlier article stating that she really liked the private helicopter pilot training she received that was paid for by the Ephebophilia sufferer. Forgive my skepticism that she falls into the pimped-out teenage runaway category that DayDreamer described in an earlier post with respect to why US laws make an age of consent distinction between sex that is compensated and not compensated.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-picked-sleep-Robert-Maxwell-s-daughter.html

For the scholarly, here is pretty good article as to why the current litigation matters, minus the sensationalism regarding the significant names such as Clinton, Prince Andrew, and Dershowitz.

http://time.com/3658851/prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein/

I just hope some article reminds everyone that Ken Starr helped represent him. That should piss off some conservatives and generate some lawyer jokes.

Patron, read the article you posted. Your argument you present of raising the age of consent for prostitution does not apply here. Roberts, now 30, was 15 when she met Epstein. She said she was in training for being a prostitute for his guests. Roberts said she was 17 when she had sex with Prince Andrew. In Florida, the age of consent for Epstein and Andrews is 18. Never mind the prostitution allegations. It's 18 if you pay or do not pay.

Now 30 and living in California, Miss Roberts was 15 and working as a changing room assistant at a club in Palm Beach, Florida, owned by Mr Trump, when she met Epstein.
They visited Epstein’s mansion nearby where she was said to have been ordered to strip and straddle his naked body. ‘My face was red with embarrassment but I felt under immense pressure to please them,’ she said.
‘The whole time it was going on, they were promising me the world, that I’d travel with Jeffrey on his private jet and have a well-paid profession.’
Epstein paid her $200 for what he called the ‘erotic massage’ and told her to return the next day.
She spent the next four years with Epstein. For three of those years, she was under Florida’s age of consent – 18.
‘Basically, I was training to be a prostitute for him and his friends who shared his interest in young girls,’ she says.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Robert-Maxwell-s-daughter.html#ixzz3OSQhek00
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KEY ALLEGATIONS: WHAT CLAIMS ARE MADE BY TWO JANE DOES
- Jeffrey Epstein forced Jane Doe 3 to have sexual relations with Prince Andrew between 1999 and 2002.
- The girl had sex with the Prince when she 17, which is considered underage in Florida
- They met for sex in London, New York and on Epstein's private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands
- On the final occasion Prince Andrew had sex with her in an 'orgy with numerous other under-aged girls'
- She was told by the Epstein 'to give the Prince whatever he demanded and report back to him on the details of the sexual abuse'
- Robert Maxwell's youngest daughter Ghislaine acted as a 'madame' for the girl and allowed Prince Andrew to have sex with her in her London home, documents claim
- In 2002, Jane Doe 4, described at the time as a 'poor and vulnerable 16-year-old' alleges she was told that she could make $300 by 'giving an old man a massage' in Florida
- Epstein subsequently committed 'sexual acts against Jane Doe 4 on many occasions', according to court documents
Epstein’s close friend Ghislaine Maxwell, the glamorous and well-connected daughter of disgraced tycoon Robert Maxwell, allegedly approached the pretty, blue-eyed teenager and offered her the chance to work for a wealthy ‘gentleman’ who needed a travelling masseuse.
 

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I have a few responses to your statements, Patron.

States raise the age of consent for prostitution and change the classification of the offense from misdemeanor to felony because they want to discourage prostitution related offenses involving teenagers under 18. Most handlers who are not hard core pimps try to comply because of the added penalties that can be added if they are caught. Most parents of teenagers under 18 would not want their child or would they consent to their child to be a prostitute. Remember, parents are still the legal guardians of their children under 18.

The law does not differentiate between underage prostitutes who get their fair share of your money vs. the underage prostitute who gets nothing because theirs a pimp beating her if she doesn't produce for him and she gets food and drugs only compensation. The law says the exchange for sex with money is illegal and paying an girl under 18 is even more illegal, because society doesn't want their minor daughters turning tricks under any circumstances.

Jeffrey Epstein is a very rich sleazeball. Ken Starr is a lawyer. He represents people. I am sure Epstein paid Starr for his legal services in full and paid a good amount. Alan Dershowitz also represented Epstein. Defense lawyers very seldom refuse to defend clients unless they are so busy or the client is so difficult to defend or work for. They believe everyone deserves the best defense or plea possible.
 

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Strictly speaking, the cut-off for being defined as a pedophile is attraction to those 13 and younger.

After reading the thread I'm starting to believe that you're... yeah. Who cares what the law says? If the law said 9 year olds were legal, would you be like "hey it's legal!" :nono:
 

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My mistake. The AP have clarified their story. This was the suit between Epstein and the other lawyer. The federal suit to set aside the non prosecution agreement continues.
 

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Hope I’m wrong but it’s likely that Epstein will get away with a slap on the wrist again. He probably has sex videos of Trump, Clinton & Prince Andrew hidden away in his lawyer’s office.
 

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“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,”
Trump at Iowa in 1996

Used to think that Trump was full of shit back then. Now, I’m not so sure anymore. Many have been fooled by that orange skin and fake hair bumbling buffoon caricature but what lies beneath is an incredibly effective and manipulative political machine.
 

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Used to think that Trump was full of shit back then. Now, I’m not so sure anymore. Many have been fooled by that orange skin and fake hair bumbling buffoon caricature but what lies beneath is an incredibly effective and manipulative political machine.
The first time, I think it had more to do with who he was running against. When I see the Socialists running against him, I'll vote for him again.
 

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Yep effective and manipulative... Just like Poutine...

Well, the Poutine-in-chief has utterly defeated the entire Republican leadership. Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Jeff Flake, Bob Corker r in political exile. Others like Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, Kevin McCarthy have become lapdogs who look away while the Poutine-in-chief continues to piss on the grave of John McCain.

Hitler & Stalin were grossly underestimated before their rise to power. Be afraid, be very afraid.
 
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