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metoo4

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Korbel said:
Hello Metoo4,

So this would now include JB after the very poor "generalization" in his last post.

Cheers,

Korbel

Not really! He said "...it has been my experience...". This is a reflexion on what he know and he's not trying to say it applies to everybody. Remove the "...it has been my experience..." part of the sentence and it's a totally different ball game.
 

JustBob

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So, according to the (it seems) easily offended Korbel, I have:

1. Made a poor and/or unintelligent generalization about Americans. Or perhaps I'm just ignorant and jumped to conclusions because of "poor sampling".

2. Attacked and used beautydigger in order to mischaracterize an entire nation.

So, without further ado, I will now prove to you that these accusations are false. Let us examine what I said:

Plus, Americans need to learn that other nations, who hold different values and principles, do not necessarily hate free speech when they don't display the same hard-on for said free speech than Americans do.

America was founded on the principles of "individual liberties and freedoms" and therefore, Americans tend to give more importance to free (individual) speech than people from social democracies (like Canada and much of Europe) who believe that indivual rights should be balanced against collective rights. This is the reason, for example, why Americans are overwhelmingly against hate speech laws. So, because of this "hard-on" Americans have with regard to free speech, they often can't fathom (either thru ignorance or because they tend to see the rest of the world thru the prism of their own values and principles (or both) ) why other nations would allow such attacks on freedom of speech.

Is this a generalization? Of course. Is it unintelligent or false or based on "poor sampling"? Absolutely not. Now one might prefer the second version to the first, more blunt version, but this woudn't change the fact that the exact same point is made in both, regardless of language used.

Furthermore, it has been my experience that those who keep brandishing the sacred free speech icon are invariably people with nothing intelligent to say. So maybe in their case it should be renamed "Freedom of lame speech".

Please note that one, this is a different paragraph, and two, the word "Americans" is nowhere to be found in said paragraph. So I, from experience, find this point to be generally true regardless of country of origin. Now do Americans tend to display said behavior more frequently than people who, for example, live in social democracies? Of course, simply because, once again, they tend to value individual free speech more than others do.

The defense rests. :)
 
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JustBob

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Korbel said:
Hey JB,

What defense! Everything you gave is opinion, your own. You call it a defense to repeat your slanderous balthering. You make me laugh ...bwahahahahaha. :D Face it, you were angry with Beautydigger and instead of dealing with HIM like man you resorted to stereotyping Americans. How poor and cowardly. Do you have to be reminded your personal opinion proves nothing.

And I am not making any reference to "free speech". I am challenging you credibility, honor, and maturity.

Get real,

Korbel

I see. Let the record show that the prosecution has completely failed to point out where or how I was wrong, misguided or stereotyping, or to offer any counter-arguments or opinions of his own, choosing instead to engage in two of the most common anti-debating tactics known to man, i.e. one, attack the messenger and not the message, and two, pretend he's psychic and knows what goes on in my head, and put words in my mouth.

The defense rests (again).

P.S. If you're going to issue a challenge against my credibility, honor, and maturity with posts like that one, you will not only fail miserably, but it will be your own credibility and maturity that will come into question. And people might conclude that, as a typical ignorant American, you don't even know the fundamental differences between core American values and those of social democracies like Canada. Now surely you woudn't want that, now would you? :)
 
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beautydigger

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Obviously, JustBob has no problem with being forced to obey sharia law in the balance of collective rights, it is spreading into our northern border cities and I have a right to be alarmed. Now from JB wisdom I understand Canada does not give a shit just like Mexico does not give a shit about illegals.
 

JustBob

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beautydigger said:
Obviously, JustBob has no problem with being forced to obey sharia law in the balance of collective rights, it is spreading into our northern border cities and I have a right to be alarmed. Now from JB wisdom I understand Canada does not give a shit just like Mexico does not give a shit about illegals.

Ladies and gentlemen, looks like we have ourselves another psychic...

And for the record both Ontario and Quebec have struck down attempts to install Sharia Law arbitration tribunals. Ontario went one step further, repelling the 1991 (provincial) "Arbitration Act" which had, until 2005, allowed Jews, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mennonites, and aboriginals, among others, to make use of arbitration to settle family law questions without using Ontario's court system.

So please stop with your silly black or white (and uninformed) arguments.
 
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Techman

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beautydigger said:
Obviously, JustBob has no problem with being forced to obey sharia law in the balance of collective rights, it is spreading into our northern border cities and I have a right to be alarmed. Now from JB wisdom I understand Canada does not give a shit just like Mexico does not give a shit about illegals.

There are illegals in Mexico???
 

JustBob

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Haaaa, more of the same and as I expected, not even a glimpse of an intelligent opinion or counter-argument. Thanks for yet another example of a post filled with "maturity, honor and integrity". I too was going to praise your consistency and achievement, but aside from a knack (note the irony) for slandering and attacking others personnally, I don't see anything else I could congratulate you for...

And of course you're done, since you never even got started.
 

korbel

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JustBob said:
And of course you're done, since you never even got started.
LOL JB,

Sorry, I wasn't going to reply again, but I wanted to thank you for the laugh your 5-year-old level retort brought. :D:D:D Is this your best shot??? WOW! Hey how about this JB...you started it...no you did... no you did...no you did...no you did. Oops, you didn't have your best lines copyrighted did you...lol.

Bwahahahahahahaha,

Korbel
 
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Techman

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I hope you guys realize that beautydigger is just reading this thread and laughing his ass off. He puts in a little comment here and there and just sits back and watches the show. He didn't even put his own opinion in the post he started the thread with, he just posted a link to someone else's. And then we start posting and jumping all over each other for his amusement.

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm through posting in this thread. Let him get his cheap thrills somewhere else.

Techman
 

voyageur11

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Techman said:
I hope you guys realize that beautydigger is just reading this thread and laughing his ass off. He puts in a little comment here and there and just sits back and watches the show. He didn't even put his own opinion in the post he started the thread with, he just posted a link to someone else's. And then we start posting and jumping all over each other for his amusement.

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm through posting in this thread. Let him get his cheap thrills somewhere else.

Techman
And now you know why bd was name shit disturber by mod 7
 

beautydigger

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Techman said:
But seriously...here we have a poster who is one of the most misogynist posters in merb history complaining about free speech?
For those with an awareness greater than a rock: Hobbying is a misogynist activity. But techno has not yet discovered this. He is also wrong about me sitting back and laughing my ass off about this thread. He was unable to digest the post about my being concerned about fascism spreading from Canada to the US. He also does not understand what an illegal alien is. He is like JB and I don’t often agree with Korbel, but this time I do. Techno also has a habit of attacking me, but I can take it, and the only thing I am laughing my ass off about is his lack of understanding anything.
Remember, this was the guy who recomended Vista when it first came out.:rolleyes:
 

beautydigger

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JustBob said:
Ladies and gentlemen, looks like we have ourselves another psychic...
Speaking of psychics, didn’t the Canadian Child Protective services bust a mother on the advice of a psychic? This correlates with my concern about fascism in your country. I wish most of you knew how to put 2 and 2 together so I don’t have to keep explaining every little idea.

Now who is uninformed?:rolleyes:
So why are you putting me down for using so called psychic opinions in Canada?
 
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JustBob

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Thanks for informing me that psychics are spreading fascism in Canada. I'll go put my tin foil hat on in case aliens are involved too. :eek:
 

beautydigger

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JustBob said:
Thanks for informing me that psychics are spreading fascism in Canada. I'll go put my tin foil hat on in case aliens are involved too. :eek:
2 + 2. This one is so easy I won’t even bother to explain. I’ll just let JB look like what he is.

Oh, look!! JustBob has another fan. JH Fan is changing to JB Fan. Birds of a feather!
 
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JH Fan

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Oh ! I'm impressed ...fan...feathers. mmm

How about "Paris Hilton is known as the sexiest women in the world."
"I am always polite..."

"There is an international elaborate cult network which controls politics, information and culture..."

"Proper spelling and grammar is a sign of an effeminate male"
"Personally I hope the economy does crash"

Ok...lets try this "Dude, do you realize how brainwashed you are? "
 

JH Fan

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Hey Beautydigger...wants to impress people ?
How about telling us what rank is Canada in the worldwide press freedom index...?

Do you know anything about IFEX ?

The conclusion of this thread should only be :
Canada and the US are trying to align their policy a little bit more in order to "warm" relations between the two countries whether you like it or not.
 

beautydigger

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Korbel said:
Hey Beautydigger,

Did you say that? Well, I'll take my pink laced undies over your 430 lbs head to toe leather-covered sweating hairy male spanker/lover with diarrhea issues any day...bwahahahahaha.

Open widest,

Korbel
Yes, I did say that. But was said in context to blogging on a site that does not have a spell checker. I am not out to impress anyone here with my spelling when anyone with a clue knows the dumbest bastard alive can use a spell checker and look smart. Maybe you can ask your friend Oli for his 2 cents on the subject.
 

beautydigger

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JH Fan said:
Hey Beautydigger...wants to impress people ?
How about telling us what rank is Canada in the worldwide press freedom index...?
O.K. So Canada is known throughout the world as being the country with the most freedom.:rolleyes: Didn’t your love interest just explain to you the difference between freedom in Canada and the US in an earlier post? I believe it had something to do with collectivism or communism, how I see it.
 
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