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Everyone seemed to believe that there was some political motive behind this shooting, but it seems possible the shooter was at least partly motivated by simple jealousy of Kirk, who was getting attention that he was not getting.
 
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Now if the shooter was a MAGA/Trump supporter wouldn’t that be interesting.

Also the vid where he just came back down from that roof top is IMPRESSIVE. Dude got some Parkour knowledge.

This guy I can say is mince meat. He needs to be in solitary confinement away from general population when locked up.
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He apparently dressed up like he's sitting on Trump's shoulders for Halloween. IDK if that makes him a fan or a hater.
Was in 2017 though. A lot can change in 8 years.
 

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Doh!

Shooter’s parents are MAGA and had been raising their children in strong gun culture.

His father is a retired sheriff, Mormon and wears American patriotic clothing. If that is “important” to you.

The father/family turned him in. Not the FBI mind you and initially the FBI got the wrong person proclaiming they got the shooter when they didn’t.
 
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Everyone seemed to believe that there was some political motive behind this shooting, but it seems possible the shooter was at least partly motivated by simple jealousy of Kirk, who was getting attention that he was not getting.
We would know as time goes on I guess.
 

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His father is a retired sheriff, Mormon and wears American patriotic clothing. If that is “important” to you.
60% of the population of Utah is Mormon. If American history is important to anyone in this thread, and I can tell from past posts that it is totally unimportant and a total nonfactor in anything happening now, watch American Primeval on Netflix and you will learn a little bit about the development of Utah and how Mormon militias played a role in that development.
 
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It's funny, certain hard core rights were so fast to tell the Democrats "YOU OWN THIS" without any evidence, suspect, etc, just to create more hate and cause the blame game.

And voila, the irony in all this is so wild.


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It's funny, certain hard core rights were so fast to tell the Democrats "YOU OWN THIS" without any evidence, suspect, etc, just to create more hate and cause the blame game.

And voila, the irony in all this is so wild.


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That are some BIG guns for a kid.

The gun culture when I grew up was about Super Soakers and a BB gun.
 
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Got curious and checked out facebook and there are clips. Lots of them and some very close up. GRUESOME. Look so much like a professional hit too.
 

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Got curious and checked out facebook and there are clips. Lots of them and some very close up. GRUESOME. Look so much like a professional hit too.

What differs between a professional hit VS a proper hunter's kill shot ?

I doubt the shooter was aiming for the neck, and probably missed the heart or head. But ya, pretty intense to see when the aorta is hit how fast head blood empties out.
 

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What differs between a professional hit VS a proper hunter's kill shot ?

I doubt the shooter was aiming for the neck, and probably missed the heart or head. But ya, pretty intense to see when the aorta is hit how fast head blood empties out.
Well compared to the attempts at Trump this one was just one shot and the target was down. Plus the way the shooter just easily climbed down the building. That was why I thought and stated it has a very professional feel to it. Yet now knowing more about the shooter guess not. This guy had some practice and training.
 
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Well compared to the attempts at Trump this one was just one shot and the target was down. Plus the way the shooter just easily climbed down the building. That was why I thought and stated it has a very professional feel to hit. Yet now knowing more about the shooter guess not. This guy had some practice and training.
Sometimes it what they want us to believe. Face value is not always that
 

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Sometimes it what they want us to believe. Face value is not always that
Now the important matter to focus on is the aftermath and whats comes going forward.

For one being out riding public transportation be mindful of your surroundings and be very aware. Stay vigilant with all that is around you.
 

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Nothing about him and he’s been captured is indicative of professional. In fact especially the short distance and caliber choice. There are far greater means of disinformation that could have and would have been enacted. Dig into some spec-op non fiction start in Vietnam era to present and you can get a better sense of capabilities and distinction
Latest report the father was aware and went with his 22yr old son to turn himself in to US marshal.
Got curious and checked out facebook and there are clips. Lots of them and some very close up. GRUESOME. Look so much like a professional hit too.
lol as if bullet vs flesh is amateur vs pro in difference what a wild statement.
 

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Yea but he wanted to protect the second amendment!
Maybe I lack empathy for a guy that was advocating pro guns on the cost of kids being killed in schools? So your argument about him having kids I take that with a grain of salt.
Charlie Kirk regarding children dying in school shootings
“I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.”

People are simply showing the same amount of empathy that Kirk showed to children, his political opponents and anyone that "suffers" from empathy.

Soooooo,

I actually looked into these quotes (after a grueling day of oral labor o_O) because the lefties are losing their minds over this, comme de fait - I knew it was a half story taken out of context, lmao. ('Tis what many leftists do: rely only on their biased sources and media outlets to feed them their bullshit narrative.)

Let’s actually quote him properly instead of continuing to do what mainstream media does so well :) Twisting / mixing up words and ignoring context that only pushes their narrative.

This quote that everyone is posting on the internet about Charlie Kirk talking about the 2nd Amendment and shootings - claiming that because of what he said he somehow "deserved what happened to him" — is a complete fabrication.

If you actually listen to what he said, he was talking about school shootings and children, and how they will continue to be inevitable because wicked people will do evil things. "You can put as many gun laws as you want on law-abiding citizens, and people will follow them, but it doesn’t matter because criminals will do whatever the hell they want to inflict evil on innocent people".

If you actually listen to what he said, he wanted to ask the question: “Why do we protect our sporting events, our movie stars, Hollywood elites, or banks with armed guards and firearms to protect our money, but we can’t protect our children?”

THAT’S what Charlie Kirk was saying. For some of you online to claim that he said deaths are inevitable so we can have our 2nd Amendment, and therefore he “died by the sword which he lived by,” is completely wrong. I don’t think he would have wanted his death to be used to push insane gun laws and restrictions on law-abiding citizens.

Because if you see how he died - by a psycho who did something evil and didn’t follow the law - you can also see the truth: a good person with a firearm could stop a bad person with a firearm every time.

All this just goes to show how people are trapped in a never-ending loop of headlines, spoon-fed by a cult, and convinced they’re informed lol.
 
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Soooooo,

I actually looked into these quotes (after a grueling day of oral labor o_O) because the lefties are losing their minds over this, comme de fait - I knew it was a half story taken out of context, lmao. ('Tis what many leftists do: rely only on their biased sources and media outlets to feed them their bullshit narrative.)

Let’s actually quote him properly instead of continuing to do what mainstream media does so well :) Twisting / mixing up words and ignoring context that only pushes their narrative.

This quote that everyone is posting on the internet about Charlie Kirk talking about the 2nd Amendment and shootings - claiming that because of what he said he somehow "deserved what happened to him" — is a complete fabrication.

If you actually listen to what he said, he was talking about school shootings and children, and how they will continue to be inevitable because wicked people will do evil things. "You can put as many gun laws as you want on law-abiding citizens, and people will follow them, but it doesn’t matter because criminals will do whatever the hell they want to inflict evil on innocent people".

If you actually listen to what he said, he wanted to ask the question: “Why do we protect our sporting events, our movie stars, Hollywood elites, or banks with armed guards and firearms to protect our money, but we can’t protect our children?”

THAT’S what Charlie Kirk was saying. For some of you online to claim that he said deaths are inevitable so we can have our 2nd Amendment, and therefore he “died by the sword which he lived by,” is completely wrong. I don’t think he would have wanted his death to be used to push insane gun laws and restrictions on law-abiding citizens.

Because if you see how he died - by a psycho who did something evil and didn’t follow the law - you can also see the truth: a good person with a firearm could stop a bad person with a firearm every time.

All this just goes to show how people are trapped in a never-ending loop of headlines, spoon-fed by a cult, and convinced they’re informed lol.
Unless you are claiming this is wrong that is exactly what hé is saying. Again not saying by any means that hé desserves what happened to him, nobody should be killed for their opinions whether you agrée with them or not. But that was still his opinion, can’t deny it.

 
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lol as if bullet vs flesh is amateur vs pro in difference what a wild statement.
Yeah wild. You know what is even more wild? Today I realized I can save a good chunk of money by switching my car insurance to GEICO.

Talk about -EV. LOL
 

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Unless you are claiming this is wrong that is exactly what hé is saying. Again not saying by any means that hé desserves what happened to him, nobody should be killed for their opinions whether you agrée with them or not. But that was still his opinion, can’t deny it.

This is exactly the problem. That 20-second clip is a classic case of cherry-picking to push a narrative. Without the full discussion, it’s impossible to see what he was actually addressing, the nuance, or the examples he gave.

Here ya go:

 
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