I have read that the U.S. could be eliminated from advancing in the WBC if Mexico beats Canada 1-0, 2-0 or 2-1 tonight.
Cuba in the World Baseball Classic - Let Them Play!
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Because after 2 referendum they decided to remain a commonwealth and not to become a statefemaleluver2 said:
Cuban Officials Furious About Anti-Casto Sign, Free Speech at WBC
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/03/10/wbc.cuba.ap/index.html?cnn=yes
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/03/10/wbc.cuba.ap/index.html?cnn=yes
USA 17, South Africa 0
Fifth Inning Update! The Canada debacle woke the boys up!
If the score stays the same, the game will be stopped in the 7th inning due to the 10 run mercy rule.
Ken Griffey Jr.: 4-4, 2 home runs, 7 RBIs, through 5
Clemens: 4 IP, 1 hit, 6 Ks
Fifth Inning Update! The Canada debacle woke the boys up!
If the score stays the same, the game will be stopped in the 7th inning due to the 10 run mercy rule.
Ken Griffey Jr.: 4-4, 2 home runs, 7 RBIs, through 5
Clemens: 4 IP, 1 hit, 6 Ks
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Most hated man in baseball wants to join Team USA
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2362723
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2362723
Final Score:
USA 17, South Africa 0
Mercy Rule after 5 innings
In case you are wondering, yes, this was the same South Africa team that Canada struggled to beat and which scored 8 runs off the brilliant
Canadian pitchintg staff.
Bring on Cuba!!!!!
USA 17, South Africa 0
Mercy Rule after 5 innings
In case you are wondering, yes, this was the same South Africa team that Canada struggled to beat and which scored 8 runs off the brilliant
Canadian pitchintg staff.Bring on Cuba!!!!!
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Doc Holliday said:
Seeing how Canada was eliminated and will not be advancing to the second round, it will not happen. Canada was sent home by Mexico last night.
I wouldn't call this a "Miracle on Turf", I would call it what is: "Going home after first round elimination."
USA 4 Japan 3
Lidge struck out feared Japanese HR hitter Tempura with bases loaded top of 9th. Then, A-Rod dramatically won the game with a 2 out bases loaded single in the bottom of 9th, off hard throwing Japanese closer Fujikowa. Previously Jeter took one in the back from the wild Fujikowa.
USA also got 2 run HR from Derrek Lee who has 3 HRs in the WBC.
Controversy in the 8th as a Japanese base runner was called out for tagging up and leaving third early. The Japanese team was so upset by the call, they did not want to take the field in the 9th, but Manager Sadaharu Oh ordered them to do so.
Lidge struck out feared Japanese HR hitter Tempura with bases loaded top of 9th. Then, A-Rod dramatically won the game with a 2 out bases loaded single in the bottom of 9th, off hard throwing Japanese closer Fujikowa. Previously Jeter took one in the back from the wild Fujikowa.
USA also got 2 run HR from Derrek Lee who has 3 HRs in the WBC.
Controversy in the 8th as a Japanese base runner was called out for tagging up and leaving third early. The Japanese team was so upset by the call, they did not want to take the field in the 9th, but Manager Sadaharu Oh ordered them to do so.
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EagerBeaver said:
And they had a right to be pissed. The ump blew that call! USA escapes with a little luck from the boys in blue today.
EagerBeaver said:
He also struck out with the go ahead run on 3rd base in the bottom of the 8th!
The Cubans are coming!
Dust off your Salsa shoes EagerBeaver the Cubans are coming to San Diego! Cuba beat Puerto Rico 4-3 last night to advance, I really like the style of the Cuban game - gritty small ball.
Will Team USA join them in the next round???
Dust off your Salsa shoes EagerBeaver the Cubans are coming to San Diego! Cuba beat Puerto Rico 4-3 last night to advance, I really like the style of the Cuban game - gritty small ball.
Will Team USA join them in the next round???
femaleluver2 said:
I agree with you. Even though i'm cheering for every team against the States in this tournament, i'm kind of glad that they'll advance. It will make for a much better tournament with them than without. I'm glad to see Venezuela out of it. Gustavo Chacin can finally go to spring training with my beloved Jays. For some strange reason, he was barely used in the tournament. They'd make him pitch to one guy and then pull him. The team had promised the Jays that he'd see a lot of work and be a starting pitcher. Now, unless he gets an abundance of work during what remains of spring training, he might be downgraded to being the team's 5th starter in favor of Kelly Downs. He just ain't ready to start the season since he barely pitched over the last 2 weeks.
Well Team USA took a page from the Men's Canadian Olympic Hockey Teams book last night loosing to Mexico and now out of the WBC.
I'm really looking forward to Cuba vs Dom. Republic should be a great game - I love the passion the Latin players and fans bring to the game. I must admit I am a little disappointed that the US is out though, I would think that this is the end of Roger Clemens carrier - One of my favorite pitchers (right after Pedro & Fernando) Now if I could just erase the memory of him in a Blue Jay uniform....
I'm really looking forward to Cuba vs Dom. Republic should be a great game - I love the passion the Latin players and fans bring to the game. I must admit I am a little disappointed that the US is out though, I would think that this is the end of Roger Clemens carrier - One of my favorite pitchers (right after Pedro & Fernando) Now if I could just erase the memory of him in a Blue Jay uniform....
Focus on the game, US's downfall
Its a fitting end for the USA to go out early. After the debacle in the Japan game, the seeming fixing of the schedule so we didn't have to play any of the Carribean teams, the fact that our government tried to keep Cuba out, having the tournament on our own soil, all the "experts" saying we were the team to beat(boy were they right, and did we ever get beat), all the bloated payroll figures of the US players and their dismal performances, we simply did not deserve to go on to the finals.
Like in Basketball we have suddenly been forced to deal with the ugly realization that we are not as dominant as so many of us thought. The lesson to be learned is that it is the focus on the game, rather than on the money, that we see displayed by other countries and their athletes which has allowed them to quietly catch, and then overtake us in sports. So long USA, better try harder next time.
Its a fitting end for the USA to go out early. After the debacle in the Japan game, the seeming fixing of the schedule so we didn't have to play any of the Carribean teams, the fact that our government tried to keep Cuba out, having the tournament on our own soil, all the "experts" saying we were the team to beat(boy were they right, and did we ever get beat), all the bloated payroll figures of the US players and their dismal performances, we simply did not deserve to go on to the finals.
Like in Basketball we have suddenly been forced to deal with the ugly realization that we are not as dominant as so many of us thought. The lesson to be learned is that it is the focus on the game, rather than on the money, that we see displayed by other countries and their athletes which has allowed them to quietly catch, and then overtake us in sports. So long USA, better try harder next time.
Cuba v. Japan for the championship!
Cuba will play Japan Monday night for the WBC championship.
I saw some of Cuba's 3-1 win over the Dominican Republican and was very impressed by the Cuban team. The Cubans went with their two best pitchers, supporting regnaD's theory that everyone believes that the winner of the USA non-latin half of the draw is dogshit (we'll see what Ichiro and Japan have to say about that theory on Monday). The Cuban closer (whom I understand to be a starter but he finished the game) was a big righthander sort of built like Jose Contreras who was throwing some of the nastiest shit I have ever seen. He struck out Alfonso Soriano with a pitch that was so nasty it really looked unfair. I forget the guy's name but he would be a star on any major league team. I also liked a bunch of the Cuban position players. There is a lot of major league talent on that Cuban team, and it is a shame that it is being wasted, in the sense that nobody except those in Cuba get to see these guys play.
I see that Japan beat South Korea 6-0 after B.K. Kim gave up yet another game winning homer. Poor guy has just never been the same after what the Yankees did to him in the 2001 World Series. Ichiro had 3 hits for the Japanese team which will be clear underdogs to Cuba tomorrow night. Japan does have a chance because Cuba used their 2 best pitchers against the Dominicans, but I assume what is behind the top 2 guys is not dogshit.
Cuba will play Japan Monday night for the WBC championship.
I saw some of Cuba's 3-1 win over the Dominican Republican and was very impressed by the Cuban team. The Cubans went with their two best pitchers, supporting regnaD's theory that everyone believes that the winner of the USA non-latin half of the draw is dogshit (we'll see what Ichiro and Japan have to say about that theory on Monday). The Cuban closer (whom I understand to be a starter but he finished the game) was a big righthander sort of built like Jose Contreras who was throwing some of the nastiest shit I have ever seen. He struck out Alfonso Soriano with a pitch that was so nasty it really looked unfair. I forget the guy's name but he would be a star on any major league team. I also liked a bunch of the Cuban position players. There is a lot of major league talent on that Cuban team, and it is a shame that it is being wasted, in the sense that nobody except those in Cuba get to see these guys play.
I see that Japan beat South Korea 6-0 after B.K. Kim gave up yet another game winning homer. Poor guy has just never been the same after what the Yankees did to him in the 2001 World Series. Ichiro had 3 hits for the Japanese team which will be clear underdogs to Cuba tomorrow night. Japan does have a chance because Cuba used their 2 best pitchers against the Dominicans, but I assume what is behind the top 2 guys is not dogshit.
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Cuba is one of the most beautiful countries in the Caribbean affordable, clean and probably the safest country for a tourist I have ever been to - approx. 10000000 X safer than New York City for example.
I would like to encourage everyone to vacation in Cuba! You can see some of the greatest baseball in the world being played and none of those greedy millionaire athletes everyone is always complaining about.
I watched the second round game Cuba vs Puerto Rico, and I was actually embarassed listening to the anti-Cuba rhetoric being spewed out over the air waves by the ESPN2 feed.
EagerBeaver, Cuban baseball is not being wasted the "shame" is that your gov't won't allow you to see it.
My prediction for the WBC Final - Cuba 5 Japan 1
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spin said:
I have to agree with you on that one. However, Americans are not allowed to travel to Cuba. A few years ago, a Canadian friend of mine had driven to Florida while on vacation. On the way down, he had stopped in Charlotte, NC, hoping to meet his hero, the late NASCAR legend Dale Earnhardt, who supposedly owed a few GM car dealerships in the area. When he arrived in Miami, he decided he'd want to spend a week in Cuba. He grabbed his bags and entered the airport terminal. When he told the clerk at the counter that he wanted a return ticket to Cuba, she gasped and stared at him just like she had just seen the ghost of John Lennon. "Sir, are you serious or are you kidding me?", she asked. "You cannot fly to Cuba from anywhere in the United States!" "Are you serious? Why", my friend asked. "Because it's a communist country and there is a US embargo against that country", she replied. My buddy couldn't believe what he heard and flew to Toronto, and then flew to the Holguin/Havana area. He didn't know much about Cuba...he should have went to Varadero, which is superb. He spent a week there...discovered the hobby through people he met on the beach, and flew back to Canada a week later. Absolutely loved it and swore to himself he'd return the following year. Then, from Toronto, he flew to Miami and retrieved his car, then visited various sites around Florida and drove back home.
Maybe next year, i'll go spend a week or two in Cuba to get away from the cold February weather. Maybe i'll ask a Mtl lady to come, who knows. I'll be more than happy to pay for her expenses since there's no way in hell you'll catch me hobbying in that country! A large portion of sps in that country happen to be high end professionals, by the way. A buddy of mine met a female doctor this way....she needed to sell her body in order to pay back the government for the money they lent her to go to school. Not sure how true this is, but she told my buddy that her earnings as a doctor equalled around $20 US per month. Wow!
Yes, it's too bad us baseball fans aren't able to watch these great Cuban baseball players practice their skills on our North American ballparks. The only ones we get to see are the defectors....Canseco, the Hernandez brothers, Contreras, etc. Wasn't the great Orlando Cepeda from Cuba? However, we are also missing out on the boxers. Cuba has produced great boxers such as Theophilo Stevenson through the last 5 decades. Yet, we only get to see them at the Olympics every 4 years.
Doc,
Education (along with healthcare) is free of charge to all Cubans. I know Americans can't go there, well I believe technically they can, but no US Airline will fly there. FEDEX won't even go!
Thats why I want to encourage everyone to vacation in Cuba, to spite the American gov't and their ridiculous, out dated foriegn policy. It's not like they do businees with Russia or China
By the way, what a classy and refreshing statement by the Dominican manager:
"We really went at it hard like professionals," Dominican manager Manny Acta said. "They deserve the credit. I'd rather give them credit than make excuses."
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spin said:
Well, Russia is democratic now, so they're out of the equation. You're right about China, though. I'd also add Saudi Arabia to the mix...one of the worse countries on the planet in terms of civil rights violations, a country where public beheadings are the norm and not the exception. When i'd hear him and Rummy state to the media that the terrorists in Iraq or Pakistan were a bunch of animals for beheading a hostage....i'd silently be saying: "So what about Saudi Arabia, you fucking asshole? Are they that much better?" It's funny that you often hear Bush blasting other countries that he doesn't like for this (civil rights violations), but never do you hear him say anything bad about the goddamn Saudi Royal family. I hope they get toppled one day! They're all filthy rich with oil revenues while the rest of their countrymen are living in poverty and oppression.
Back to baseball: i'm pulling for Cuba just because Bush and his bushies didn't want them in the tournament.
Any interesting titles for this game?
Uninvited(almost) Communists vs. Failing Capitalists?
We make cigars vs. We make cars?
You just know Bush is praying for Japan because if Cuba wins Fidel will hold a huge rally during which he will lambast the POTUS for trying to keep them out of the games. Nothing against Japan but I would love to see that black eye on George.
Uninvited(almost) Communists vs. Failing Capitalists?
We make cigars vs. We make cars?
You just know Bush is praying for Japan because if Cuba wins Fidel will hold a huge rally during which he will lambast the POTUS for trying to keep them out of the games. Nothing against Japan but I would love to see that black eye on George.
