Cuckolding & Voyeurism

[Doc Holliday]

Are cuckolding & voyeurism being offered these days?

Recently a former indy has been contemplating coming out of retirement & asked for my input on many things including what types of services she could offer. One that came to mind was cuckolding & voyeurism since i rarely see it offered around here. About 8 years ago i was at a party & speaking with a very popular indy who was considering offering it & i was curious about what she had in mind. She explained that she had yet to try it but it would include clients paying to either watch her having sex with another man or to be in the next room listening to them. The person she’d have sex with could either be a fuck buddy or a client. She would charge the cuckold/voyeur half the usual rate since he would not be an active participant. I told her i thought it was a great idea & i’d be interested in trying it out. She replied she was hoping to have this reaction & why she had approached me.

So since the former indy was considering un-retiring I figured offering this ‘service’ could attract more interest towards her. Since she wasn’t sure if she’d be offering incall or outcall i told her it would be more convenient if it was incall however it could still be possible in outcall if one of the two gentlemen was okay allowing another gentleman into his room & she could tell her cuckold/voyeur client to meet her at a certain place or hotel at a set time or vice-versa. I also told her she could also offer this service to female clients. I told her it could work since i had already tried it in the past & i found it different but actually quite fun.

Would this type of service interest you if it was on the table?

 

[Doc Holliday]

This isn't really my thing, but would this not only work if at least 2 of the 3 participants know each other?
I feel this is destined for disaster if 3 random people attempt it without knowing each other.

Possibly. But i suppose the final decision would be the provider’s. Personally i feel that the sp should already know one of the two guys or girl. When i tried it the girl was with a regular. I had never been with her so i wanted to try the voyeur/cuckold scenario first. I had never tried this & i figured this way i could have an idea if the girl & I would be compatible. However the other guy realized then that being watched by another guy wasn’t his thing & it made him nervous. She tried her best to get him hard but it wasn’t working. So although this wasn’t in the plans she suggested we swap places. He became the voyeur & I unexpectedly became the fucker. For me it turned out to be a great experience & the guy admitted that he enjoyed being the voyeur more than he had imagined. I had anticipated repeating the experience but unfortunately the girl moved away soon after.

 

[LC18]

Would this type of service interest you if it was on the table?

I’ve only been asked twice since I’ve started escorting in 2016. So I wouldn’t say it’s extremely popular to the point of advertising it and/or finding a regular duo partner.

 

[LC18]

Why don’t you try going to a swinger club with a SP?

 

[curly]

I'm sure many of us have experienced being deeply attracted to a girl only to see her go fuck the local bad boy...

Now, paying a pretty woman I could be having sex with only to have sex in front of me with someone else while doing nothing?

Nope... not a thing for me!

 

[Jordd]

Possibly. But i suppose the final decision would be the provider’s. Personally i feel that the sp should already know one of the two guys or girl. When i tried it the girl was with a regular. I had never been with her so i wanted to try the voyeur/cuckold scenario first. I had never tried this & i figured this way i could have an idea if the girl & I would be compatible. However the other guy realized then that being watched by another guy wasn’t his thing & it made him nervous. She tried her best to get him hard but it wasn’t working. So although this wasn’t in the plans she suggested we swap places. He became the voyeur & I unexpectedly became the fucker. For me it turned out to be a great experience & the guy admitted that he enjoyed being the voyeur more than he had imagined. I had anticipated repeating the experience but unfortunately the girl moved away soon after.

You became the fucker for half price!! No wonder you like the idea! Hahaha
You even got to experience both scenarios at the same time! Win win

 

[Doc Holliday]

Why don’t you try going to a swinger club with a SP?

I have. But some sp i went with didn’t like the experience & weren’t interested in going back stating it wasn’t their thing. But i was asking for someone else wondering if there’d be an interest in it if she included it on her list of services on her upcoming website. I thought it could be popular however maybe i’m just in the minority.

I also thought maybe women could be interested in hiring her to watch her servicing their male friends/bf/husbamd but maybe that’s only a guy thing.

 

[Doc Holliday]

You became the fucker for half price!! No wonder you like the idea! Hahaha
You even got to experience both scenarios at the same time! Win win

Not really. I gave the gentleman the portion he had paid for so he ended up only paying the voyeur/cuckold fee. I didn’t have to but felt it was the right thing to do since i got my money’s worth & more.

 

[LC18]

But some sp i went with didn’t like the experience & weren’t interested in going back stating it wasn’t their thing.

It definitely isn’t for everyone. I like going because that’s the only place it really feels safe to have sex in front of other people. I love Club L because the windows really make it interesting. You can see people looking at you and commenting but you can’t hear what they’re saying unless you invite them in.

 

[Doc Holliday]

It definitely isn’t for everyone. I like going because that’s the only place it really feels safe to have sex in front of other people. I love Club L because the windows really make it interesting. You can see people looking at you and commenting but you can’t hear what they’re saying unless you invite them in.

A few years ago i was with an sp that i had seen several times over the years & she was asking me about a private gb event i had attended a few weeks or months earlier. I told her that this particular one involved about 7-8 participants in a downtown suite including a few male voyeurs & a couple of women who prefered to just watch. She got so turned on as i was describing how it went on that she told me that she wanted me to organize her one. At first i thought she meant that she wanted me to take her to one but no, she wanted me to organize one where she’d be the main course! I was actually surprised at her reaction but she was totally willing & told me just to organize one & she didn’t really care that much whether she got paid or not. She’d leave the organizing up to me. She said it was something she had fantasized about but never really imagined it could actually happen. Anyways to make a long story short covid happened & then i had to take care of some personal issues which prevented me from going back to Mtl & by the time i returned she was retired & her phone number was hers no more. Lol

 

[Gazoo64]

I don’t get it, not my thing at all. Maybe I’m missing something ?!? What’s the thrill? Sorry I know some might like this, but not for me.

I’d rather pay the full price and have sex with her, assuming it’s an SP that I’ve been wanting to see. To each their own, I guess!

 

[cru_33]

It definitely isn’t for everyone. I like going because that’s the only place it really feels safe to have sex in front of other people. I love Club L because the windows really make it interesting. You can see people looking at you and commenting but you can’t hear what they’re saying unless you invite them in.

One of my favorite memories was at Club L. Definitely not a bad idea you have there

 

[AirBo]

I was dating a girl once whose fantasy was to be watched (by a girl) while getting dominated / roughed up and to also watch me fuck another girl in the same session. (Trust me. that was one of her more vanilla fantasies...)
She even planned to hire an SP to do exactly that, but we split up before it became a reality. Her idea was for me to fuck the SP while looking into her eyes the entire time.

Sounds like my upcoming birthday

 

[LC18]

No, trust me brother, the things she was into makes both of us look like virgin schoolboys.

Slide in my DMs I’m curious. Good morning btw, don’t want to be rude

 

[Doc Holliday]

I was dating a girl once whose fantasy was to be watched (by a girl) while getting dominated / roughed up and to also watch me fuck another girl in the same session. (Trust me. that was one of her more vanilla fantasies...)
She even planned to hire an SP to do exactly that, but we split up before it became a reality. Her idea was for me to fuck the SP while looking into her eyes the entire time.

That’s why i think the voyeur/cuckold scenario could possibly attract female clients. One time a buddy of mine & I were each seeing different sp at the same time & we had adjoining rooms. The sp he was seeing also happened to be a regular of mine whom i had become very good friends with over the years. After i was done with my own appointment & finished showering the phone rang & my buddy asked me to drop over since the sp he was with wanted to say hello. So i went to his room & she was finishing her own shower when i got there. When she was done we sat down & enjoyed a glass of wine together as we caught up on things since the last time we spoke. It was by then getting late in the evening & my buddy was feeling tired & said he’d be going to bed but it was ok if we stayed. Then the girl suggested we move to my room next door & let my friend sleep.

Once in my room we had more wine & as time went on she moved towards me & sat next to me at the end of the bed. She put our glasses on a nearby table & put a hand on my lap. I wasn’t sure where this was heading & the next thing you know we began to make out. I was tempted to push things further but it felt awkward since i wasn’t planning to turn it into a business transaction (if you know what i mean) and as crazy as it sounds i’d feel awkward if it’d be a freebie. Then i thought fuck it i’ll go for it & when i asked her if i could remove her dress she replied “let’s call a girl”. It was about 1am or probably later by then & i was starting to feel tired myself. Plus i wasn’t sure if i had enough cash on me plus enough energy for a threesome. “Oh, i wasn’t thinking of a threesome. We can have this some other time. I want to watch you fucking another girl. I’ve always wanted to see you with another girl.” I was nearly speechless! “Are you serious?”, i asked. She was. I told her i didn’t have all the money on me & she replied she’d pay half. However she told me to specify to the agency that it would not be for a threesome. To tell them that it would be for me & my gf would just watch & not participate. I called one agency & they said the girl would have to be paid double anyway. So we called another agency (Devilish or Eleganza, can’t remember) and they said no problem (it helped that i was a regular) and listed a few girls who were available. So i picked someone i had never seen & 20 minutes or so later the girl showed up. She hadn’t been told of the scenario & said she had never done this type of thing yet & it would feel weird. I told her i felt the exact same way but it had been my friend’s idea. Anyways we all had a drink together & she was more relaxed & the fact my lady friend was also in the business likely helped. Anyways we moved to one of the beds & my sp friend sat on the next bed to watch us. I remember later during doggy i took a look at my sp friend & she was now in her bra & panties & rubbing herself as she watched us fucking. “Holy shit this is hot!”, i said. And it was & remains one of my favorite memories.

 

[Jordd]

That’s why i think the voyeur/cuckold scenario could possibly attract female clients. One time a buddy of mine & I were each seeing different sp at the same time & we had adjoining rooms. The sp he was seeing also happened to be a regular of mine whom i had become very good friends with over the years. After i was done with my own appointment & finished showering the phone rang & my buddy asked me to drop over since the sp he was with wanted to say hello. So i went to his room & she was finishing her own shower when i got there. When she was done we sat down & enjoyed a glass of wine together as we caught up on things since the last time we spoke. It was by then getting late in the evening & my buddy was feeling tired & said he’d be going to bed but it was ok if we stayed. Then the girl suggested we mive to my room next door & let my friend sleep.

Once in my room we had more wine & as time went on she moved towards me & sat next to me at the end of the bed. She put our glasses on a nearby table & put a hand on my lap. I wasn’t sure where this was heading & the next thing you know we began to make out. I was tempted to push things further but it felt awkward since i wasn’t planning to turn it into a business transaction (if you know what i mean) and as crazy as it sounds i’d feel awkward if it’d be a freebie. Then i thought fuck it i’ll go for it & when i asked her if i could remove her dress she replied “let’s call a girl”. It was about 1am or probably later by then & i was starting to feel tired myself. Plus i wasn’t sure if i had enough cash on me plus enough energy for a threesome. “Oh, i wasn’t thinking of a threesome. We can have this some other time. I want to watch you fucking another girl. I’ve always wanted to see you with another girl.” I was nearly speechless! “Are you serious?”, i asked. She was. I told her i didn’t have all the money on me & she replied she’d pay half. However she told me to specify to the agency that it would not be for a threesome. To tell them that it would be for me & my gf would just watch & not participate. I called one agency & they said the girl would have to be paid double anyway. So we called another agency (Devilish or Eleganza, can’t remember) and they said no problem (it helped that i was a regular) and listed a few girls who were available. So i picked someone i had never seen & 20 minutes or so later the girl showed up. She hadn’t been told of the scenario & said she had never done this type of thing yet & it would feel weird. I told her i felt the exact same way but it had been my friend’s idea. Anyways we all had a drink together & she was more relaxed & the fact my lady friend was also in the business likely helped. Anyways we moved to one of the beds & my sp friend sat on the next bed to watch us. I remember later during doggy i took a look at my sp friend & she was now in her bra & panties & rubbing herself as she watched us fucking. “Holy shit this is hot!”, i said. And it was & remains one of my favorite memories.

Great story!

I would say women have many more varied fantasies than men. We’d probably be shocked by some of them. But there is a difference between having a fantasy and actually wanting to enact it. I think women are even less likely to seek out those fantasies. Sure, women have cuckold fantasies (male or Queen cuckold), but would they hire two people for that? Doubt it. It would make more sense if it were a couple seeking a male or female to enact their fantasy. Swingers clubs seem like a good place for that, but what do I know, haven’t tried it.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I would say women have many more varied fantasies than men. We’d probably be shocked by some of them. But there is a difference between having a fantasy and actually wanting to enact it. I think women are even less likely to seek out those fantasies. Sure, women have cuckold fantasies (male or Queen cuckold), but would they hire two people for that? Doubt it. It would make more sense if it were a couple seeking a male or female to enact their fantasy. Swingers clubs seem like a good place for that, but what do I know, haven’t tried it.

Very true. I once had a gf who for a couple of years kept asking me to try a threesome. One day she returned from a visit to a friend & told me her friend told her she was attracted to me & would be all in for a threesome. I didn’t really know her friend but she wasn’t bad looking. So after being bugged to try a threesome for nearly two years i finally said yes! Then my ex-gf began to start acting weird, accusing me of wanting to fuck around. I reminded her that she was the one who came up with the idea, not me. Then she told me i had to absolutely wear a comdom. So i told her if i didn’t have to wear a condom with her why did i absolutely have to wear a condom with the other girl if she was okay with me not wearing one? Of course i was kidding around & just testing her. Finally i told her of course i’d wear a condom. Then she got all paranoid & worried the other girl would end up stealing me from her. I told her she was being ridiculous! Then i started to wonder of she wasn’t going to get into some jealous fit once she’d see me with the other girl. So finally we ended up cancelling the whole thing & my ex-gf started accusing the other girl (her friend) of trying to sleep with me & stopped talking to her! This whole crazy story could have been made into an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm! Lol

As for the option of going to a swingers club for the voyeur/cuckold experience it’s an option however most people are not comfortable going to a swimgers club. It took me over 15 years of hobbying to finally get the courage to go to one & the only reason i did was because an sp i was good friends with at the time had never been to one either & coaxed me to go (without her) to tell her about the experience on the following day. She wanted to live the experience through me. And to be honest it was one of my top experiences ever & i have her to thank for opening my eyes to this underground world! Life is short & people shouldn’t be afraid to try out different experiences before passing judgement on them. So basically what i’m saying is that people not interested in going to a swingers club may be the perfect clients for an sp offering the voyeur/cuckold scenario.

 

[Halloween Mike]

It wouldn't be for me, but on the other side i would probably enjoy having sex with an SP in front of her boyfriend or something. I guess its a bit of a pervy fantasy as in "yeah you may have her all the time for free, but right now its ME who enjoy YOUR girl". I guess this go along the concept that i have 0 interest in being a sub at all (and have a hard time understanding why peoples like this fantasy)

I mean i do enjoy porn where the guy is very dominant but because i like seeing the woman being subdue to his wish (and i put myself in his shoes kinda), yet i struggle doing it myself (the few times i tried when Unicorn was around). But i have 0 interest for cuckhold scenes in itself. I mean if the guys are gangbanging a chick in front of a cuckhold or such i just kinda "block mentally/ignore" the cuckhold guy and if there is something involved with the dude that is too "gay-based" (like him eating the cumshot off the mouth of the chick or boobs etc) i just edit it out.

 

[CaptRenault]

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[jurrien timber]

i would be really interested if the fee is reasonable