Details in reviews...

[man77777]

Once again you have everybody against you on this subject, I dont think we will all be able to explain you the difference between an exageration and a lie, nor will we be able to explain why it's stupid to compar a little verbal rudeness to an abuse, nor to explain that "saggy tits" is a description that could attract some of us (yeap, if you see "saggy tits" as an insult then you insult the one that love saggy tits and all the women that have saggy tits...)...

You are too aggressive boy, you need to relax, book a girl for tonight and you will feel far better tomorrow...

 

[EagerBeaver]

My opinion about reviews with a lotsss of details?.

I hope you are not posting here to get the attention of the 3 or 4 guys who said they like saggy tits?????????? Of course I never met you and don't whether your tits are saggy or perky or in the middle somewhere, but you posted after a few guys mentioned they love saggy tits...........

I agree with you on the YMMV aspect of detailed reviews.......people reading it expect the same services to be performed for them and it may not be......

 

[Maria Divina]

I hope you are not posting here to get the attention of the 3 or 4 guys who said they like saggy tits?????????? Of course I never met you and don't whether your tits are saggy or perky or in the middle somewhere, but you posted after a few guys mentioned they love saggy tits...........

:lol: No, I did not write because of that... I don't have any complain about my breast, gentlemen and myself are very happy with it... :nod: "they" are still looking right in front of them, if you want to know... Anyway, you don't have to take only my words, you will soon see it by yourself, new website is about to be online. (if I can go thru the "writer's block")

ps: You know how to talk to ladies you... :lol:

ps2: To all who think to say to a woman: You have "saggy tits" could be a compliment, you were born certainly in another planet that me.

I agree with you on the YMMV aspect of detailed reviews.......people reading it expect the same services to be performed for them and it may not be......

I am happy that you have, at the end, understand my principal point. Fiew! :thumb:

 

[Mod 12]

I have communicated with Delight Escorts and our inquiry is still ongoing. At the least, I can say there has been no violent or forced, in a non-consentual sense, behavior done by anyone. Do Bianka or other SPs care for some of these kinds of encounters? That is another matter entirely and I am sure varies in degree and by individual.

What is important is that as far as we can tell, there has been no behavior that we can deem as violent or against any one's will. If certain requests or acts are unacceptable to the agency or girl, I am sure they will take measures to prevent them from occuring. It is the business of the girls and the agency. It is not for members here to dictate, when frankly, they have no idea what the situation is.

I also want to caution people on going on a "witch-hunt" vilifying specific individuals. As mentioned, we are not in the room when encounters occur. Coming to conclusions based on a few paragraph review, then making definite judgements on those conclusions, is not responsible at all.

I know you all mean well and only have a young girl's welfare in mind, as do we at MERB. Let's just be careful guys in making assumptions and jumping to conclusions based solely on our own perception, without having anything more than a few paragraphs written on an escort review board.

One good thing about this, is it brought awareness regarding some safety issues. We now will not permit any descriptions of forced, semi-forced or dominating type acts, that can easily be misinterpreted by the wrong individuals, comprimising an SPs safety.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I had always thought these kinds of issues should be discussed in the "Fetish and Fantasy" forum. I noticed that other boards have "domination" forums in which posts like Akon's are probably routine. There is no "domination" forum on MERB, but there is one on BestGFE, and the posters mainly talk about being beaten and humiliated.

I mentioned to one of the posters in the BestGFE domination forum (jokingly, although don't know how he took it) that a really good humiliation fantasy was a toilet bowl head dunking, semi-drowning such as what Jeff Bridges was subjected to by the goon who breaks into his apartment in the movie "The Big Lebowski". That scene was actually a beating and humiliation of Bridges by a goon/henchman of a gangster, not an SP. I think a strong SP would be needed for that kind of humiliation fantasy. Of course, for "The Dude", that was a humiliation he was not seeking. But it was a wonderfully executed scene in a fantastic movie.

Was the original thread posted in the "Fetish and Fantasy" forum? Also, why is there no "domination" forum?

Maria - I am sure you have great boobs. I was just curious about the timing of your post in this thread suddenly appearing after a few guys said they liked saggy tits, which is when you jumped in all of a sudden. I would surmise that any SPs out there with saggy tits would want to "jump in" and get the attention of the snoodles and gugus of the world. Is this not common sense?

 

[Maria Divina]

Maria - I am sure you have great boobs. I was just curious about the timing of your post in this thread suddenly appearing after a few guys said they liked saggy tits. I would surmise that any SPs out there with saggy tits would want to "jump in" and get the attention of the snoodles and gugus of the world. Is this not common sense?

Oh! excuse-me for the "bad timing", I did not check that before posting, you know :lol:
ps: Believe me, I am not looking for Gugu's attention... :lol: and I don't know at all Snoodles.
pps: From that long I am a participant here, you should know that I am not only participating to have more "visibility"... Because, if this was the case, believe me, I would prefer to keep my exchanges in a "sexy" mood, and it is not the case.

And I know that you know the kind of things who make me react; I just write on what appeared to be the conclusion we could all share after this event.

I am just happy of what Mod12 had announced:

One good thing about this, is it brought awareness regarding some safety issues. We now will not permit any descriptions of forced, semi-forced or dominating type acts, that can easily be misinterpreted by the wrong individuals, comprimising an SPs safety.

That's a really good first step to give back "freedom of choice" to the ladies.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Maria, I was partly teasing you, but I assumed you had read the posts preceding yours. I don't assume that people do not read the threads they are posting in, except for the "Obama's America" thread, which would take 5 years to read.

 

[Maria Divina]

Maria, I was partly teasing you, but I assumed you had read the posts preceding yours.

I read quickly, I saw the "saggy comments" but I was answering in the spirit of the thread starter...

You were partly teasing me?

You should totally tease me instead. I am sure you are much better when you are all into it.

:lol:

 

[EagerBeaver]

You were partly teasing me?

OK, OK I was totally teasing you but in my mind there was like a 10% chance that you had saggy tits and were posting to get that saggy tit client base which manifested itself in the posts before yours. I know that is not normally your style but if you did have saggy tits, and did time your post in that fashion, it would have been a very, very clever marketing tactic to get exposure of yourself to the saggy tit lovers. Like I said, I have never seen your tits, so how would I know if they sag or point to the sky?

So it was 90% me teasing and 10% actually believing there was a chance that you were a clever saggy tit SP looking for some adoration.:lol:

 

[Maria Divina]

So it was 90% me teasing and 10% actually believing there was a chance that you were a clever saggy tit SP looking for some adoration.:lol:

Oh! well! I will have to make a pictures of my breast now. No choice!

:nod:

An adoration of "saggy tit" ... my! what religion is that again?...

:lol:

 

[EagerBeaver]

An adoration of "saggy tit" ... my! what religion is that again?...

:lol:

It is the religion of snoodles and gugu and man77777 from his posts....... I did not know that such a religion existed, but new religions and cults are forming every day.:hippie::hippie:

 

[gugu]

I also want to caution people on going on a "witch-hunt" vilifying specific individuals.

The reference was to a hypothetical case submitted by Cloudsurf. I don't think anybody pretends to know anything about what really happened in the meeting described in the review. In my mind, what it comes down to is very simple:

1 In ANY case where submission is part of a meeting as a role play, the consent and rules haves to be discussed clearly between the provider and the client BEFORE any action begins to avoid any ambiguity. That is how it is done, I am quite sure, by all providers in the BDSM world.

2 Members with a minimum sense of ethics should get an agreement from the provider BEFORE writing a review containing ANY description of submission act that occurred during the meeting.

Believe me, I am not looking for Gugu's attention... :lol:

That's too bad. After all, maybe I am the owner of merb.

It is the religion of snoodles and gugu and man77777 from his posts....... I did not know that such a religion existed, but new religions and cults are forming every day.:hippie::hippie:

For your info, the Association québécoise des amateurs de seins mous, is a very complex initiatic sect. If you want to learn about it, you have to start right at the beginning with the basic learnings and, if you build devotion, you may climb the ladders, seven of them. The lodge was created in California in the beginning of the seventies by a bunch of people with saggy brains resulting from the abuse of an unknown substance that we believe was developed in the CIA laboratories in the fifties.

 

[Merlot]

Okay,

OK, OK I was totally teasing you but in my mind there was like a 10% chance that you had saggy tits and were posting to get that saggy tit client base which manifested itself in the posts before yours.

I have very fond memories of Maria's memorable mammories. They are nicely shaped, very silky and sweet...not saggy. :thumb: I like all kinds of tits, small, big, high and tight, full and low hanging, very firm or soft. Saggy to me sounds like something deflated and flapping in the breeze, and that I don't like. Maria's pass all the test standards for hot..."YABOZE" (sp?) as my Jewish friend used to say.

...the consent and rules haves to be discussed clearly between the provider and the client BEFORE any action begins to avoid any ambiguity.

Yeah, but how words are understood is a problem. A simple word like "hard" or "harder" in this circumstance shouldn't be an issue between reasonable persons, but you never know how one will interpret that or possibly try to take advantage. Have a long discussion before the meeting because doing it in the moment can be a real mood breaker.

I agree that details of this sort in a review can put the lady at a real expectation disadvantage with other clients. Reviews with these elements should be scrutinized carefully. I used to send some reviews to the ladies before posting them to make sure there wasn't something that made them concerned about the expectations of others. For myself, I'm not into this BDSM stuff, but there was one one lady who requested removing any references to DFK. Even the much more common generic details concern some ladies, never mind the elements of BDSM.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[cloudsurf]

Gugu, what friggin hypothetical case are you talking about man?
There are facts....there have been actions..... and as a result, there have been consequences.

If you own Merb , then you should have no trouble getting all the pertinent info you want from Mod 12.

Don`t make this into a complicated issue. Agencies have the power to ban bad clients....and they do, and escorts have the power to say no and walk away and they do. Then there is Stella

 

[gugu]

Cool down buddy. I was referring to this sentence:

If a girl consents to be abused...that`s her bussiness. If not, and she is too intimidated to resist, then its borderline criminal.

that's hypothetical since we don't know what happens. The facts, we ignore. We are discussing a general issue, details in reviews, not commenting on what really happened in this specific case. I was not attacking you with my response, simply emphasizing the profound disgust that most of us, including you, have towards any forcing move with a provider.

The issue here, what is acceptable as details in a review, sorry to say, is complicated. I am quite sure that the two mod posts in this thread, very reasonable in my view, took him quite a lot of time to think about. Girls hate to read details in reviews. They provide specific treatments to specific clients, opening more or less their intimacy and expect the client to keep some things for themselves. On the other side, a review board is, to a certain extend, about details. There needs to be a balance between both. Merb has certainly evolved in that respect, in the righ direction IMHO.

 

[sak]

I'm always curious whether Sps read these reviews, so I ask them. More often than not, I get a grimace at the mention of merb. Why? They say it can be great, but the hurtful comments stick. For example, describing a woman with a perfecty natural body as "fat" or plump. I think that sort of thing can give people complexes. Or in one case, some recent reviews that prompted this thread, which did make the SP extremely uncomfortable. I think sometimes people forget we're dealing with humans. (it reminds me of an ex who would contantly ask, after gaining a few pounds, am I getting fat? She really kept this up for a while, so one day, I answered, after getting a guarantee that there would be no reperccusions to my answer, that maybe she was getting "a bit chubby". Revenge was swift: next time we had sex, she started bouncing really hard on me while saying: so I'm chubby yeah??? Lesson learnt.)

Not saying anyone should sugar coat faults, that could be dishonest. But it can get unfair.

 

[Maria Divina]

It is the religion of snoodles and gugu and man77777 from his posts....... I did not know that such a religion existed, but new religions and cults are forming every day.:hippie::hippie:

In real, I respect all religious people, if they are not taking their belief to dogma who brought them to criminal acts against children, women and men.

When people have rules of good conduct to stick to, they are generally good people to have in our surroundings, if they are respecting and not discriminating you because you could be different then them and not believe in a certain "God(s)"

I don't discriminate until someone is discriminating me (or others).

***

Ok, now time for my coffee... I am too serious.

:nod:

 

[Maria Divina]

That's too bad. After all, maybe I am the owner of merb.

Excuse-me to pop your "wannabe dream", but you are really not near to be at the level of Fred Zed...

:deadhorse:

:lol:

 

[Maria Divina]

I have very fond memories of Maria's memorable mammories. They are nicely shaped, very silky and sweet...not saggy. :thumb: I like all kinds of tits, small, big, high and tight, full and low hanging, very firm or soft. Saggy to me sounds like something deflated and flapping in the breeze, and that I don't like. Maria's pass all the test standards for hot..."YABOZE" (sp?) as my Jewish friend used to say.

OK, now I do not have to make a picture, thanks Merlot! :thumb:

Yeah, but how words are understood is a problem. A simple word like "hard" or "harder" in this circumstance shouldn't be an issue between reasonable persons, but you never know how one will interpret that or possibly try to take advantage. Have a long discussion before the meeting because doing it in the moment can be a real mood breaker.

Merlot, believe me, when you are preparing a BDSM event, there is to have few exchanges, even sometimes, one previous meeting before... The Tops have an entire questionnaire to submit to an eventual person who could be interested to live it in their company. There is much less things unspoken or unknown. But the Tops are working to extend the limits, but not against the will... That's a game. The day after the Top have meet someone, he/she will call back to know if everything is alright, if the bottom needs to be taken care of, if the session was "hard". That's the way things are suppose to be.

I agree that details of this sort in a review can put the lady at a real expectation disadvantage with other clients. Reviews with these elements should be scrutinized carefully.

That should be something who "appeared to all" long time ago. But sometimes, people are also voyeur and exhibitionists, and like that all others know what is going on in their private lives.
And plus, you know, that's part of the arguments to be against prostitution when everyone could read the description of a Sp made as she/he was simply a thing.

There are, grosso modo with some shade of grey, 2 big categories of men who are sharing and making reviews of this kind of "sex exchanges": some who love women and respect them and making respectful reviews, keeping in mind they are talking about another human...
and those who hate women and most the Sp's, and will make everything possible to put them down, they have their sights from their "superiority" and want to look cool in front of the other male members. And maybe, there are others, who just write like haters of women, because that's the way they saw others have made and think that's the way a review should be done.

That's sad, but that's part of the reality.

And in a way, this is perfect the way it is because:

1-We can know more someone when we are reading what he/she is writing. :nod:
2-We can be sure prostitution won't ever be legalized or plenty accepted by "society". And I truly believe the best will be that gouvernments won't legiferate on it, because they really don't know what it should be done, and they will make it worst for sure.
I believe all gouvernment are working for the beneficials $$$, not to promote a better living for their citizens.

That's another thing sad, but that's still part of the reality...

 

[Doc Holliday]

Akon; to be blunt, Doc's comment wasn't nice....actually, saying about a girl who had a kid (from what i read) that her breast is hanging to her waist is stupid....her breast could not be as ferm as before...butno need to exagerate...

She had a kid???

Okay, that explains it. I wasn't aware that she had a kid. It also explains why she had left the business for about a year. However, i need to point out that i think it's wrong to mention this stuff (that she has a kid) on a board like this one. Maybe she doesn't want people to know this. She never mentionned anything about this when i saw her.

But my comment at the time was intended to be my personal opinion (that a boobjob would do wonders for her) and made a reference that her tits hung down to her waist. I did post that i was exaggerating. I wanted to make my post funny. I should instead have posted that they hung down to the floor, so idiots out there could have realized that it was an obvious exaggeration & a lame attempt at humor. Or would they?

The actual reason why i made my post was due to the fact the person who wrote a prior review recommended her to 'boob lovers' out there. Personally, having seen her with my own three eyes, i'd be very disappointed if i were a boob lover for the reasons i pointed out. I actually felt that the reviewer tainted his review & made it misleading by saying what he did. But on the bright side, i'll point out that i found she had a great looking chest with clothes on. Sure, some people may like her chest when it's bare, so more power to them. But this board is all about sharing & expressing different opinions, so i gave mine, whether you like it or not.

I'll be the first one to admit that even though my initial post wound up sounding somewhat rude & not as funny as i intended it to, i was surprised only a few people noticed that i was exaggerating (even though i did openly admit to exaggerating), so i decided to make an edit.

As for the other review(s) being discussed in this thread, even though i do not necessarily agree with the wording used by the reviewers, that's nothing compared to many of the stories i've heard from sps & drivers over the years. It's actually quite lame.

p.s. Some people may not like the fact i tend to exaggerate at times when i post, but it's a technique i use when i need to make a point and/or when i try to put some humor into my posts. I've been doing this for 13 years and i'm not going to change one bit. Too many people on this board make mountains out of pebbles. Those people should stop being so narrow-minded, take a deep breath, exhale....and realize they're taking life way too seriously. I'm not singling anyone out, i'm simply generalizing.