Devious Agency Practices

[jeff jones]

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This poll, "The Most Reliable and Satisfying Escort Agencies Poll" dates to May 18 of 2008. Would you consider this a devious agency practice, an acceptance that his agency has gone downhill in the intervening period, or just silliness?

I would not consider it devious, it is the type of stuff that all agencies do to market themselves as the no. 1 agency in montreal much the same as burger joints claiming to have the best burgers. It is the same thing when a new girl starts at an agency they are described as gorgeous or a bombshell or very attractive and we know that is quite often not the case. I guess saying we have a new debutante who is very average is not the best for business

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I would not consider it devious, it is the type of stuff that all agencies do to market themselves as the no. 1 agency in montreal much the same as burger joints claiming to have the best burgers. It is the same thing when a new girl starts at an agency they are described as gorgeous or a bombshell or very attractive and we know that is quite often not the case. I guess saying we have a new debutante who is very average is not the best for business

Jeff, my issue was not with the claim, but with the silliness of linking to a three year old poll.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Jeff, my issue was not with the claim, but with the silliness of linking to a three year old poll.

But anyone can see that it is a 3 year old poll and draw their own conclusions. Nothing is being hidden.

By the ways, I don't know that XXXtase has gone downhill as you claim. Probably the two best escorts I saw in 2010 (Brittany, who was the certainly the best, and Jessie/Oceanne) were both XXXtase ladies. I have not used them in 2011, but it may be a statement of opinion rather than one of fact to say they have gone downhill since 2008.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

But anyone can see that it is a 3 year old poll and draw their own conclusions. Nothing is being hidden.

By the ways, I don't know that XXXtase has gone downhill as you claim. Probably the two best escorts I saw in 2010 (Brittany, who was the certainly the best, and Jessie/Oceanne) were both XXXtase ladies. I have not used them in 2011, but it may be a statement of opinion rather than one of fact to say they have gone downhill since 2008.

Beav, anyone can see that it is a three year old poll, but many will not notice. My sense is that there was an intent to mislead. (Deceive would probably be too strong a word.)

I didn't claim that the agency has gone downhill. What I said was that his having to resort to using a three year old poll amounted to an admission on his part that it has.

I don't think you can use Brittany's two day stay with XXXtase as evidence of a strong lineup.

 

[jeff jones]

By the ways, I don't know that XXXtase has gone downhill as you claim. Probably the two best escorts I saw in 2010 (Brittany, who was the certainly the best, and Jessie/Oceanne) were both XXXtase ladies. I have not used them in 2011, but it may be a statement of opinion rather than one of fact to say they have gone downhill since 2008.

I tend to agree with EB here. Jessie was one of the top 5 escorts that i have ever met and xxxtase has a good selection of ladies and as an agency they are very trustworthy. I don't go to much by the polls anyway. They are a good indicator for newbies but for anyone who has been around for a while you know who the good agencies are and why. They all use little marketing ploys that are in the accepted norm. As far as xxxtase goes as long as they can drop Jessie by my hotel room a couple of times this summer they will stay all right in my books

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I tend to agree with EB here.

Again, and I hope I make myself clear this time: I'm not disparaging the agency. I'm simply referring to the impression created by his post and his possible intent to mislead. I don't know that I've ever used XXXtase, but I wouldn't hesitate to if I saw someone there of interest.

 

[Merlot]

Hello all,

Yesterday, Martin of XXXtase, in his advertising post, said the following, "Don`t deprive yourself of Montreal`s BEST outcalls escort / model agency that has the best customer service & PUNCTUALITY the HOTTEST LADIES that offer the best service and have the BEST ATTITUDE here." The last word, "here" was a link to https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...fying-Escort-Agencies-Poll.&highlight=xxxtase.

This poll, "The Most Reliable and Satisfying Escort Agencies Poll" dates to May 18 of 2008. Would you consider this a devious agency practice, an acceptance that his agency has gone downhill in the intervening period, or just silliness?

Using my old poll from almost exactly three years ago, now out-dated and irrelevant, as a testimony of current service has to be considered deceptive, especially in view of Rumples own very recent poll https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?69071-Montreal-s-Best-Agency&highlight=best+agency giving XXXTASE just 10%. Personally, I like XXXTASE, but any agency using advertisements with badly outdated data like the one described above should be made accountable. I`m disappointed by the maneuver, and hope XXXTASE will think before making such choices in the future. Had they made their claims without connecting them to a 3-year-old poll it could have been excused as marketing. With the connection there is no way to justify the ad.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[Mod 11]

...
So i wrote in a new thread how rude the booker was, only to find that thread dissapear..?
( did i erase it? I doubt it )

That one? https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...listed-for-me!&p=523439&highlight=#post523439

How easy it is not to search carefully (or not bother searching at all?) and then insinuate foul play... Now, some MERB defender of the truth will soon reply that the post was mysteriously deleted restored by somebody, not the mods, not Fred, "somebody"... Of course, it`s clear only mods and Fred can delete posts but he won`t accuse directly, it`s "somebody"...

 

[Mod 11]

Rumple, how many places in Montreal advertise the best pizza, best burger, best whatever? Whoever is foolish enough to give any credibility to such claim deserve to be taken to the cleaner. The golden rule in any business: always check any claims that are made.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Actually the Utopia Guide (one of the New York City escort review boards) has such a policy. It used to be 3 minutes to edit your post, then I think they increased it to 10 because 3 minutes was not enough. But after that you cannot remove the post, only the Moderator can. It discourages very frivolous posting, I think.

I may be wrong, but i remember TERB having a similar policy.

 

[Aeolus]

This is a very sneaky, misleading marketing tactic whereby the agency lists as "on" a bunch of ladies who are not working so as to induce you to call, then they try and switch you on to another lady who actually is working when you call. It is not pure bait and switch, but rather a subtle form of it. It's bullshit in my book.

Look at the bright side, they could have booked you with the girl (even though she wasn't working) and then called you up before showtime (after all the popular girls in the city had been booked for the night) to tell you that she went home sick. Now that would have been really cruel because then you would have been forced to either accept a booking with an unpopular girl or jerk off.

I mean if you are going to bait and switch, do the fucking job right!!!! He could not even properly bait and switch me.

Scam artists aren't what they used to be, EB. There's very little pride in craft nowadays.

 

[Turbodick]

Thanks to the Mods for restoring these posts. I just want to make one more point.

I called Angel Escorts early afternoon on 4/23 - 3:03 pm per my cellphone records. Inquiring about Chanel.

Here is the advertising thread they put up on MERB at 2:15 pm that day, some 48 minutes earlier:

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...TABATHA-CELINA-NEW-ELECTRA-SEXY-PICS-ANGELINA

They informed me in a second call at 3:06 p.m. that Chanel was having her period and would not be in.

The old period excuse. I`ve gone to major lengths to prepare for appointments only to have them cancelled 15 minutes ahead of time because she started her period. I did a little math based on the percentage any given lady will be in the cycle and my percentage of having the flow suddenly start is something like 3 times the average. Am I just unlucky or is it bullshit?

It`s just a convenient if not true excuse most of the time.

 

[Turbodick]

Ah, but once in a while you hit a gem that makes all the bullshit worthwhile.

 

[Red Paul]

Any agency that has Cynthia can't be all bad.

 

[EagerBeaver]

EB i`m sorry for the inconvenience that happened to u on that night as plan C, which i don`t call it B & S but I assure you if you call me i will personally take care of you so you see that we don`t bait & switch at
Angel Escorts!!:wave::wave:

Tony I did not post this thread to posture myself for a discount, freebie or special treatment like some others would have done. I posted because I was upset and felt this was an unfair trade practice.

I can understand the whole part about Chanel having pre-confirmed she was working that day and that is why you posted her as "on" in the thread. But after your agency informed me Chanel was not working that day due to having her period, her name continued to be posted on MERB as on that day, even though you or someone from Angel Escorts bumped the thread 4.5 hours after I spoke to the agency, and then again 7 hours later with no deletion of Chanel as being "on", although it was known she was not coming in that day at exactly 3:06 p.m. I posted the thread for everyone on MERB to see:

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...TABATHA-CELINA-NEW-ELECTRA-SEXY-PICS-ANGELINA

The original post was last edited a 9:59 p.m. that day, AFTER the thread bump at 7:34 p.m. What exactly do you call that Tony, if it is not bait and switch? Do you call it "Ooops"? Or do you just routinely post a bunch of girls who say they are coming in but actually don`t come in for whatever reason?

I would use your agency again if you had a girl working for you that I really wanted to see, but if I called I would not ask for any discount. I would also be prepared to be sales pitched on a girl different than the one I am calling on. Hobbyists are loyal to ladies, in my experience they have very little REAL loyalty to agencies. If Ibiza left your agency tomorrow and went to XXXtase, her regular customers would kiss your ass goodbye and say "Hello, Martin!" No offense to you personally but that is how it works for the most part.

That being said, I did get very good customer service from you when booking Ibiza in December but the service this time has already been discussed. I will not use labels any more but everyone can read the thread and draw their own conclusions.

 

[Mod 11]

Guys, please keep this thread generic. The purpose of the original thread split was to allow a discussion on the general practices performed by some agencies, not to focus on a specific problem on a specific situation. Specific stuff can be dealt with in private.

Post that will not follow this guideline will be deleted.

Thanks

 

[Doc Holliday]

EB i'm sorry for the inconvenience that happened to u on that night as plan C, which i don't call it B & S but I assure you if you call me i will personally take care of you so you see that we don't bait & switch at Angel Escorts!!

Tony I did not post this thread to posture myself for a discount, freebie or special treatment like some others would have done.

Tony, since the Beav isn't interested in any special treatment or other arrangement from you, would it be okay if he were to transfer the offer over to me?

 

[Minnesotah]

I recently had a similar experience with a well known agency in Toronto. They announce X ladies from time Y to time Z, but when you'll call them up in advance or early in the day, they're only available at one specific time during that shift and they refer you others SPs. You got to work on that time slot or choose somebody else. I don't think that's pure b&s, but sorta false advertisement on the fact the schedule is totally useless. If it is not like try to book Alice at 2pm and get told that she can't be ready anytime before 4 or would you see Barbara at 2pm instead, but being told Alice and Barbara are there from 12 to 8, but will see one at 2:30pm. In that case, announce them at 2:30pm only.

 

[Kansas Frank]

Ah, but once in a while you hit a gem that makes all the bullshit worthwhile.

True, but EB, DH, RK and other highly respected Merbites would not be complaining if it was only once in a while to find a gem.

No one, whether they are veterans like EB, DH and RK or a "virgin hobbyist," should be treated like a moron on the phone by any booker.

I was fortunate enough to have hit upon Ms. Jessy's agency when I began hobbying in Montreal. (I've complemented on Ms. Jessy of Montreal Sex City on this board and the blue board.) She was very nice, professional and honest when I began communicating with her. And she was a pleasure to deal with; she's also funny. If my first venture had been as unpleasant as what EB went through, I would never have stuck around long enough in Montreal to gain an appreciation for its Hobbyland. I didn't know about Merb or the other board until after my first SP told me about the other board and K.I.M. told me about Merb during a session I had with her.

Like any business, for Montreal's hobbyland to thrive and to maintain its viability, it must be able to attract new hobbyists.

 

[Claude74]

So i did Plan D pan out?

I was wonder say question.