Did you even go on a trip with a SB or escort?
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Yes. Take a trip to S.A. or S.E.A. to have fun mongering, pick a girl you connect with, and offer her a free vacation. You pay expenses. Nothing else need be paid except for her passage and expenses, plus you get an extra trip. Your extra trip will cost less than paying someone to go with you on the cruise.
I personally have gone on weekend getaways a few times with 3 different SPs/indies that I knew before. The “know well” part is at least 10 bookings in the past, so there are no surprises and the vibe is really good—so think 24h booking. It’s nice. It’s my current max, but I have never gone (outside of the province) with them as of yet.
I talked with one indie from Montreal about going abroad & taking a flight for a 4-5 day trip. She explained to me that, if all the travel expenses are paid by the client, she would charge $200 each time we have fun in bed but would not charge for the time outside of that, as she would also enjoy being in a nice place.
So my budget guess would be $7,000 for a round trip & accommodation for 2 persons for 4 days and maybe a $2–3k extra budget for her.
Things to consider would be if she has a valid passport and no country/flight bans. Before buying the ticket. Apparently it’s something a bit common among SPs to have some sort of issues traveling abroad. And if they request their own room to sleep alone … lol
I hope it helps.
I talked with one indie from Montreal about going abroad & taking a flight for a 4-5 day trip. She explained to me that, if all the travel expenses are paid by the client, she would charge $200 each time we have fun in bed but would not charge for the time outside of that, as she would also enjoy being in a nice place.
So my budget guess would be $7,000 for a round trip & accommodation for 2 persons for 4 days and maybe a $2–3k extra budget for her.
Things to consider would be if she has a valid passport and no country/flight bans. Before buying the ticket. Apparently it’s something a bit common among SPs to have some sort of issues traveling abroad. And if they request their own room to sleep alone … lol
I hope it helps.
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If I'm paying for all her expenses on a vacation somewhere abroad , all inclusive for her paid by me, no way in hell I"m paying her everytime we do the dirty, no way, I'm not desperate and I was born at night but not last night, advice take all that money and use it to spend time with 20 other escorts, instead of going in debt by one....
For the people I'm describing that never, ever happens, and I've done this a number of times.
Forgive my saying so, but that's an insane amount of money to be paid after you factor in the costs of getting her there in the first place plus all expenses. At the very least you should have a set price for the entire excursion, but even so it's likely to be a very high amount if you're dealing locally with people who normally charge by the hour. $10K for a 4 day trip with an SP is absolutely wacky. I apologize, as I'm not trying to deliberately offend you, but at that rate instead of bringing sand to the beach you should just go to the beach instead.
Well to each their own. And their budget.
The same goes for people who pay a tshirt 10$, 100$ or 1000$.
People paying a T-shirt 10$ and 100$ might think the one paying it 1000$ is crazy.
Same for the one paying a tshirt 1000$ might think that a 10$ or 100$ is not worth it.
There is both bad or wrong. Just something fine and fitting for each of us.
You're just telling him how he should and what's best to use his money which is intrusive and performative.
I never said I ever paid $10k for a 4-5 days trip
But in my opinion it’s likely the budget if you want to go somewhere really nice with the top SPs from here. Montreal
You can definitely have fun on a Lower budget if you just go alone or with hobby buddies to Vietnam or Thailand lol
Or just choose to stay in Montreal and enjoy making 30 to 35h of booking whenever with whoever with the same budget
But maybe there are SPs that don’t charge extra if you pay everything else. I just haven’t met them yet or are in travel restrictions
But in my opinion it’s likely the budget if you want to go somewhere really nice with the top SPs from here. Montreal
You can definitely have fun on a Lower budget if you just go alone or with hobby buddies to Vietnam or Thailand lol
Or just choose to stay in Montreal and enjoy making 30 to 35h of booking whenever with whoever with the same budget
But maybe there are SPs that don’t charge extra if you pay everything else. I just haven’t met them yet or are in travel restrictions
For the people I'm describing that never, ever happens, and I've done this a number of times.
Forgive my saying so, but that's an insane amount of money to be paid after you factor in the costs of getting her there in the first place plus all expenses. At the very least you should have a set price for the entire excursion, but even so it's likely to be a very high amount if you're dealing locally with people who normally charge by the hour. $10K for a 4 day trip with an SP is absolutely wacky. I apologize, as I'm not trying to deliberately offend you, but at that rate instead of bringing sand to the beach you should just go to the beach instead.
Eh, that arrangement actually sounds fairly reasonable. Comparatively, Indys regularly charge 4-5K just to hang out with them for the weekend... they also need 10 hours of uninterrupted sleep each night
No, I say this as someone who knows what he's talking about. As I said, I've done this more than a few times. What people fail to realize are some of the hidden costs involved in these excursions, both financial, personal and opportunity costs. In order to be reasonable you need to consider properly feeding your companion, and I don't mean hot dogs and fries for a week. You need to consider entertainment and drinks. You need to consider airfare, shopping and large variety of small incidentals that add up. You also need to consider what happens when you find that after a day you no longer enjoy the company of the person you're with, and that your interests and goals for the trip are entirely different. When you want to send them home early what is "fair"? Or do you suffer through the rest of your time? What do you do together when you're not in bed? Do you have to give up activities you want to pursue in order to accommodate? What about food choices? Do you try to establish "dominion" over her company or is she a free agent and what is your expectation for time together? In an area where there is opportunity do either you or she have free reign to see other people? There's aa zillion little factors that go into this. The money is just a piece of it.
Now, having said that the destination of the trip is important because it dictates whether there is ample opportunity (sand to the beach) to meet other ladies locally or whether you're going somewhere where that isn't a possibility. There is a philosophical question involved here in whether it is even worthwhile to consider this when you could date someone locally in their own country for a week or whatever without having to do any of this stuff and also have an easy escape hatch.
As for cost, there's no question that it's considerably more expensive to take someone with you. By a huge margin. Not everyone has that huge margin to play with so yes, I'm telling him that the obvious option isn't the only one out there. Or necessarily the easiest or the best. There's a number of factors to consider.
I never said I ever paid $10k for a 4-5 days trip
But in my opinion it’s likely the budget if you want to go somewhere really nice with the top SPs from here. Montreal
I don't disagree that what you propose is a likely budget for what you propose. There's a couple of things to bear in mind. Not all MERB members in this discussion are from Montreal, so there may be added factors and costs associated with it that may make it practical to take someone from their own home town instead. Secondly, 30-35 hours of fun really isn't much. On the budget you propose you can (and I have) literally bang porn stars and models in other places for a week for that much money and come home with change. Or you could go to Asia, say the Philippines for example, and monger for a month including all stays and meals and drinks, with an afternoon massage every day and banging a couple of times a day easily for the budget you propose.
I'm not saying that these are necessarily better options for you or anyone else. What I am saying is that unless you have a close personal tie and level of trust and desire in the person you are proposing to take that you owe it to yourself to at least consider other available options.
I guess a lot depends on your relationship with that SP.
I wouldn’t mind going on a vacation with my ATF who I have known for over 8 years. We have talked about it and hopefully our schedules will line up one of these days.
It would be to the country I was born in and I guess I kind of expect it to cost around $10,000-$12000, for a week, with flights a nice condo in the centre of downtown, food, entertainment, souvenirs for her, her family and friends. If I am on a vacation I don’t like skimping on things.
I would not do it with someone I haven’t known for years and with her I would take her even if she would only agree as a friend without intimacy as I enjoy her company and it would be just a thank you for the many years of kindness she has shown me and the fact that she has made a difference in my life. She is not someone I see just for sex but a friend.
Yes it would be far cheaper to just hire local SP in that country, but as I have said it is not just about sex but returning a kindness of many years and I know I would have an amazing time with her. Not everything is about money and a calculation of what is better for you financially.
I wouldn’t mind going on a vacation with my ATF who I have known for over 8 years. We have talked about it and hopefully our schedules will line up one of these days.
It would be to the country I was born in and I guess I kind of expect it to cost around $10,000-$12000, for a week, with flights a nice condo in the centre of downtown, food, entertainment, souvenirs for her, her family and friends. If I am on a vacation I don’t like skimping on things.
I would not do it with someone I haven’t known for years and with her I would take her even if she would only agree as a friend without intimacy as I enjoy her company and it would be just a thank you for the many years of kindness she has shown me and the fact that she has made a difference in my life. She is not someone I see just for sex but a friend.
Yes it would be far cheaper to just hire local SP in that country, but as I have said it is not just about sex but returning a kindness of many years and I know I would have an amazing time with her. Not everything is about money and a calculation of what is better for you financially.
I didn’t see it that way.
He is just explaining the different options and breaking it down as to what makes sense financially and what options there are.
Taking an SP and paying an extra $20,000 for her time ( which would probably be her going rate ) on top of it is not something I would do even if I can afford it.
For me it has to be that she actually wants to be there and that we enjoy each others company not because I am paying her a large amount of money that is a recipe for disaster. When you have to make a long list of dos and don'ts and rules for uninterrupted sleep and private time etc… it just doesn’t make sense anymore.
I think if you know each other well just being kind and respectful will be enough without it becoming a contract negotiation type of adventure which would not make any sense to me that is why it is so important to know and like the person for who she is not just the sex.
It really all depends on your relationship with the SP you want to take and what your expectations are.
I would say if you are looking at it purely financially it is far cheaper to hire local SP in the country you are visiting.
Flights and Hotel or air BNB can run into $7000-$8000 anywhere in Europe for a week for 2 people and that doesn’t include food, entertainment or a bit of souvenir shopping. You can see many SP for that amount in Eastern Europe or Spain.
I would love to take my ATF on a vacation she is an amazing young lady, she is a friend she is fun to be with, if I was anywhere close to her age she would be in a lot of trouble lol.
There's a whole number of things I didn't get into for lack of time and which I still don't have time to address in detail..I wasn't exclusively talking about seeing someone locally at your destination either. I was also talking about taking companions from locales different from here to destinations foreign to both.
There are issues tied to up front costs, ongoing costs, what is refundable if anything, buyer's remorse options, sickness or indisposition, emergencies, how to select viable travel companions if you don't know them well, scheduling, visas, privacy issues tied to using real identities, etc. etc. There's a ton of stuff to consider
If people are interested I can go into more detail later today when I have more time.
There are issues tied to up front costs, ongoing costs, what is refundable if anything, buyer's remorse options, sickness or indisposition, emergencies, how to select viable travel companions if you don't know them well, scheduling, visas, privacy issues tied to using real identities, etc. etc. There's a ton of stuff to consider
If people are interested I can go into more detail later today when I have more time.
I went down south twice for a week with two girls, and I only paid for the trip and activities outside the hotel. There, we were like a couple on vacation, having sex every day.
The important thing is that I had a really good connection with these girls; saw her many times before, we became friends, and that's why the whole thing seemed okay to me.
I think paying extra for sex is excessive; I don't think it's worth it, and for me it would have ruined the vacation vibe, especially if it's with an independent escort who charges ridiculous prices (20k)
The important thing is that I had a really good connection with these girls; saw her many times before, we became friends, and that's why the whole thing seemed okay to me.
I think paying extra for sex is excessive; I don't think it's worth it, and for me it would have ruined the vacation vibe, especially if it's with an independent escort who charges ridiculous prices (20k)
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