Dinner date?

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Well, on this subject, i will wine, dine and even go to a special place for desert, i am not only doing this for them, its something i enjoy, and going to a nice restaurant with someone and enjoying good food and conversation, i cant really put a price on it, whether its a civilian or working girl. I can say its more enjoyable then being alone, well you can claim your a food critic just so you dont look like you have no friends.

Very well put.

 

[Maria Divina]

Maria Divina, you have a beautiful mind. I love reading you...

Oh thank you Jarhead, that's a very nice comment

 

[Maria Divina]

You said you like to understand how some people think. I will try to explain .
First I would never judge anybody negatively, we all have our faults and I have no reason to judge anybody.
What I have written is purely the way I feel which I understand will not be shared by most or maybe even anyone.

I have no problem with enjoying a glass of wine and a pleasant conversation during a session in fact It probably means more than the rest.
I also have no issues with taking anybody out to dinner be that friends, family or an SP.
Here is my issue, I look at paying for someone to talk to you and have dinner with you, similar to taking a pile of cash and stopping someone on the street and paying them to say all the nice and wonderful things you would want to hear about yourself.
I don't mind living and paying for a fantasy, the whole dinner part however for me is way over the top and would not make me feel good.
And again this is just the way I feel that does not mean that I don't respect anyone that does not share any of this or enjoys having dinner with an SP and paying for it.

Sam, I knew and understood exactly before writing my post to explain what is a dinner date and how it inhances an experience, that for you, your erotism is not stimulate or you think you won't have a better pleasure that what you already experiencing on Life.. I was not pointing to you exactly, I know, for years of debates on Merb that exist the "services only oriented gentlemen & ladies" and the others who are open and willing to connect more humanly, or want to connect in other possible levels to enhance for themselves, for their own pleasures. That's a selfish pleasure. For some gentlemen, there is something really good in their mind and heart doing this.
And it increases all the sensations after. So that's why I made a pale comparison to BDSM, because that's another way to increase your sensations after.

Oh, when I started my thread beginning by saying that I like to ask questions to help me understanding others...... That was a style of writing. In fact, to put things clearly, I was looking to find a way that others who don't understand US who are indulging in dinner dates could have a brief idea of what is the purpose of.

I imagine that you will need to live it once to feel the difference. But I guess it will give you nothing if you are a strict only services oriented person.

There are several shades of grey in this kind of special agreement. I am here to satisfy certain kinds of needs who are giving pleasures to a gentleman asking myself to be his companion. That's my pleasure to please, and certainly I will accept to share only agreeable moments of different kinds, an a dinner date is just a part of multiples possibilities.

And that's definitively not a "just pay for talking". That's part of the erotism of the encounter. I hope it is more clear for that part.

*please, I'm trying to type with a phone presently, it's just harder to verify my writing. Don't keep it against me :lol:

 

[rollingstone]

Wow so why are you here if you are not a hobbyist and don't intend to take the plunge? Is it for info on MPs and Strip clubs? Why would you even contribute to this thread?

 

[Maria Divina]

I imagine that you will need to live it once to feel the difference. But I guess it will give you nothing if you are a strict only services oriented :lol:

Maria,
Without knowing you have pinpointed my problem exactly.
To be perfectly honest I am anything but a strictly services oriented person.

I have never been with an Escort never needed to up until now.
If you read my previous post you will know why, I don't want to repeat it.
I struggle with the fact that I will turn into a person that can use a woman purely as an object to satisfy a sexual desire.
That is not what I am all about, I enjoy a women's company on all levels, but it has up until now always been because she wanted to be with me not because I was paying her to.
It is not about the money, it never will be, after all I can't take it with me, money is meant to buy things to improve your quality of life.
Perhaps I am not cut out for the escort world, who knows.
But if I do take the plunge and enter into this world, It would be nice to start with someone like you, who by all your posts seems to take genuine interest in her clients beyond just the obvious sexual encounter.

You quoted me with my "lol" face at a different place that I had put it, hummmm, looks strange now, because it's really far from me the idea to laugh or to look badly to people who are services oriented, because in fact, all possibilities are existing and I just don't mind, it doesn't change my reality at the end. Everybody is entitle to his or her boundaries. Some are able to give them all, others don't, in an adventure outside of a relationship. AND THAT'S FINE. The final idea is to live what please you and which with you are comfortable.

You don't have a problem, please don't believe that. Could we, in life, sincerely take a preference to do something of someone for a problem?

In fact, you just pointed yourself exactly what was my point. I will repeat my last sentence: Could we, in life, sincerely take a preference to do something of someone for a problem?
Much more when it comes when we are talking about private life. Because, yes, that's part of the private life, "du jardin secret".

I know exactly what you are living about

it has up until now always been because she wanted to be with me not because I was paying her to

We all have felt this, you're not the only one who say it, and the companion ladies are having a similar thought also adapted to their side of this reality.
So, you did not already take the plunge? I thought you had. But just to let you know one thing: nobody is cut out for the escort world when they come into life: however that's a deliberate choice of choosing the way we want to be part of it.

Thank you for your last sentence of your post, see, it looks like to meet someone who will not see you just as a "wallet" could make a difference for you. (that's what it is said about an escort who is just services oriented and don't want to sympatize at all, just a "wham bam thank you mam" style)

I think you sense more the idea than you may think. If you never had in life adventures with women you connected with but without deep feelings, just for the fun of it, it might be a bit difficult to imagine how it should be lived. I am not the only one who likes to connect, but when we are reading Merb, we could have the impression while reading some people that there is one way to meet, it seems there is a majority of members who are glorifying the "only services oriented" encounters. And for what I know, that's people who are deeply afraid to fall in love again, so, they don't want to take any chance at all, and to have just the impression it is too "romantic" to their tastes, it will be unbearable. They build a distance just to protect their pain/vulnerability, that's all. Maybe there are other reasons, but I did not find them yet. All the greatest XXX fans only oriented that I know are like that. Anyway, that's another topic.

 

[Mithridate]

Wow so why are you here if you are not a hobbyist and don't intend to take the plunge? Is it for info on MPs and Strip clubs? Why would you even contribute to this thread?

Hi
Please give this person a chance, if he didn't take the plunge yet, it is for very special reasons that I fully understand, since theses forums are for every one and help people who have yet took the plunge to have a better idea of what kind of world is going into, as for contribution to this board, I have been a merit for 13 years and i have only about 100 posts mainly in the years 2003-2007
Qapla
M

 

[Mithridate]

I have never been with an Escort never needed to up until now.
If you read my previous post you will know why, I don't want to repeat it.
I struggle with the fact that I will turn into a person that can use a woman purely as an object to satisfy a sexual desire.
That is not what I am all about, I enjoy a women's company on all levels, but it has up until now always been because she wanted to be with me not because I was paying her to.
It is not about the money, it never will be, after all I can't take it with me, money is meant to buy things to improve your quality of life.
Perhaps I am not cut out for the escort world, who knows.
But if I do take the plunge and enter into this world, It would be nice to start with someone like you, who by all your posts seems to take genuine interest in her clients beyond just the obvious sexual encounter.

Hi Sam
There is always a first time, and before 1996 as you, I never needed it, but my life changed
When you say that you will turn into a person who will se an SP as an object for sexual desire, I can understand that especially if you have never took the plunge, but these fine ladies, especially independent have chosen to do this kind of work, when you are with them it is the attitude, yours and hers that make an encounter so blissful, you can search for some who like to exchange emails before, to know you a bit and vice et versa, and believe me after a couple of times you forget the donation and you will not see them as object, there are gems out there, I know a few, especially one, and god knows the term GFE experience take is full meaning even within the boundaries of these encounters that are "sans attaches et libres"
One day you will have to build a wall between being with someone as a wife, girlfriend and an SP, believe me, dating to find someone you will love and cherish at our ages is very complex, and sometime I give up, I prefer to enjoy the company of ladies, either for social time , dinner time , overnight, or a week end, and there is more , much more then just the physical aspect, you have tenderness, sensuality, etc, that cannot be faked, sure there is a price, but now, in the present, for me, it is irrelevant, and I do it as much as my financial status can permit me, sorry for bad english, but i think you got the point
Qapla
J

 

[rollingstone]

Nothing wrong with gathering info, but contributing to the topic of this thread 'dinner date' is like me never owning a dog and then going to a dog forum and discussing the pros and cons of owning a rottweiler vs a doberman.

I was once a newbie and gathered info and asked questions (like the original poster in this thread), but I did not start arguing about social time vs private time with an escort without having ever spent time with one.

 

[Numerati]

Well you guys have your way of interacting with women and qualifying them which is great. I have my own. I am someone who is always testing woman sometimes on purpose sometimes it is not so that is how I gauge things to see if she is worth dealing with long term. SP or not. As long you guys are doing it with respect for her and yourself that is cool. I don't know what is the right or wrong way and honestly I don't think there is any. Just what works for you.

 

[Guillaume]

You better make sure that your lady has some conversation otherwise your dinner will be pretty boring. To spice-up the meal, you can always ask her to go to the washroom and remove her panty and have her place it in your pocket in front of everyone.
I also remember a high end one who took the guy to the washroom at le Latini and gave him a blow job in the ladies rooms. Every women who went there came back telling everyone. There was a rush to the basement. When she came back the SP had a big smile on her face and showed her middle finger to everyone in the restaurant. What a trooper. She was one of FKS top ladies.