Dinner dates and overnights

[LC18]

In short: "Don't forget I'm running a business here"

Yep and I’d personally feel less insulted if someone asked for a discount than if someone asked for a free fancy dinner.

I might reconsider if it’s a place that’s out of my budget like Toqué!, Europea, Okeya Kyujiro or Mousso but unless I already know the man it’s very unlikely

 

[AirBo]

I am sure that a lot of SPs will offer this to their loyal clients.

One of the many reasons I enjoy repeating. I never expect a freebie of any kind at any time, but I do get the odd one once in a while, and it's very much appreciated.

 

[Julia Sky]

I 100% agree with you, but as in your example these are existing clients with whom you already have a business relationship with . It's just partner management 101. I am sure that a lot of SPs will offer this to their loyal clients but they would not be advertising this publicly to potential new ones.

There's also the fact that companionship is quite literally what our service is all about. Yes I'm sure people in all types of businesses go for free dinners with clients, but that's because companionahship isn't part of the service offered. If a programmer had a business meeting/dinner with a client, I highly doubt that would also come with two free websites and a free app. It's just different businesses, in our case a free dinner IS free labor/service. Lol

And you're spot on - we are human beings, of course some escorts do go eat with their favorites "off the clock". It's just not advertised because it's at the discretion of everyone involved, and it isn't about client retention, as that typically would only happen with clients we trust and are already quite close with and have seen often.

 

[LC18]

Julia, I go the extra mile for my business partners.

That reminds me of this dude from the Fyre festival

 

[ThunderLipps]

I 100% agree with you, but as in your example these are existing clients with whom you already have a business relationship with. It's just partner management 101. I am sure that a lot of SPs will offer this to their loyal clients but they would not be advertising this publicly to potential new ones.

Just my opinion but it could be profitable for the future. When I see indys on MERB giving specials I am guessing business is slow, instead of dropping their rates offer a dinner plan with the same rate, the two ladies I met would probably not got my business if that was not in their ad. The person in Calgary wanted the dinner plan all the time and the one in Calgary was 50/50 and both were first time customers.
The business relationship I had was with business clients not SPs.

 

[Zero_Six]

I remember a few years ago, someone couldn’t afford to book me for an overnight so he booked me late at night for a few hours and early in the morning for a few hours. He kept his hotel room unlocked and asked me to join him in bed in the morning.

It was super sweet.

One of my happiest memories is waking up to a beautiful woman cuddled up to me and still sleeping. I just laid there for an hour admiring her and enjoying the warmth. She was not an SP though (was a one-night stand) and I can't justify spending that much for an overnight booking. I might have to try out your client's strategy some day.

 

[LC18]

So you would go on dinner dates with SPs and have overnight dates with them if it was free?

Why are you upset that other people have more disposable income than you and can afford to do something that makes them happy?


I wish I could afford to buy a R8 and I know it’s crazy to spend that much money on a car while a Civic would also take me from point A to point B. But that’s an experience and that something wealthier people than me can afford. Both are ok, being happy to drive a Civic and being happy to drive a R8 should both be respected

 

[LeDodo]

So you would go on dinner dates with SPs and have overnight dates with them if it was free?

Why are you upset that other people have more disposable income than you and can afford to do something that makes them happy?


I wish I could afford to buy a R8 and I know it’s crazy to spend that much money on a car while a Civic would also take me from point A to point B. But that’s an experience and that something wealthier people than me can afford. Both are ok, being happy to drive a Civic and being happy to drive a R8 should both be respected

Free dinner date? I wouldn't see why not except not having the time.

Upset about other people "wealthness" is more like one of the 7 sins: envy.

Wealthy is about setting happiness goals and not dwelling on others goals. Because you are chasing something not in your reach or at least for now.

 

[Tor1393]

I have gone to dinner with SP's. I have after a session, on occasion, offered. Some have taken me up on the offer. I wont pay someone to eat dinner with me. I personally find
that depressing so I wont do it. I will pay for the dinner obviously and go to a really nice place if they want. If they find you interesting, they will likely come if they are not busy.
Im OK with it either way.

 

[LC18]

I have gone to dinner with SP's. I have after a session, on occasion, offered. Some have taken me up on the offer. I wont pay someone to eat dinner with me. I personally find
that depressing so I wont do it. I will pay for the dinner obviously and go to a really nice place if they want. If they find you interesting, they will likely come if they are not busy.
Im OK with it either way.

If that works for you

 

[Zero_Six]

So you would go on dinner dates with SPs and have overnight dates with them if it was free?

Why are you upset that other people have more disposable income than you and can afford to do something that makes them happy?


I wish I could afford to buy a R8 and I know it’s crazy to spend that much money on a car while a Civic would also take me from point A to point B. But that’s an experience and that something wealthier people than me can afford. Both are ok, being happy to drive a Civic and being happy to drive a R8 should both be respected

Free date? I'd love to, thanks!

I don't hate anyone purely because they have more money than me. I hate income inequality and that people aren't paid accordingly. I was an "essential" (expendable) worker during covid. Shit would've gotten ugly quick if me and my coworkers didn't show up and do our work. The corporate bosses all stayed home because they weren't needed. So why are they making more in a month (week?) than I do in a year (probably multiple years)? These CEOs and such are likely the people paying for FMTY and weekend dates. I'm not upset about how they spend their money, I'm upset about how the got the money.

“A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members.” - Mahatma Ghandi
Most of the rich people I've known are selfish, greedy, entitled, arrogant pricks that would rather buy themselves a 10K watch than give a homeless person $1. While they drive around in their R8 or whatever, our city is crumbling and people are living on the streets.

All that being said, if I were making that sort of money I'd book overnights and dinner dates pretty often. I might feel guilty at first, but I'm sure over time I'd be able to convince myself that I was better than other people and deserved to do as I please.

Thank you for attending my abridged Ted Talk. I could ramble on a lot more about how fucked up our society is but I'd just bore everyone, myself included.

 

[UncleBob]

If I would be wealthy I would still not pay for social time with a SP for a first date.
But if she would be an ATF, I would probably.
For an ATF, I would probably pay for social date with no sex... I might even pay her gifts once in a while. Help her with her rent...
Might even buy her a Car lol...

But I'm not wealthy but still, I recall I went for lunch with ATFs few times (but very few times) and of course I paid for the meals and drinks but NOT for Social time.
The only time I pay for social time is if I finish early for a 1 hre sex session and we chat for the rest of the time.

I got ATFs I've had paid sex with (1 hre date never more) for many years and even if I don't PAY for social date, I did offert them my free time like free car rides, help them freely to move furniture to new appartments, I gave them gifts at their birthday... Like good friends do...
I never received nor expected gifts or free ride from them but I like to think it helped for the "milage" haha.
I certainly got more time than the 1H I paid for to chat with them before or after the session...

 

[Tor1393]

Uncle bob
that is exactly how it went with me and socially going out with certain SP's. I would often mention the restuarants or shows I was attending and they would want to come along. It was social time, so I didint pay. I would then buy an hour of their professional time afterwards. Seemed like everyone was happy.
Nuff said

 

[EastWind]

Dinner date for me serves a certain purpose in this hobby. It is the last time I am seeing her and this is my big thank you for our paths crossing. There is one thing I learn about this hobby is to leave when you KNOW you have reached the ultimate with her. I am not someone who likes to see some girl for years and years. After two or three encounters I have to let her go. A dinner date is the sweet good bye and closure.

 

[Zzyzx]

When I have a favorite SW I'll offer her to go to dinner before or after our regular appointment.

Just last week I had dinner at Bellucci Italia before going to see Bonobo at M-Telus, an incredible night.

I like to make a girl happy. But she has to make a choice:

-Be happy because I treated her to a memorable dinner date that I planned with incredible attention and generosity.

-Be happy because I pay her time

It can't be both.

 

[LeDodo]

So you would go on dinner dates with SPs and have overnight dates with them if it was free?

Why are you upset that other people have more disposable income than you and can afford to do something that makes them happy?


I wish I could afford to buy a R8 and I know it’s crazy to spend that much money on a car while a Civic would also take me from point A to point B. But that’s an experience and that something wealthier people than me can afford. Both are ok, being happy to drive a Civic and being happy to drive a R8 should both be respected

I just read all the comments and find the topic interesting.

I think from the client perspective you are paying for a service so you expect that every pennies serve a purpose.
E.g. 1h GFE = 1h or so intimacy

I can understand the thought or financial logic to say no to pay to literally sleep with someone (@Sylar I'm also an Asian fellow ).

But to convince one to this idea would be to see the premium of going to bed together, cuddling, pillow talk, admiring how beautiful she is, slowly getting up, etc.
But to take the plunge I think the prerequisite would be a good vibe with her initially and a certain level of comfort being together.

As per the provider's perspective, the financial aspect is kind of obvious: my time=your money as well as the logistics to make it happen. Maybe the acronym YMMV might be applied here for the rate or social time

Silly question: when does the donation happen? I would assume right before the encounter and that all discussions around the inclusions happened before.

 

[philonius]

Men read “overnight” and only think about the sleeping portion. Think about everything that comes before and after the sleeping part.

Laughing, teasing each other about their getting ready to bed routine, having sex one last time, not needing to go back home. Next morning is pillow talk, sex and just relaxing.

Who cares what happens at night, you’re asleep anyway. If you talk about it before you could agree on having sex in the middle of the night

I've only ever done one overnight and it was so much fun. It feels so good to finish a wonderful session, relax, maybe eat a meal, knowing a 2nd (or 3rd/4th) rush of libido is about to follow through but you still have time with them. It feels even better to wake up, look over and see cute cheeks peeking out of the side of the sheets, and instantly get horny. Little romp, breakfast and everyone leaves satiated is a million times better than the awkward walk down a quiet hallway after a normal session.
I think sometimes the economics of them don't make sense (if the overnight rate/hr is close to their normal hourly) bc then some people wouldn't be able to relax fully, thinking they have to maximize their time or something, but most sps take that into account and price accordingly. It was a bucket list item for me, even if I didn't know it at the time.

 

[LC18]

I've only ever done one overnight and it was so much fun. It feels so good to finish a wonderful session, relax, maybe eat a meal, knowing a 2nd (or 3rd/4th) rush of libido is about to follow through but you still have time with them. It feels even better to wake up, look over and see cute cheeks peeking out of the side of the sheets, and instantly get horny. Little romp, breakfast and everyone leaves satiated is a million times better than the awkward walk down a quiet hallway after a normal session.
I think sometimes the economics of them don't make sense (if the overnight rate/hr is close to their normal hourly) bc then some people wouldn't be able to relax fully, thinking they have to maximize their time or something, but most sps take that into account and price accordingly. It was a bucket list item for me, even if I didn't know it at the time.

I think an overnight is probably one of the only dates I’ve given a generous reduction on for people I see often and like because the sleeping portion can be a deterrent for some

 

[mat514]

I have my first overnight today

 

[Fradi]

I have a first overnight today

Don’t forget the ear muffs, they often snore.