Do you post reviews?

[mwvisitor]

My two cents

I as well only make it to Montreal a few times a year. I try and give reviews so that others like my getting into the hobby will be able to make an educated choice. I have posted a few negative and or neutral reviews but when I had a good time I post it. I have left two reviews for one certain SP but these were two different occasions and the second review had new and or different information. I am here the rest of the week and hope to post a couple more reviews before I leave town. Keep the reviews going.

 

[johnmbot]

Am i missing something?

it's a great idea. but who would pay the reviewers? receiving $ from an agency is a conflict of interest. professional movie critics are not paid by the movie studios. they are paid by media companies. ok, so some media outlets are owned by movie studios, but the critics are far enough removed from them and have a reputation to protect.

a solution would be to have a paid subscription site like merb, and some of the revenue is used to pay a staff of reviewers incognito.

it ain't perfect and is ripe for corruption, but what the hell can you expect when there's sex involved...

 

[Montreal Sex City]

Reading some of the comments posted above has made me wonder what would be so wrong if some of the more credible veterans would get renumerated for posting reviews. I mean, we all know that movie critics such as Roger Ebert & Leonard Maltin, among many others, get paid quite well for writing movie reviews. They probably even get in free at the movies they review. Quite often, people (like me) will decide whether or not we'll go see those movies depending on the reviews we've read. Positive movie reviews by credible movie critics can often bring in millions of $$ for a certain movie. The producers get rich, the film studio gets richer, and everyone involved with the movie is happy.

When it comes to the escort business, the reviewers are not receiving anything, and if they do, it's kept under wraps. How dare they? Meanwhile, the more positive the reviews, the more popular the new girls become, meaning more money for the girls & especially for their 'agencies'. Everyone is getting richer, except for the poor sap who shelled out hundreds of $$$ and then since he's a nice fellow, he writes a glowing review, sometimes it's his own choice, other times it's encouraged by the sp(s) and the agencies.

Am i missing something?

Doc,

For me the solution must be simple, or it is me that is missing something

An agency, staff, girls, clients, results. For an agency's business, wich is also
girls's business, the reviews does make the difference.

Now, let's say it diplomately, if you gentlemen don't get the right sense of what
is going on, you're not in business neither.

True, not everything can be controled and we know how it ends.

But why hidding things, why pushing here and there, why just
not let others know and then from the ''oh so newbies'' stick
to those you trust ? I mean ...

I was thinking the other day, people that where reviewing me, well just like me,
that gain in age and you what, I came to the conclusion that eventually,
they won't be around anymore

Well, actually, just like girls, they come and go

But business will go on,
so keep on the contributions for the best of your interests.

 

[Touch]

CocaCola,

Yes, when one can only visit occasionally one tends to build up expectations based on positive reviews. Some escorts are more consistent the others and virtually always deliver a good time and others let their less than perfect moods at the time dictate their behavior. Actually booking 2hrs isn’t so much optimistic as insurance: I have often used the extra time to “save” what started off as less than perfect and turn it around emotionally. Also time issues such as being a little bit late or an extra long shower are less important in the context of two hours than one, I find.

Criticism of negative reviews can be a problem. I once posted a moderately negative review of an escort who had almost all very good reviews. This brought “push back” responses from posters who had earlier positive experiences. In this case the escort suddenly changed her services for the worst. The agency owner had been suddenly getting a lot of negative PRIVATE feedback but this was not showing up on the board; he had to fire her and commendably explained on the board that one of his best girls suddenly had changed. This did clarify the situation eventually, but it took some time to sort itself out. Even so, some posters just don’t accept that escorts can suddenly change (“burn out”) and the first person to write a negative review will take a lot of heat.

After that I have shied away from writing negative reviews of escorts who have had mostly positive review histories. Actually, I do feel a bit guilty about that. Some escorts are just emotionally inconsistent and that probably should be put on the record although it might generate “heat.” People like you and I who visit only rarely like to know who has gotten good reviews but also how consistent they are. In that sense: the more reviews that are written (good, bad or mediocre or average experiences) the better!

Touch

 

[Touch]

Doc,

Movie reviews are a good analogy. Basically one reads around a lot and finds someone whom one usually agrees with, comparing their reviews and one’s own experience of the movies. But once one finds a helpful reviewer, does one care where their money comes from? (Actually, from experience I found I most often agree with Roger Ebert.) Do I care a bit whether he gets free dinners or other perks? No, Not in the least, as long as he keeps writing reviews that are helpful! Likewise with escort reviewers, does one really care about anything else other than are his reviews helpful to you the individual reader? You shouldn’t!

Isolated reviews are very difficult to assess. There isn’t too much else to do but wait for additional information to come in about the escort or the reviewer. But everyone has to start somewhere, so new beginnings should be encouraged! On the other hand true shills, who would write anything for profit irrespective of the truth, are true scourges. Hopefully their blatant misdirection is soon apparent, identified and sanctioned.

Touch

 

[Doc Holliday]

it's a great idea. but who would pay the reviewers? receiving $ from an agency is a conflict of interest. professional movie critics are not paid by the movie studios. they are paid by media companies. ok, so some media outlets are owned by movie studios, but the critics are far enough removed from them and have a reputation to protect.

I omitted to mention in my post that publishing companies (e.g. Chicago Sun-Times) and other media outlets make money from reviews written by the likes of Ebert, Roper & Maltin, among others. Yes, i agree that many media outlets are in bed with many movie studios & tv networks (yes, there are tv show reviews also). So the money being paid to the reviewers does come from various sources.

What's the answer? I have no idea. The boards do receive revenue in the forms of advertisement space. The boards do profit from reviews, or else why would an agency or sp want to advertise? If there is an answer to the question, i suppose that it's those profiting from the reviews who should be shelling out some of the $$ to the reviewers, even though it's rather obvious that this has already been done in the past (and probably in the present) by various means...free hours, discounts, etc. Even in other forms such as accompanying a 'john' to a hockey game or concert & giving them a 'bonus' afterwards. It's not a suggestion, it's been done before. The key would be that the people offering 'bonuses' should not expect the review to be 100% positive. It would be an honest review. Maybe they could all contribute to a 'fund' of some kind & the renumeration side of things could be made possible by using that fund. How about a reviews-of-the-month contest where the top reviews would be compensated? It would encourage more reviews be written & people might pay more attention when writing them, thus increasing the quality of the reviews. Just throwing a few ideas....

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Or maybe they now feel like saying "what's in it for us?" Or, they heard that their reviews have led a few psychos/assholes/sexual deviants to see some of their favorite girls.

I used to write quite a few reviews and quite enjoyed it. I know from the feedback I got from others that my work was well reviewed. When my personal life became the obsession of a certain few psycho/asshole. He's been banned here for a couple of years, but my sense is that he still spends a considerable amount of time reading this board.

My hobbying activities have been reduced to a trickle, but maybe I'll start reviewing soon. I have met a couple of girls this year deserving of some praise.

 

[JustBob]

I write DVD/Blu-ray reviews. I don't get paid but the studios provide the material.

So if you want me to write SP reviews...

 

[johnmbot]

How about a reviews-of-the-month contest where the top reviews would be compensated? It would encourage more reviews be written & people might pay more attention when writing them, thus increasing the quality of the reviews.

t[FONT=&quot]hat`s a good idea, yet, like all good ideas, they look great on paper... then greedy bastards & fucktards always end up fucking things up.

here is my proposal - https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=435090&postcount=1
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[Merlot]

>> EDITED BY MOD 11: 10-19 quotation removed. <<<

The ladies must be getting a lot of laughs reading how clients now want to be compensated in some way or paid directly for their reviews. It's also amusing how this demand correlates with the bad economy and/or the loss of access to certain bonus funds for some. Once when the well of funding was ample the frivolous all out free-spending sort narry gave concern in the least for what escorts made. The cash was just shoveled over...freely. Now grudges against escorts profiting from reviews has risen in proportion to the drying of the cash well. Do we call this hypocrisy or just an expedient adjustment to financial reality.

I can see how some can honestly believe clients deserve a cut. There is a certain business logic to it. But when I think how much pressure clients push escorts to provide more and more extreme and risky services I find it amusing that the clients now want a cut of the money from the great risks they impose on these ladies. But others seem to just be concocting self-serving views out of their belly aching over economic and financial realities.

I have had to cut back also. I do get to enjoy my encounters as much as ever, and by carefully picking the right lady I often enjoy each encounter more than in the past. But though I wish I could afford as many encounters as before I chose not to whine about having to cut back. I won't put myself in the position of saying what had been the right way of doing business before is now all wrong just because current economics, or as with some, just because restricted access to former resources has made it much more difficult for them to maintain the former level of excessive frivolity, and now try to use 'board pressure" to make up the difference. Well, sucks to be you. Cowboy up.



Cheers,

Merlot

PS

 

[CS Martin]

I used to write quite a few reviews and quite enjoyed it. I know from the feedback I got from others that my work was well reviewed. When my personal life became the obsession of a certain few psycho/asshole. He's been banned here for a couple of years, but my sense is that he still spends a considerable amount of time reading this board.

My hobbying activities have been reduced to a trickle, but maybe I'll start reviewing soon. I have met a couple of girls this year deserving of some praise.

You use the phrase "few psycho/asshole" as in the multiple, more than one. Then the phrase "He's been banned here for a couple of years". Those who do a double take at this description, wondering what you mean, should realize that individual has to have multiples to fit his personality & ego. I don't really think he has the "balls" for it though.

 

[eastender]

Official Status

>>> EDITED BY MOD 11: Quotation regarding 10-19 removed. <<<

The ladies must be getting a lot of laughs reading how clients now want to be compensated in some way or paid directly for their reviews. It's also amusing how this demand correlates with the bad economy and/or the loss of access to certain bonus funds for some. Once when the well of funding was ample the frivolous all out free-spending sort narry gave concern in the least for what escorts made. The cash was just shoveled over...freely. Now grudges against escorts profiting from reviews has risen in proportion to the drying of the cash well. Do we call this hypocrisy or just an expedient adjustment to financial reality.

I can see how some can honestly believe clients deserve a cut. There is a certain business logic to it. But when I think how much pressure clients push escorts to provide more and more extreme and risky services I find it amusing that the clients now want a cut of the money from the great risks they impose on these ladies. But others seem to just be concocting self-serving views out of their belly aching over economic and financial realities.

I have had to cut back also. I do get to enjoy my encounters as much as ever, and by carefully picking the right lady I often enjoy each encounter more than in the past. But though I wish I could afford as many encounters as before I chose not to whine about having to cut back. I won't put myself in the position of saying what had been the right way of doing business before is now all wrong just because current economics, or as with some, just because restricted access to former resources has made it much more difficult for them to maintain the former level of excessive frivolity, and now try to use 'board pressure" to make up the difference. Well, sucks to be you. Cowboy up.



Cheers,

Merlot

PS

Suspect that 10-19 is looking for "Official Reviewer Status" from the UTDSQ or other significant groups.

 

[john_eh_mcduff]

Not a good idea.

I only read the posts on this page. It's an interesting topic. Too bad the posts have turned into arguments and name calling, but it's one more reason why I think the idea of a paid reviewer wouldn't work. If a paid and recognized reviewer posts a raving review and suddenly another member with many posts & experience writes a very negative one and an argument follows, who are we to believe? In addition, it involves ego, and yes I will include myself in that to be fair because no reviewer want to have their opinion contradicted, they might think it reflects badly on them and their taste in women.

More imporantly, this industry does not operate under the same rules and constraints as public companies do. Also placing too much power in even the most honest of members when the tempation of money and sex is involved is enough to corrupt anyone. So to my ears & eyes, this sounds like an unworkable idea.

Why complicate things. We all know how this works it's not magic. Agency, independent and client. Those are the players. It's simple, the client books an appointment. Has the experience, writes a review. If it's positive, this is helpful and maybe the agency owner might give us some preference on availability or something, but we can't expect that. If it's a negative review, well usually the good agencies and independents try to resolve it with the client and they hope that makes them appear reasonable and responsible (good reputation)and maybe the client will give them more business in the future, or they will attract other clients as a result, but they can't expect that either.

Then there are the extremes on both the client and agency/indy sides who try to get something for nothing, but those people seem to be in the minority on this board. One thing is for certain, if they can't be reasonable, then why do business with them and move on to deal with more positive people.

Just my opinion, you are free to disagree.
Yes I post reviews, sharing experiences will help each other and let the agencies/indy's know if they are doing a good job or if some improvement is needed.

Done.

John

 

[UNDFTD]

Reading some of the comments posted above has made me wonder what would be so wrong if some of the more credible veterans would get renumerated for posting reviews.

That just seems eerily similar to leveraging an agency for a discount fearing a bad review. A slippery slope to the "extortion" discussion a while back. I see no difference between a credible veteran being renumerated for posting a review or anybody threatening a bad review for a discount. Right or wrong.

btw...what's a "credible veteran"? Seems quaint. lol

 

[Halloween Mike]

I kind of threat this like an ebay deal, when you buy something on ebay, you give the seller good feedback in everything went good. If he take too much time to ship, or ship wrong item and such, you have a chance to talk to him about that(like you can do with agencies) and if nothing fix you can put negative feedback.

So i guess its similar to this with escort review, i don't think we should get paid to review...it would false the review...

Personally reviews help me A LOT in my choice of girls, so since i apreciate them everytime i see a girl, i review, but i don't see much girls, one every 2-3 months, so i do what i can to help

 

[Mike Mercury]

45 people responded to the poll.

50% have reviewed 10+ times.
80% have reviewed 3+ times.
90% have reviewed 1+ times
10% have zero reviews.

Make sense? Yes if one assumes that people that don't go to SPs don't answer polls and people that don't review don't answer polls.

 

[JH Fan]

Many reasons told already including the NRP thread.

Long time ago I used to review all of them.
I wasn't into writing a book like cockasian but at least I was trying to emulate Lion Heart a bit.

Nowadays ? Dunno 'bout you but readin' 10 pages back and forth to know if I should or not review means simply 'No review' for me.

As many said before 'why review a superb SP' when it can spoil it for me

After all we live in a f*ng individualist system !

Problem for me with this NRP is... this forum used to be for guys who were sharing info.
Then we started to be 'politicaly correct' and be cool with the ladies.

I'm not saying it's bad but... don't expect that it will ever come back like it used to be !

 

[Mod 8]

Hello JH Fan and everyone else,

MERB is what it's members make it. If no one posts reviews then they have no right to complain about the lack of such. Once again someone mentions the NRP thread. Do you actually believe that the other board does not do the same thing when requested to? The only difference is that here we are up front about it and have a thread to notify our members of the situation. Elsewhere, the reviews and all mention of the lady just vanishes with no notification to the members. Which do you prefer?

I am honestly fed up with accusations and insinuations of coverups and editing of posts or the use of the NRP to hide from bad reviews. You want proof that we do not do that? Fine. Anyone who will donate a significant amount of money to a worthwhile charity to be decided upon, I will meet you and show you every post that has ever been removed from this board. Put your money where your mouth is or shut up. Any more posts complaining about the NRP will result in a very long ban. We have had this discussion too many times and anyone who has questions about it can look up the old threads on the subject or communicate directly with a mod who will be happy to answer your questions. But I have finally had it with this constant bullshit and bitching being posted on the board because it serves no purpose but to make members doubt the honesty and integrity of MERB and it's moderators and it ends now. If you do not believe that we are as fair and as transparent about our decisions as possible, then you are free to leave.

As far as your reviews are concerned, you are free to be as explicit as you desire with them as long as you are respectful in your post. Just because others may have changed their style does not prohibit you from writing your review in the way you choose.

No one has the right to complain about the lack of information if they are one of the people who is not sharing any. If no one shares any information and only comes here to find it, how long do you think this board will continue? If anyone is not satisfied with the amount of reviews being posted, you only have yourselves to blame. No one else.

Mod 8

Many reasons told already including the NRP thread.

Long time ago I used to review all of them.
I wasn't into writing a book like cockasian but at least I was trying to emulate Lion Heart a bit.

Nowadays ? Dunno 'bout you but readin' 10 pages back and forth to know if I should or not review means simply 'No review' for me.

As many said before 'why review a superb SP' when it can spoil it for me

After all we live in a f*ng individualist system !

Problem for me with this NRP is... this forum used to be for guys who were sharing info.
Then we started to be 'politicaly correct' and be cool with the ladies.

I'm not saying it's bad but... don't expect that it will ever come back like it used to be !

 

[Jman47]

Hello JH Fan and everyone else,

I am honestly fed up with accusations and insinuations of coverups and editing of posts or the use of the NRP to hide from bad reviews. You want proof that we do not do that? Fine. Anyone who will donate a significant amount of money to a worthwhile charity to be decided upon, I will meet you and show you every post that has ever been removed from this board. Put your money where your mouth is or shut up. Any more posts complaining about the NRP will result in a very long ban. We have had this discussion too many times and anyone who has questions about it can look up the old threads on the subject or communicate directly with a mod who will be happy to answer your questions. But I have finally had it with this constant bullshit and bitching being posted on the board because it serves no purpose but to make members doubt the honesty and integrity of MERB and it's moderators and it ends now. If you do not believe that we are as fair and as transparent about our decisions as possible, then you are free to leave.
Mod 8

Well said Mod 8.
Keep up the great work.

 

[JH Fan]

Hey Mod ?

I think you just blew your top... assuming a lot out of my posting which isn't there !
As for me not sharing ? mmm...