favorite current tv series...

[EagerBeaver]

I heard the new Lord of the Rings show on Prime has a even bigger budget than Stranger Things.

Apparently most expensive show ever to be made.

Correct, $58.1 million per episode for LOR vs. $30 million for Stranger Things - the 2 most expensive TV shows of all time:

The Rings of Power's cost per episode makes it most expensive TV series ever

The Rings of Power always promised to have an eye-watering budget but its cost per episode makes it the most expensive TV show by far.

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I read another article on the production costs and lengthy, movie like run times of Season 4 of Stranger Things. The Duffer Brothers said they had to do an analysis on why the production costs and runtimes were so high. They concluded that: (1) their writing style had evolved since season 1 to become more descriptive and (2) the subplot with Hopper in Russia added to the lengthy storylines and production costs. They say season 5 will be a return to the simplicity of the episode structure of season 1, with similar episode lengths and a focus on the original cast characters.

So basically what the Duffers are saying is they are not going to be having the same production costs on season 5.

I did think the viewers got their money's worth from the increased production costs of season 4 of ST. Whether season 1 of LOR gets a similar return of investment and viewer satisfaction from their expenditure of $58.1 million per episode is for you guys to decide. I haven't see LOR yet.

 

[gaby]

Hum...i watched first episode LOR.....way way toooo much for me...lol.....really not my thing......BUT have enjoyed a lot HOUSE OF THE DRAGON last night.

 

[Numerati]

I will probably get into House of Dragon maybe a few seasons in. Just like Game of Thrones as I didn’t get into it until around Season 6.

LOL. I didn't get into the Game of Thrones until I saw a few clips of King Joffrey on youtuve and I hated his guts. Then saw the Purple Wedding and that became the first point that sparked my interest. The second was getting acquainted with Tyrion and his brilliance and quick witty comebacks.

 

[charmer_]

Hum...i watched first episode LOR.....way way toooo much for me.

Yeah but did you enjoy the films/books before that?

 

[Numerati]

Lost in Space.

Very well made. Only four seasons but you are at the edge of your seat in every episode. Does not disappoint at all.

 

[charmer_]

Film actors used to look down on TV series. TV for years was referred to as the "boob tube." (boob as in for stupid people.) But shows like Breaking Bad changed this narrative.

Actually, the show that really changed the TV narrative was The Sopranos (1999)...nine years before Breaking Bad (2008).

And it's still arguably the best TV series ever. I love Breaking Bad as well...but can't beat the GOAT, imho.

 

[gaby]

Yeah but did you enjoy the films/books before that?

No....not really my world....lol...

 

[cloudsurf]

Actually, the show that really changed the TV narrative was The Sopranos (1999)...nine years before Breaking Bad (2008).

And it's still arguably the best TV series ever. I love Breaking Bad as well...but can't beat the GOAT, imho.

I`d go back even further to Star Trek .

 

[EagerBeaver]

Actually, the show that really changed the TV narrative was The Sopranos (1999)...nine years before Breaking Bad (2008).

And it's still arguably the best TV series ever. I love Breaking Bad as well...but can't beat the GOAT, imho.

Others have mentioned Mad Men, and The Wire as the best TV series of all time. I think those 2 shows certainly belong in any objective top 10.

If this question was asked back in around 1980, many people felt that "All In The Family" was the best TV show of all time through that date. I would say that either that show or "MASH" were the top shows of the 1970s.

For the 1960s, in addition to "Star Trek", which was an iconic show, I would mention 2 others: The Fugitive, and The Prisoner. The final episode of The Fugitive in 1967 was the most watched episode in the history of television for a very long time. The Prisoner only lasted 1 season/17 episodes, but it's a truly brilliant show and the final episode was among the most discussed final episodes of all time. Batman was the first TV show to combine live action and animation and was quite creative, though it was campy and not taken seriously by TV critics at the time, but is now considered creative for its era.

The Cosby Show was probably the most successful TV show of the 1980s, but nobody will say that now because of the demonization of Bill Cosby for his various alleged criminal behaviors which came to light years later.

For the 1990s, Seinfeld and X Files.

For the time period 2000-2022/21st century, I go with Mad Men, The Wire, Breaking Bad, and Better Call Saul. Regarding the Sopranos, as I never got HBO, I never watched it, but it is my father's favorite TV show of all time, and he has seen all the ones I mentioned, so it has to be on the short list. I did see the Netflix Sopranos spin-off "Lillehammer", all 3 seasons, and I enjoyed it.

 

[Skym]

I will probably get into House of Dragon maybe a few seasons in. Just like Game of Thrones as I didn’t get into it until around Season 6.

LOL. I didn't get into the Game of Thrones until I saw a few clips of King Joffrey on youtuve and I hated his guts. Then saw the Purple Wedding and that became the first point that sparked my interest. The second was getting acquainted with Tyrion and his brilliance and quick witty comebacks.

I couldnt get into Game of Thrones. I have so many complaints about the show. Like..

I can't stand how there's so many dislikable characters on the show. There's noone to root for, which killed my interest in the show.

 

[Numerati]

I couldnt get into Game of Thrones. I have so many complaints about the show. Like..

I can't stand how there's so many dislikable characters on the show. There's noone to root for, which killed my interest in the show.

Yeah I wasn't much of a fan of the show for a good while and I just couldn't get into it for a few years because it was so darn complicated and people I know who got into it had to take notes. I am like WTF? Not my kind of show.

Then I discovered this on youtube. I am like okay this is some deep stuff and I could learn a thing on two surprisingly. That was how I truly got into it. 3 Psychological Tricks To Get What You Want - YouTube

Then comes Season 8 and I am like talk about ruining something great.

 

[Skym]

Yeah I wasn't much of a fan of the show for a good while and I just couldn't get into it for a few years because it was so darn complicated and people I know who got into it had to take notes. I am like WTF? Not my kind of show.

Then I discovered this on youtube. I am like okay this is some deep stuff and I could learn a thing on two surprisingly. That was how I truly got into it. 3 Psychological Tricks To Get What You Want - YouTube

Then comes Season 8 and I am like talk about ruining something great.

Also...my 2nd complaint of Game of Thrones is that many characters in the show use modern cursing words like fuck, shit, etc and this is supposed to be a medieval fantasy show.

I doubt curse words like that existed in those times. That issue bothered me with the show.

 

[Numerati]

Not only that don't forget Poland Springs and Starbucks were in Westeros too as well. LOL.

 

[cloudsurf]

Also...my 2nd complaint of Game of Thrones is that many characters in the show use modern cursing words like fuck, shit, etc and this is supposed to be a medieval fantasy show.

I doubt curse words like that existed in those times. That issue bothered me with the show.

Would you rather they used Chaucer`s old english with sub-titles ?

 

[Skym]

Would you rather they used Chaucer`s old english with sub-titles ?

Yes, then its more authentic.

It's not a fair sentiment?

 

[charmer_]

I`d go back even further to Star Trek .

Star Trek (the original series) was a game changer for sure, in terms of television (I'm a huge Trekker). But I was talking more in terms of @GaryH's post about how television has reached the quality of movies and in some cases has even succeeded it.

A lot of people consider The Sopranos to be the show to break the stigma about television being "less good" than films in terms of production values, acting, etc. I'd put The Sopranos in the same category as Goodfellas and Casino any day.

And of course, now we're getting shows with great special effects we normally see in movies. It started with Game of Thrones, and now we get it with Westworld, the new Star Wars/Trek series', etc.

Others have mentioned Mad Men, and The Wire as the best TV series of all time. I think those 2 shows certainly belong in any objective top 10.
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For the time period 2000-2022/21st century, I go with Mad Men, The Wire, Breaking Bad, and Better Call Saul.

These shows are definitely comparable to The Sopranos. But they also came afterwards as well. The all time debate is whether The Sopranos or The Wire is the best show of all time. Both shows are amazing, but for me it's The Sopranos.

Mad Men is great. In fact the showrunner (Matthew Weiner) was a writer and executive producer for The Sopranos before that.

Regarding the Sopranos, as I never got HBO, I never watched it, but it is my father's favorite TV show of all time.

You definitely should @EagerBeaver. Not only is it one of the best in terms of crime drama, it also can be pretty damned funny too.

I did see the Netflix Sopranos spin-off "Lillehammer", all 3 seasons, and I enjoyed it.

Lillehammer has absolutely nothing to do with The Sopranos apart from the character in Lillehammer is played pretty much the same way as the character he plays in the Sopranos. It's not a spin-off.

 

[charmer_]

I couldnt get into Game of Thrones. I have so many complaints about the show. Like..

I can't stand how there's so many dislikable characters on the show. There's noone to root for, which killed my interest in the show.

Well pretty much all of the Starks are likeable, imho. The only one that has issues from that family is Sansa...but there's more to her character. Tyrion from the Lannisters is pretty great too. Flawed, but likeable.

Also...my 2nd complaint of Game of Thrones is that many characters in the show use modern cursing words like fuck, shit, etc and this is supposed to be a medieval fantasy show.

Of course, probably the most used curse word on Game of Thrones is "cunt". I always get a laugh whenever the word is mentioned (especially when The Hound says it)...

 

[SilentBob]

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The story is based on real story of the expansion of Japanese Adults Videos during the 80s.

It cover the story of AV director Tōru Muranishi and the rise of the first JAV superstar, Kaoru Kuroki.

It include a lot of sex scenes with beautifuls japaneses standard actress and somes actuals JAV pornstars.

Very fun to watch !

 

[Numerati]

I currently watching The Naked Director on Netflix and I find its a nice serie to watch especialy if you like JAV or have a thing for asians womens.

The story is based on real story of the expansion of Japanese Adults Videos during the 80s.

It cover the story of AV director Tōru Muranishi and the rise of the first JAV superstar, Kaoru Kuroki.

It include a lot of sex scenes with beautifuls japaneses standard actress and somes actuals JAV pornstars.

Very fun to watch !

Tentacles. It needs tentacles and 3 feet cock demons. LOL.

 

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