Gaby do you really think Ducharme should be allowed to twist in the wind like that, just so the team can save money? I don't believe in lame duck coaches in sports, who have no motivation to give their best effort and all motivation to be looking for their next job. In addition, I think Gorton would rather get reports on the roster from one of his own guys, not Bergevin's guy. You can't just cut off the ears of the old regime, you need to cut off the whole head.
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MOLSON....conf. de presse today....a insisté sur un'' FRESH START''.....veut une direction à 2 têtes pour les opérations hockey soit un VP Jeff Gorton et un GM à venir...devenu très très complexe toute cette gestion.
A signé GORTON à long terme.....et veut accorder priorité au repêchage
. Veut aussi créer ---pour le marché hot de Montréal--un groupe spécial pour mieux entourer/soutenir les joueurs afin de mieux voir venir les crises...genre DROUIN et PRICE.
A aussi dit aussi avoir maintenu le dialogue avec BERGEVIN....que ce dernier comprend la situation....you bet ...l'a remercié et lui souhaite bonne chance....lol.
A signé GORTON à long terme.....et veut accorder priorité au repêchage
. Veut aussi créer ---pour le marché hot de Montréal--un groupe spécial pour mieux entourer/soutenir les joueurs afin de mieux voir venir les crises...genre DROUIN et PRICE.A aussi dit aussi avoir maintenu le dialogue avec BERGEVIN
....que ce dernier comprend la situation....you bet ...l'a remercié et lui souhaite bonne chance....lol.En clair GORTON va en mener large et IMHO le DG va essentiellement servir de translator / porte-voix vis-à-vis les médias, les fans et le coach.....lol.....mais au moins espérons que l'ère du ''COUNTRY CLUB'' -CLUB MED de Montréal tire à sa fin.
Ici on te donne le contrat que tu veux et en prime on t'écoeure pas ... tu joues comme/quand tu veux....et c'est toi qui décide quand tu veux revenir au jeu...et oh....si tu veux prendre ta retraite ----pas de problème---on va camoufler ca en blessure prolongée et tu vas
pouvoir casher ton plein salaire......URGENCE d'agir pour que les jeunes qui poussent et les futurs HABS comprennent bien que l'ère de la récréation est terminée....lol......my 2 ccents.
et IMHO le DG va essentiellement servir de translator / porte-voix vis-à-vis les médias, les fans et le coach.....lol.....mais au moins espérons que l'ère du ''COUNTRY CLUB'' -CLUB MED de Montréal tire à sa fin.Ici on te donne le contrat que tu veux et en prime on t'écoeure pas ... tu joues comme/quand tu veux....et c'est toi qui décide quand tu veux revenir au jeu...et oh....si tu veux prendre ta retraite ----pas de problème---on va camoufler ca en blessure prolongée et tu vas
pouvoir casher ton plein salaire
......URGENCE d'agir pour que les jeunes qui poussent et les futurs HABS comprennent bien que l'ère de la récréation est terminée....lol......my 2 ccents.Gaby,
What you posted above about creating a "special group" to support the players in the "hot market" of Montreal is a little concerning to me. I believe you give them a seminar on being a Hab when they join the team and explain what that means. After that, grown men should be treated like grown men and not like babies who need constant supervision. While I realize the Habs do not want a repeat of the Price/Drouin situations, it is the responsibility of the organization to acquire players who can handle the pressures of being an NHL player. I believe that if you treat players as grown men they (for the most part) will behave like grown men. When you start sending the message to the players that you do not trust them to be able to hold their weenie when they go pee pee, and instead have someone watching over them, it condescends and makes them feel like juveniles.
Montreal isn't the only city that is hard to play in sometimes for its professional athletes. Do you think it's easy for baseball players on the Yankees and Mets in New York, or for the Red Sox in Boston? In watching the Yankees for over 40 years I have seen it happen that players need to take a leave of absence because of their mental well being. Specifically I remember Butch Wynegar, a catcher in the 1980s, was actually an above average catcher but just couldn't handle the pressure of playing in NYC. He took a half season off and eventually they had to trade him but this is very rare to happen. I think the Habs are overreacting to the Price-Drouin situations.
I think most teams employ mental health professionals who are there if needed by the players. But to have watchdogs on the players strikes me as likely counterproductive. A man has to be allowed to stand on his own 2 feet; if he cannot, the team should then pay for his mental health services and leave of absence. This seems pretty simple. The key is to make sure you have players who can stand on their own 2 feet and take the heat. All of us have pressure in our jobs, the Habs are paid a whole lot more to take it. If I took a leave of absence like Price from my job, I wouldn't be allowed back. They would just hire a replacement and say bye bye. These guys have to live in the real world like the rest of us Gaby.
What you posted above about creating a "special group" to support the players in the "hot market" of Montreal is a little concerning to me. I believe you give them a seminar on being a Hab when they join the team and explain what that means. After that, grown men should be treated like grown men and not like babies who need constant supervision. While I realize the Habs do not want a repeat of the Price/Drouin situations, it is the responsibility of the organization to acquire players who can handle the pressures of being an NHL player. I believe that if you treat players as grown men they (for the most part) will behave like grown men. When you start sending the message to the players that you do not trust them to be able to hold their weenie when they go pee pee, and instead have someone watching over them, it condescends and makes them feel like juveniles.
Montreal isn't the only city that is hard to play in sometimes for its professional athletes. Do you think it's easy for baseball players on the Yankees and Mets in New York, or for the Red Sox in Boston? In watching the Yankees for over 40 years I have seen it happen that players need to take a leave of absence because of their mental well being. Specifically I remember Butch Wynegar, a catcher in the 1980s, was actually an above average catcher but just couldn't handle the pressure of playing in NYC. He took a half season off and eventually they had to trade him but this is very rare to happen. I think the Habs are overreacting to the Price-Drouin situations.
I think most teams employ mental health professionals who are there if needed by the players. But to have watchdogs on the players strikes me as likely counterproductive. A man has to be allowed to stand on his own 2 feet; if he cannot, the team should then pay for his mental health services and leave of absence. This seems pretty simple. The key is to make sure you have players who can stand on their own 2 feet and take the heat. All of us have pressure in our jobs, the Habs are paid a whole lot more to take it. If I took a leave of absence like Price from my job, I wouldn't be allowed back. They would just hire a replacement and say bye bye. These guys have to live in the real world like the rest of us Gaby.
2 équipes qui en arrachent énormément! Voyons voir laquelle sera la moins pire!En attendant there is a game tonight
I don't know if it's a real good idea to present to the players a program which gives them special supervision and attention on the theory that they are babies who need special supervision and attention. I think most players want to be treated as grown men and the very nature of this program is to condescend to the players and communicate to them that they are juveniles and the Habs are running a special juvenile delinquency program for them. Does any other NHL team do this???!!! It may be well intended but I do not think it will be well received.
hmmm I think that Molson will hope that Chicago will hire Bergevin so he can hire Julien and remove him from their payroll
Oui Bob Hartley c'est le meilleur choixIMHO.....
GM....DAMPHOUSSE ou DARCHE.
HEAD COACH.....BOB HARTLEY.
Gone..la liste est longue....PETRY--SAVARD--WIDEMAN---PAQUETTE---HOFFMAN---ARMIA--DROUIN----GALLAGHER
Qui restent.....SUZUKI----CAUFIELD---TOFFOLI--EVANS--ANDERSON--LEHKONEN--ROMANOV--CHIAROT-----.
Si Vigneault part de Philly il pourrait devenir le 3e entraîneur avec un second séjours a Montréal ...
Tu fait quoi avec Price ?
What about Logan Mailloux? Not mentioned in your post.IMHO.....
GM....DAMPHOUSSE ou DARCHE.
HEAD COACH.....BOB HARTLEY.
Gone..la liste est longue....PETRY--SAVARD--WIDEMAN---PAQUETTE---HOFFMAN---ARMIA--DROUIN----GALLAGHER
Qui restent.....SUZUKI----CAUFIELD---TOFFOLI--EVANS--ANDERSON--LEHKONEN--ROMANOV--CHIAROT-----.
hmmm he his only a prospect
still junior ... if he don't play for the Habs he would be another x bad draft pick...
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