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WOW....quel divertissement again.....honnêtement hier je n'y croyais pas vs les imposants/robustes BLUES....et de plus tiraient de l'arrière 3-1...et wow....se sont mis au bouleau et ont frappé un grand coup.....congrats....et une petite pensée pour le coach qui à ce jour
fait des miracles....lol
 

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Observe the pass on this goal from Suzuki to Caulfield. It's an excellent pass by Suzuki who spotted Caulfield rushing to the net and threaded the needle to him:
In basketball this would be called movement without the ball where a shooting guard runs off a screen and into the corner where he is open and needs to be passed to- if someone is looking for him.Moving without the ball in basketball is itself a denoted skill as some guys can run endlessly and/or run their defenders into screens.

I think in hockey Caulfield has a similar type of skill, moving without the puck and putting oneself into position to score. It's nice to have a guy like Suzuki to feed you dinner when the meal served is goals.
 

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Observe the pass on this goal from Suzuki to Caulfield. It's an excellent pass by Suzuki who spotted Caulfield rushing to the net and threaded the needle to him:
In basketball this would be called movement without the ball where a shooting guard runs off a screen and into the corner where he is open and needs to be passed to- if someone is looking for him.Moving without the ball in basketball is itself a denoted skill as some guys can run endlessly and/or run their defenders into screens.

I think in hockey Caulfield has a similar type of skill, moving without the puck and putting oneself into position to score. It's nice to have a guy like Suzuki to feed you dinner when the meal served is goals.
Yeah I guess we can called it a hockey alley-oop! That play from Suzuki was all-world and the way Caufield is able to find the free space is just unmatched, it is safe to say that they’re gonna be one of the best 1-2 punch in the league if they are not already.
 
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Yeah I guess we can called it a hockey alley-oop!
That's a good analogy, the actions involved in that play between Suzuki and Caulfield required very good coordination and visually communicating between 2 teammates. Suzuki knew exactly what Caulfield was doing and where he was going and that pass was right on the money. In basketball alley oop plays its very important for the pass to be on the money as it has to hit the players hands at the apex of his leap. Certain players who have extraordinary leaping ability like Vince Carter or Michael Jordan could collect and dunk alley oop passes that were a little off target because they can stay in the air longer, for other players the pass needs to be threaded. In this case with Suzuki he really had to thread that pass through traffic to the streaking Caulfield who was rushing the net and he put it right on his stick. It was perfect. Suzuki should have gotten 2 assists for that pass.
 

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Hey....un doublé/2 victoires en 24h avec une belle combativité.....BRAVO les boys....semble qu'on ait peut-être un VRAI 1er trio avec DACH comme ailier :) et même un bon potentiel 2ème trio avec HOFFMAN qui nous étonne....bon jeu d'ensemble...et des défenseurs
qui font le travail....de même que nos gardiens.....crédit aussi au coach :)....qui ne cesse de m'épater et qui a sa propre philosophie..''le martinisme''...lol.....et ça porte fruit....;)
 

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The Habs are looking good! Unlike the Senators which have been a large disappointment so far. A large share of the blame falls on Pierre Dorion since he failed to address the biggest problem: defence. And goaltending was always to be a big question mark. Unfortunately the coach will likely end up paying the price for the team’s lack of success.
 
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The Habs are looking good!
They look like they could be a .500/middle of the pack team for the season. Which of course means no Conor Bedard, no Matthew Wood, and no lottery pick. This means that for the Habs to get better as in elite/Stanley Cup sip-worthy, they will need to sign top free agents. That's a problem because top free agents do not wish to share half their income or more with the Quebec taxing authorities. So they sign with American teams a la Johnny Gaudreau, or force trades to them like Matt Tkachuk. So Hab fans have to be careful what they wish for. The best way to get better fast is the tanking model in which you stockpile draft picks after sucking for a number of years. When the sucking stops, so does the stockpiling of higher draft picks.
 

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They look like they could be a .500/middle of the pack team for the season. Which of course means no Conor Bedard, no Matthew Wood, and no lottery pick. This means that for the Habs to get better as in elite/Stanley Cup sip-worthy, they will need to sign top free agents. That's a problem because top free agents do not wish to share half their income or more with the Quebec taxing authorities. So they sign with American teams a la Johnny Gaudreau, or force trades to them like Matt Tkachuk. So Hab fans have to be careful what they wish for. The best way to get better fast is the tanking model in which you stockpile draft picks after sucking for a number of years. When the sucking stops, so does the stockpiling of higher draft picks.
I’d rather have a winner mindset and attitude than quote on quote tanking especially in November. I don’t really get what your asking for, do you want the coaches to tell the players to skate slower and make bad passes…
The way the Habs are playing this season is the right way, win or lose.
If they overachieve and end up making the playoffs, it’s gonna be positive experience for the young players much like Caufield/Suzuki in the Stanley Cup run.(both 15 and 13 overall pick)
If not every teams out of the playoffs have a shot at Bedard.
 
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I don’t really get what your asking for, do you want the coaches to tell the players to skate slower and make bad passes…
I am not asking for anything. I am just stating the big time REALITY of how to build a Stanley Cup winning team. History has taught these lessons over and over and over again. Either you study history and learn from it or you are doomed to repeat past lessons not learned.
 
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I am not asking for anything. I am just stating the big time REALITY of how to build a Stanley Cup winning team. History has taught these lessons over and over and over again. Either you study history and learn from it or you are doomed to repeat past lessons not learned.
I really think the management and coaches are doing a great job at building a winning franchise.
For example, the team is not missing a player like Romanov and having Kirby Dach in return at 6’4’’ 21y.o. is a very interesting gamble.
Let’s beat a disappointing Pittsburgh team on Saturday night and keep the ball rolling.
 
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I much prefer the model/DEVILS qui ont bâti une équipe solide à l'intérieur de leur propre organisation.....pour moi c'est la route qui mène au succès.
 

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The Devils haven't won a Stanley Cup since 2003. When they did win 3 Stanley Cups, in 1995, 2000 and 2003, they had a Hall of Fame goalie in Brodeur, a HOF defenseman in Scott Stevens and a number of great acquisitions by GM Lou Lamiorello. A key to the 1995 Stanley Cup champion coached by Jacques Lemaire was Claude Lemieux, who won the Conn Smythe Trophy after scoring 13 playoff goals. That year in the playoffs Brodeur had a 1.67 GAA and a .927 Save %. Was by far the best goalie in those playoffs.
 

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They look like they could be a .500/middle of the pack team for the season. Which of course means no Conor Bedard, no Matthew Wood, and no lottery pick. This means that for the Habs to get better as in elite/Stanley Cup sip-worthy, they will need to sign top free agents. That's a problem because top free agents do not wish to share half their income or more with the Quebec taxing authorities. So they sign with American teams a la Johnny Gaudreau, or force trades to them like Matt Tkachuk. So Hab fans have to be careful what they wish for. The best way to get better fast is the tanking model in which you stockpile draft picks after sucking for a number of years. When the sucking stops, so does the stockpiling of higher draft picks.
i understand what your saying but we got caufield 14th or 15th if i remember well
 
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Oilers, Sens, Sabres have been tanking for years where's their cup?
They didn’t purposely tank. They were simply bad organizations especially at the management level who made bad personnel decisions. The Oilers were a prime example of how not to run a franchise. And drafting Nail Yakupov, one of the worst first overall draft picks in NHL history, was a step back for the organization. I’d like to say they’re on their way to being a contender but they’ve still failed to address their defence issue. Same thing with goaltending. And giving all that money & especially term to players like Jack Campbell & Zack Hyman will end up hurting the organization.

Same thing with the Sens. Eugene Melnyk was a disaster as an owner. He was a meddling owner which led to bad personnel decisions & he was a major obstacle in the new arena deal. Going over his GM’s head & hiring Pierre McGuire should have been a no-no. McGuire was fired the minute Melnyk died. Now things appear to be on the way up but the team’s currently for sale with still no new arena deal. They must absolutely find a way to get the team out of Kanata & move it to downtown Ottawa. Or else i fear they’ll eventually relocate since it won’t survive by remaining in Kanata. And they’ve yet to address the goaltending & defence issues which has led to the team being one of the worse this season alhough the forwards have shown a lot of promise.

As for Buffalo similar problems. Hard to believe the Sabres owner is the same owner who owns the Bills. However the Sabres have been off to a good start this season & Don Granato is a very good coach. GM Kevin Adams is inexperienced but he’s made some good moves. But will the Sabres be able to remain competitive in this long hockey season? Only time will tell.
 
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Go Habs Go!
Another impressive and forgotten Hughes’s trade is the Kulak one, he got a 2nd/7th round pick from the Oilers, nothing against Brett but that’s pretty sick.
Him and his buddy big Jeff ended up drafting 150lbs of dynamite Lane Hutson with the 2nd round pick!
Avoir été 3-4 pouces plus grand, Hutson aurait probablement sorti Top 15 overall l’année passée.
 
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I really think the management and coaches are doing a great job at building a winning franchise.
For example, the team is not missing a player like Romanov and having Kirby Dach in return at 6’4’’ 21y.o. is a very interesting gamble.
Let’s beat a disappointing Pittsburgh team on Saturday night and keep the ball rolling.
There is no doubt that the current management and coaches have done a great job. My concern is that the team will get to a certain level in the next couple years where they are maybe one or two veteran free agent signings away from legit Cup contention, but then can't get those guys because of the taxation of income issues. I personally believe that a Tax Adjustment should be made to the NHL salary cap to in order to level the UFA/RFA playing field for Montreal and the Canadian teams (in other words, only count net salary after taxes against the cap, or allow the teams to spend over the cap in order to compensate for the income tax payments). However, I have been told that the American NHL teams will never allow that to happen and will stop Bettman from ever doing such a thing. So it will be partly for political and tax reasons that the Habs will never be able to get that "veteran missing piece who puts them over the top".

In regards to Pittsburgh tonight, Montreal and Pittsburgh have each played 14 games and Montreal has one more point:15-14. Pittsburgh is a team with an aging core of veterans who are all likely to get banged up and injured as the season progresses. Montreal, on the other hand, has the younger and fresher team. I am particularly impressed with the development of Suzuki and Caulfield. Suzuki had 61 points last year but now shows signs of being a point a game player going forward in his career. At age 23, he has hit his stride and become a top-flight NHL center and is showing that he deserved to be made captain. Dach has 12 points so far in 14 games and is only 21 years old. He gives the Habs much needed size up front and it appears to me he is blossoming into the player Chicago hoped he would be. I think Chicago gave up on him prematurely. It's very hard on these 19-21 year old kids to adapt to the NHL game. It takes some years in many cases for them to learn how to play both ways.
 
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Jake or Sammy in goal? Jake has a .907 save % in 9 games while Sammy has a.930 save % in 5 games. Both play with the same defense in front of them. Who should get the lion's share of duty going forward?
 

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Jake or Sammy in goal? Jake has a .907 save % in 9 games while Sammy has a.930 save % in 5 games. Both play with the same defense in front of them. Who should get the lion's share of duty going forward?
That stat can often be misleading as is the case here. Second-string goaltenders will often have similar or even better numbers than the team’s #1 goalie because teams will often play them when they face a weaker opponen, which is usually the case with the Habs. The #1 goalie will also not only face stronger opponents but he’ll also play more which means he’ll often get tired over the long season which usually means it’ll negatively affect his stats & increase his chances of injury.

The second-string goalie often reminds of on a young boxer with a lot of promise who’s opponents are often hand-picked early into his career. He often gets to face weaker opponents in order to pad up his numbers. In a #1 goalie’s case it’s similar to a team’s #1 pitcher who always gets to face the other team’s #1 pitcher. Were he to face instead the other team’s worse starters he’d end up winning twenty games every year.

Jake Allen is a much better goaltender than Montembault & their numbers are very misleading for the reasons i mentioned. Sabermetrics are the worse thing to happen to pro sports.
 
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