Hamas & Israel

[minutemenX]

It’s about time to definitely get rid of hamas and the Jewish illegal settlements that are a problem for peace and the creation of a viable and peaceful Palestinian state.

Now settlements. Just another reason to continue the hate propaganda. Have you seen them? These are not settlements. Many of them are cities of tens of thousands with well developed infrastructure and industries. You want to blow them up? Forget about it, they are legal under Israeli law and they about to stay. Many countries claim that the whole Israel is illegal, so what? Palestinians were given 95% of all territory they wanted, and Arafat refused. They can continue “fighting” and loose much more. This is how world borders were drawn for centuries. Nobody vacates anything voluntarily. Ask 12 million Germans expelled from lands now in Czech Republic, Poland and the former Königsberg. Germans have been living in these places for centuries and in many were the majority. Japan lost Pacific islands to Russia that were also always Japanese. And what about half of California, Texas etc. These were Mexico not too long ago with predominant Latino population. Arabs lost countless wars to Israel. Palestinians already have state. It is Jordan where 75% are the so- called Palestinians and there is plenty of space still. By the way, Arab countries expelled more local Jews than Israel Arabs but they were absorbed by Israel and not claiming any refugee status or compensation.

 

[Alegit]

Now settlements. Just another reason to continue the hate propaganda. Have you seen them? These are not settlements. Many of them are cities of tens of thousands with well developed infrastructure and industries. You want to blow them up? Forget about it, they are legal under Israeli law and they about to stay. Many countries claim that the whole Israel is illegal, so what? Palestinians were given 95% of all territory they wanted, and Arafat refused. They can continue “fighting” and loose much more. This is how world borders were drawn for centuries. Nobody vacates anything voluntarily. Ask 12 million Germans expelled from lands now in Czech Republic, Poland and the former Königsberg. Germans have been living in these places for centuries and in many were the majority. Japan lost Pacific islands to Russia that were also always Japanese. And what about half of California, Texas etc. These were Mexico not too long ago with predominant Latino population. Arabs lost countless wars to Israel. Palestinians already have state. It is Jordan where 75% are the so- called Palestinians and there is plenty of space still. By the way, Arab countries expelled more local Jews than Israel Arabs but they were absorbed by Israel and not claiming any refugee status or compensation.

Mexico, japan, czech and so lost territories NOT THEIR COUNTRY. Jews from all over the world came to Israel in 1948 after more than a thousand years they were citizens elsewhere. Funny how you talking about 75% of jordan's being palestinian. If theres a public DNA compaign over all Israel... u dont wanna know. Despite all the histrorical narrative, the wars and the propaganda from each sides, hamas and this criminal governement of netanyahu, people there have the right to live in peace without fear and without hate. Cut the bullshit and criticize what must be criticize and stop defending the indefensible

 

[minutemenX]

Mexico, japan, czech and so lost territories NOT THEIR COUNTRY. Jews from all over the world came to Israel in 1948 after more than a thousand years they were citizens elsewhere. Funny how you talking about 75% of jordan's being palestinian. If theres a public DNA compaign over all Israel... u dont wanna know. Despite all the histrorical narrative, the wars and the propaganda from each sides, hamas and this criminal governement of netanyahu, people there have the right to live in peace without fear and without hate. Cut the bullshit and criticize what must be criticize and stop defending the indefensible

 

[minutemenX]

Yes, they should live without fear where they currently are. For this they need to abandon the so called "armed resistance" and all terrorist activities, change school curriculum recognizing Israel and promoting the peaceful co-existence. They should have all local autonomy that eventually may reach the federal state status or even the separate state by showing a mutually beneficial peaceful co-existence. This is the only way. Local Israel-proper Arab population (25% of total) is given the full citizenship and is not deprived of anything. Their standard of living is well above any Arab people in the neighboring countries and is Israel average.

 

[EagerBeaver]

This is the only way. Local Israel-proper Arab population (25% of total) is given the full citizenship and is not deprived of anything. Their standard of living is well above any Arab people in the neighboring countries and is Israel average.

There are many Israeli Arabs serving in the Knesset and the IDF as well. The Israeli Arabs who serve in the IDF are all volunteers; unlike Jews, they are not conscripted. Both male and female Jews are conscripted at age 18.