Hamas & Israel

[EagerBeaver]

Read this…. Where do you stand on this specific subject ?

‘Olives are everything for us’: West Bank farmers prevented from harvesting by settler violence

About 70% of town’s olives are inaccessible without risking a potentially fatal clash with Israeli settlers

www.theguardian.com

First a lot of these areas are settled by religious zealots who do not speak for and represent the views of most Israelis.

Second your posts have overlooked a serious economic dilemma. There are over 22,000 Palestinians working in these settlements making double the salaries they would make earning a living in Palestinian enclaves. What happens to these people when you dismantle the settlements and force their layoffs? Who is going to feed their families- you? LOL!!!! Sounds to me like you want to keep the Palestinians down, rather than allow them to benefit from the local economy.

 

[snakejack]

First a lot of these areas are settled by religious zealots who do not speak for and represent the views of most Israelis.

Second your posts have overlooked a serious economic dilemma. There are over 22,000 Palestinians working in these settlements making double the salaries they would make earning a living in Palestinian enclaves. What happens to these people when you dismantle the settlements and force their layoffs? Who is going to feed their families- you? LOL!!!! Sounds to me like you want to keep the Palestinians down, rather than allow them to benefit from the local economy.

I think you are partially right when you say that a lot of the concerned areas are settled by zealots but the government ministers are vouching to expend the settlements at a very fast pace… it even surprised the Trump administration wich support greatly the Israel gvt.

Regarding the income earned by the Palestinians when they go to work in the settlements, I am sure they would much prefer to get back their land but when you are hungry, you can sell your ass…. And like you wrote, they live in enclaves built by the Israelis settlers.

And the income they get is not the same as the Israeli population earn for the same work. Otherwise the working Palestinians would have the same niveau de vie que leur voisins israéliens.

If the Palestinians don’t work for the settlers to earn at least barely enough to feed their families, who’s gonna clean the shit ? Who’s gonna work on the farms etc….

The settlers need that very vulnerable and cheap labor in order to have a better life. Dont worry, the settlers will not lay off the Palestinians because they need them as much as the Palestinians need to work.

 

[wolfie7]

First a lot of these areas are settled by religious zealots who do not speak for and represent the views of most Israelis.

The majority of Israelis support Bibi and his government’s genocidal apartheid policies. Perhaps not as violently and obviously as the settlers, and exteemists like Ben Gvirb and Smotrich. But they’re still morally corrupt and empty.

Regardless, they have sovereignty and the agency to act however they like. But American tax dollars shouldn’t be supporting that shit.

And the vaunted Israeli economy? Nothing without American subsidies and support. The US is the only major economy willing to continue to do business with these monsters.

A rogue state that should be shunned by the world. Disgusting murderers.

 

[minutemenX]

The majority of Israelis support Bibi and his government’s genocidal apartheid policies. Perhaps not as violently and obviously as the settlers, and exteemists like Ben Gvirb and Smotrich. But they’re still morally corrupt and empty.'...
A rogue state that should be shunned by the world. Disgusting murderers.

I have often wondered why the first American settlers lived behind fort walls and were in constant conflict with the peaceful native population. They should feel shame—as should their descendants—for taking Indian land. Their claim of “fighting for survival” is a weak justification, since they could have returned to their homelands. It is true that many fled religious persecution in Europe, but why should the native peoples have borne the cost of that?
The shortness of human memory and the ease with which people claim moral superiority—when it costs them nothing—remain among the great wonders of this world.

 

[EagerBeaver]

And the vaunted Israeli economy? Nothing without American subsidies and support. The US is the only major economy willing to continue to do business with these monsters.

This is lies and bullshit you read in mainstream medias. There are no subsidies and support for the Israeli tech industry. No money is needed to support it. It's self made. You also have it backwards as Israel is exporting tech to other countries:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/nearly-half-israeli-tech-startups-incorporate-abroad-survey-finds-2025-09-09/

This is the same kind of bullshit we heard after the 1967 Six Day War: "Israel won because of USA support." Pure unadulterated bullshit as the Arab countries, which attacked Israel, did so with Soviet planes and tanks, most of which were wiped out by the Israeli Air Force in the first day of the war. These kinds of antisemitic tropes have been going on for centuries. It's the same bullshit but always in different forms. The truth is that the Arab countries were the aggressors, were defeated handily in 6 days despite being armed to the teeth by the USSR, and excuses in the form of lies and bullshit had to be made for a historically humiliating defeat through which Israel seized the now disputed West Bank settlement lands. Those lands never would have been seized had Israel not been attacked.

Don't let the historical facts ever get in the way of your posts!

And as stated in the last post all of the USA and Canada taken away from Native Americans who attacked the European settlers but only to protect what was their land in the first place. Exactly as the Israelis did when they were attacked in 1948 and in 1967. So think about the absurd historical hypocrisy of your post.

 

[snakejack]

This is lies and bullshit you read in mainstream medias. There are no subsidies and support for the Israeli tech industry. No money is needed to support it. It's self made. You also have it backwards as Israel is exporting tech to other countries:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/nearly-half-israeli-tech-startups-incorporate-abroad-survey-finds-2025-09-09/

This is the same kind of bullshit we heard after the 1967 Six Day War: "Israel won because of USA support." Pure unadulterated bullshit as the Arab countries, which attacked Israel, did so with Soviet planes and tanks, most of which were wiped out by the Israeli Air Force in the first day of the war. These kinds of antisemitic tropes have been going on for centuries. It's the same bullshit but always in different forms. The truth is that the Arab countries were the aggressors, were defeated handily in 6 days despite being armed to the teeth by the USSR, and excuses in the form of lies and bullshit had to be made for a historically humiliating defeat through which Israel seized the now disputed West Bank settlement lands. Those lands never would have been seized had Israel not been attacked.

Don't let the historical facts ever get in the way of your posts!

And as stated in the last post all of the USA and Canada taken away from Native Americans who attacked the European settlers but only to protect what was their land in the first place. Exactly as the Israelis did when they were attacked in 1948 and in 1967. So think about the absurd historical hypocrisy of your post.

The Israeli tech industry is extremely heavily supported by the Israeli gvt.

I have often wondered why the first American settlers lived behind fort walls and were in constant conflict with the peaceful native population. They should feel shame—as should their descendants—for taking Indian land. Their claim of “fighting for survival” is a weak justification, since they could have returned to their homelands. It is true that many fled religious persecution in Europe, but why should the native peoples have borne the cost of that?
The shortness of human memory and the ease with which people claim moral superiority—when it costs them nothing—remain among the great wonders of this world.

i like very very much what you wrote about the settlers living behind fort walls and were in constant conflict with the peaceful people surrounding them.

It resumes very well the current situation in the occupied land.

Jewish Settlers stealing the land of the Palestinians in 2025 (and since many decades).

 

[EagerBeaver]

The Israeli tech industry is extremely heavily supported by the Israeli gvt.

Why wouldn't they when they are getting tremendous tax revenues from it? This is like saying federally recognized Native American tribes heavily support legalized sports betting.

 

[minutemenX]

The Israeli tech industry is extremely heavily supported by the Israeli gvt.

i like very very much what you wrote about the settlers living behind fort walls and were in constant conflict with the peaceful people surrounding them.

It resumes very well the current situation in the occupied land.

Jewish Settlers stealing the land of the Palestinians in 2025 (and since many decades).

You obviously have never heard of irony. Are you native? If not, you are technically an occupier As for the Israeli tech industry subsidized by the government, it is the other way around. Due to the mighty Tech Israel has become rich country with an average income higher than in Canada

 

[wolfie7]

Ooooh, hit the nerve of some AIPAC sympathizers. Smh.

 

[CaptRenault]

So maybe it wasn't such a great idea to launch a huge terrorist attack on Israel.

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[wolfie7]

So maybe it wasn't such a great idea to launch a huge terrorist attack on Israel.

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Lmao. Ooooh, so impressive against an “enemy” with no standing army, and with the aid of advanced American weaponry, to flatten a landscape and destroy the lives of thousands of civilians, including babies and women, who have nothing to do with Oct. 7th.

Funny how nobody digs further into why a nation the size of New Jersey and a fighting force that is supposedly one of most well trained and sophisticated and experienced in the world couldn’t muster a response for hours. Hours.

And funny how nobody in western media mentions the Hannibal Directive.

Smacks of Israeli conspiracy to create an excuse to expand their warmongering.

 

[wolfie7]

So maybe it wasn't such a great idea to launch a huge terrorist attack on Israel.

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Ooooh, oooh, also… Do this again for Israel on Iran. Smh.

 

[snakejack]

Ooooh, oooh, also… Do this again for Israel on Iran. Smh.

Without US support ?

 

[snakejack]

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Are you trying to elude the main cause of all this?

Illegal settlements supported by a right wing extremist group in the government ?

And by the way, you know they come from es USSR ? Their mothers are from USSR and migrated in the 70’s / 80’s to Israel ? They don’t have a history in Palestine…

 

[snakejack]

You obviously have never heard of irony. Are you native? If not, you are technically an occupier As for the Israeli tech industry subsidized by the government, it is the other way around. Due to the mighty Tech Israel has become rich country with an average income higher than in Canada

You agree with me that the settlers are occupiers on Palestinian land ! You are heading in the right direction !

 

[snakejack]

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Ilegal settlements is terrorism.

 

[minutemenX]

You agree with me that the settlers are occupiers on Palestinian land ! You are heading in the right direction !

Sure, there is also no Canada. It is all Indian land. Arabs are also not native they came from Arabia after Jews already lived there for 2000 years and so on...

 

[fin]

Are you trying to elude the main cause of all this?

Illegal settlements supported by a right wing extremist group in the government ?

And by the way, you know they come from es USSR ? Their mothers are from USSR and migrated in the 70’s / 80’s to Israel ? They don’t have a history in Palestine…

Some comes from Poland like Bibi.

 

[snakejack]

Sure, there is also no Canada. It is all Indian land. Arabs are also not native they came from Arabia after Jews already lived there for 2000 years and so on...

Jews quit … qui va à la chasse perd sa place.

Palestinian were also living there 2000 + years ago and they were not Muslim. It’s also their land and they have a right to it.

This is why Canada, France, UK, Norway, Germany, Italy and so on are now recognizing the state of Palestine.

And by the way, like many of us I have native blood … my grand mother used to live in kanawake just saying. And I don’t feel at all ashamed about it and I am a very very proud Canadian citizen having served my country for 20 years in the Canadian armed forces.

unlike you, I do not base my identity on religion.

Are you a Canadian citizen or a Jewish guy living in Canada ?

 

[EagerBeaver]

unlike you, I do not base my identity on religion.

For most Jews, religion has nothing to do with it as opposed to cultural and ethnic traditions. Do not mistake the beliefs of the minority of reilgious zealots for the entire nation.

The Jews did occupy these lands as the nation of Israel (or what we now know as such) for 2,000 plus years until the Diaspora. They did not "quit". Stop insulting Jews and read some history because your posts seem incredibly ignorant on this subject.