Hobbyist Bachelors

[naughtylady]

I know many of you resent child support. My parents divorced when I was 9. Imagine what your kid thinks and feels when dad is living high on the horse and mom (whom you live with) struggles to get buy, and it is always an issue asking dad for money.

In my case, mom worked to while dad finished his university. After he graduated, he did not want her to work, but to stay at home with the kids; which was the plan all along. After the divorce he was clearly in a much better position financially and would increase his earning potential exponentially over the years compared to her for this reason.

Don't forget the kids will always know you as dad...

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[Doggyluver]

Funny thought. I started really while married but in search of something I wasn't getting at home, SEX ! My wife was never really into it and hey, needs, needs, needs,. I really started with strip clubs and in the beginning it was time spent watching the girls on stage, remember those days.... I live north of laval so naturally I went to the clubs in laval, one day a dancer told me she felt like a pig, took me in the corner (no booths) and allowed me to perform DATY and she gve me a HJ while using her body to block the view of others. Well as they say the rest is history. While in another city I accidently ran into a student in a bar who was actually a hooker (paying for her expensive U.S. tuition) . We had the "I have never paid for it and never will!" discussion and I realized with my wife and the number of times I was getting laid, IT was costing me a fortune. She cost me $100. U.S. and it was the best hour and a half of my life. She did things to me and for me no one had ever done before, I was now hooked as a hobbiest. Since then, strip clubs, MP's,and SP's and I would never remarry. I don't need the complications nor the company. I get what I need, when I need it and really as much as I really like some of the girls, it is a business transaction, for them and for me.

 

[naughtylady]

Many of the gents I meet feel the same. In fact they prefer SPs to a mistress or GF bcuz it is so much less complicated.

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[picaron]

As they say, why buy the cow when you get the milk for free...

I disagree, and i've already been through one divorce, even though im one of the youngest on this board. I wanna buy the cow, farm and all.... nothing beats sex with someone you love and respect... you reach a comfort level never attainable with a regular fling or sp or what have you. Its so much more deeper then just sex.

I cant wait to find the next girl in my life, until then, the odd sp here and there fill the gaps, in between flings here and there

 

[Lee STONE]

Many of the gents I meet feel the same. In fact they prefer SPs to a mistress or GF bcuz it is so much less complicated.

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

Ronnie..

How right you are...one thing that I dont need in my life right now is a mistress...when I can have all the beautiful ladies I want without all that emotional baggage and hassel that does come with a Mistress

Thanks for being there for us Ronnie and all you beautiful ladies out there..you are all appreciated by all of us middle age married guys...

Lee STONE

 

[EagerBeaver]

Ronnie..

Thanks for being there for us Ronnie and all you beautiful ladies out there..you are all appreciated by all of us middle age married guys...

Lee STONE

And even more appreciated by us 40ish bachelors.............who do not have the benefit of a live in female companion, sexually proficient or not.......

 

[B1G]

Essence of life

I agree with all here who say it's alot simpler and less costly to partake in the hobby then to desperately try finding the RIGHT women. The RIGHT women, it's almost impossible. There will always be conssesions to make. My only problem with this kind of life is kids..... It scares to to realize that if I go on with this type of life style I'll probably spend my old age alone. Imagine at 65 christmas eve, ALONE..... In my case I don't even have brothers or sisters, I have friends, but will they still be there when I'm old ?

No, sorry guys but even thought it seems logical, simpler, more efficient it will never be as fulfilling as a REAL relationship. Even with all the conssesions, fights divorce...... to have children of your own, it's the essence of life !

 

[naughtylady]

B1G>> it is sad but true: having children is no guarantee that you wont be alone when you are old. Go to any retirement home and ask around...

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[B1G]

Don't get me wrong Regnad, I don't mean, have children no matter what, but I mean if I continue this life style, I'm almost sure I'll never have any. When ever I have time to go out, which is not often, I'm SOO in need of sex that I always opt for a session with an SP. Now how I'm I ever going to meet the right woman this way?

I agree with you naughtylady, and in a way you just made me feel a little bit better. I imagine having children that don't come to see you in a retirement home must be worst then not having any children to come and see you. This way you don't miss them and wonder when youll get to see them.

 

[Jim2005]

Having Children

Don't get me wrong Regnad, I don't mean, have children no matter what, but I mean if I continue this life style, I'm almost sure I'll never have any. When ever I have time to go out, which is not often, I'm SOO in need of sex that I always opt for a session with an SP. Now how I'm I ever going to meet the right woman this way?

I agree with you naughtylady, and in a way you just made me feel a little bit better. I imagine having children that don't come to see you in a retirement home must be worst then not having any children to come and see you. This way you don't miss them and wonder when youll get to see them.

When I was going through my separation/divorce, I decided to take a parenting skills class. What struck me was how tremendously devoted these men and women were to their children. You could see the pain and anguish in the faces of some who related that they could only visit their child/children once every 3 or 4 weeks, in some cases commuting long distances out-of-area. That entails a lot of sacrifice, reliability, and devotion, which a child never forgets. Now sometimes kids can act aloof or distant over the phone. But they have a keen knack for schedules and routines. So if Dad is visiting next weekend, your kid probably has a lot of activities planned out. I've witnessed a couple of men who emotionally abandoned their kids after a bitter divorce. These men grudgingly paid child support but had no interest whatsoever in seeing their kids on a routine basis, if at all. Such a shame. It's as if they wrote off everyone associated with the failed marriage, their kids included. And I guess their mindset was to play the dating game, start anew, and put most of their proverbial eggs in that basket.

I consider the divorce process, which can have repercussions for years, to be a huge test of character. It's also eye-opening what people will say to you. One married guy told me, while I was separated, that he envied me because I was now in a position where I could date lots of women and get laid. Yet there is a grieving process that comes with the turf and guys aren't programmed to publicly spill their guts about what's going on inside them during a marital breakup. One attorney told me that he gets a surprisingly high amount of follow-on business when his ex-clients go out and buy a fancy car or some highly-visible show of wealth. Such actions can trigger a lawsuit from the ex (usually the ex-wife) seeking more child support. Then there is the matter of visitation and custody. Such issues can be VERY turbulent topics for many years. You just hope that there will be avenues for you and your ex to cooperate and put aside your personal differences for the betterment of your children's happiness and welfare. I agree fully with regnad that children help make life fulfilling, in so many words, and his recitation of his kids' accomplishment is ample evidence of that.

There's a lot to be said for risking. I greatly agree with Train's thesis, in so many words, that it is better to have risked in love than never have risked. I will say that the dating jungle can be tough out there. Some gals who have never married or never had kids are not keen at all on dating single dads. As Eager Beaver also noted, there are some gals who are perhaps looking for a guy who has all the right tickets punched, without necessarily wanting to go slow and get to know and like the guy first. There are some great gals out there, but "connecting" is very challenging in this day and age. The late actor John Barrymore (actress Drew's grandfather) had some unique comments about marriage and divorce. Do a Google search. He said , in so many words, that sometimes being alone "can be a great relief". Alcoholism and significant financial/emotional stress from his multiple divorces played a major role in his death at age 60.

Cheers,
Jim

 

[Gee]

I know many of you resent child support. My parents divorced when I was 9. Imagine what your kid thinks and feels when dad is living high on the horse and mom (whom you live with) struggles to get buy, and it is always an issue asking dad for money.

That's all fine and dandy but in this day and age, that's not always the case.

Women rarely have to pay child support, even when the father is allowed to keep the child.

My brother for instance has two children with different mothers, he pays alimony to both mothers yet barely makes any money.

All the while his first fiance is able to afford trips all over the place(this month she's going to Orlando and Vegas), a large house, nice cars and anything else she wants but as soon as my nephew needs clothes, school supplies or becomes interested in learning something new it's my brother and my parents that open their wallets.

The second is pretty much the same, no trips or anything but house, car and all that.

It gets to the point where I have to step in and secretly give my parents some money to help him out with the kids.

I find this entire thread incredibly sad. Is there really no interest among any of you single guys in a meaningful intimate relationship with a life partner? Are women no more than receptacles for your semen? Is a man's connection to a woman simply about getting laid? Do you really believe that women seeking a long term committed relationship are only after your wealth?

Let me add that this is neither flame, nor condemnation, nor judgment, just my sense that some here have given up on something in life that can be rich and rewarding.

I'm about 10 years younger than my brother is and as much as I'd prefer having a long term relationship, because there is so much more you can experience with a girlfriend that you cannot with an SP.

Seeing what my brother has to put through because of relationships scares me witless.

Sure, women interested in long term relationships are not after wealth, but finding those women who are interested in relationships can get complicated.

Add to that the fact that more and more break-up's of long and short term relationships out there are becoming the "I hate you and hope you die/I'll make you pay" kind and it becomes even scarier to invest yourself in what could potentially become a really bad situation.

Then factor in the new generations and how they are getting raised and things get even more terrifying. I know most of your are in the mid 30's/early 40's so this may not apply when looking for relationships but I'm in my mid 20's so my dating pool is a bit lower in age than yours might be. (Then again some oldies like the younger girls.)



Sorry about deleting and reposting, just went through a major edit and figured I should delete it before too many people read the first draft.

 

[naughtylady]

Gee>> you raise some very good points. I guess what is important is not to forget about the children and what is best for them in what can be a very ugly situation.

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[EagerBeaver]

Master Card Wedding & Then Bachelorhood Again!!!!!!!!!!!!

You gotta love this guy.....This is a true story about a recent wedding that took place at Clemson University. It was in the local newspaper and even Jay Leno mentioned it. It was a huge wedding with about 300 guests. After the wedding at the reception, the groom got up on stage with a microphone to talk to the crowd. He said he wanted to thank everyone for coming, many from long distances, to support them at their wedding. He specially wanted to thank the bride's and his family and to thank his new father-in-law for providing such a lavish reception.

As a token of his deep appreciation he said he wanted to give everyone a special gift just from him. So taped to the bottom of everyone's chair, including the wedding party, was a manila envelope. He said this was his gift to everyone, and asked them to open their envelope. Inside each manila envelope was an 8x10 glossy of his bride having sex with the best man. The groom had gotten suspicious of them weeks earlier and had hired a private detective to tail them. After just standing there, just watching the guests' reactions for a couple of minutes, he turned to the best man and said, "F--- you!". Then he turned to his bride and said, "F--- you!". Then he turned to the dumbfoundedcrowd and said, "I'm outta here.

He had the marriage annulled first thing in the morning. While most people would have canceled the wedding immediately after finding out about the affair, this guy goes through with the charade, as if nothing were wrong. His revenge... making the bride's parents pay over $32,000 for a 300 guest wedding and reception, and best of all, trashing the bride's and best man's reputations in front of 300 friends and family members. This guy has balls the size of church bells. Do you think we might get a MasterCard "priceless" commercial out of this?

Elegant wedding reception for 300 family members and friends................................................................$ 32,000.

Wedding photographs commemorating the occasion................................................................ ................$3,000.

Deluxe two week honeymoon accommodations in Maui.................................................................... .........$8,500.

The look on everyone's face when they see the 8x10 glossy of the bride humping the best man....................Priceless.

There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's MASTER CARD.